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DoubleLine Capital Founder Jeffrey Gundlach Warns America’s “Unfunded Liabilities” Are $163 Trillion, More Than 5x National Debt
Trade For Profit ^ | 05/06/2021 | Tyler Durden

Posted on 05/06/2021 8:23:19 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

DoubleLine's Jeffrey Gundlach called the Fed's bluff late last month, telling investors during an interview that he suspected the central bank was merely "guessing" about the impact of inflation being "transitory".

Since then, we have only received more signs that inflationary pressures are growing in the US economy, while a growing number of investors have been persuaded to agree with Gundlach.

The other day, DoubleLine released a recording of another talk given by Gundlach where he elaborated on the inflation theme, while also discussing other issues like the outlook for the US dollar in the face of President Biden's tax-and-spend agenda.

During the course of an hour-plus conversation, much of it accompanied by a slide deck with some of Gundlach's favorite charts, Gundlach tackled a few key topics that he feels could threaten the Fed's ability to backstop financial markets.

He started by slamming Biden's plan to hike capital gains taxes on taxpayers with more than $1 million in earnings, arguing that fears of higher capital gains taxes is already weighing in the market.

Gundlach argued that high-beta stocks and other speculative investments like bitcoin have the most to lose due to a hike in capital gains. After all, who is going to want to take a risk on a long shot if they need to give half of their winnings to the government?

"Today is an important day because the president has made good if you want to call it that on his promise to begin raising taxes and the capital gains tax if you make more than a million dollars a year in California the capital gains tax if the proposal goes through that was launched today will be 57 capital gains tax that's the federal tax plus the California tax so it's getting pretty ugly and i think it's going to have some very significant effects which we started to see the minute that this tax proposal was was launched today we've seen bitcoin a very speculative darling investment these days go down about 20 from its high in the last couple of weeks and obviously a lot of people would think twice about speculating on something like bitcoin if they felt that if they won meaning the price went up from their cost that 57 percent of a highly speculative gamble if it hits if it hits would go to the federal government but the stock market also fell pretty sharply upon that no wonder it's surprising that people haven't been contemplating this already."

He then launched into his criticism of the federal government's embrace of an MMT-like monetary policy fusing fiscal spending and monetary stimulus to try and paper over the economic damage caused by COVID-19.

Between the stimulus checks, which were supposed to be temporary, and all the expansions of unemployment and other benefits, the percent of personal income comprised of government payments soared, something we also saw in recent spending data when we observed that 34% of household spending last month came from the government.

"A lot of weird things happened once the pandemic hit....it was a steady march to dependency on the government by a larger and larger fraction of the US population went absolutely vertical what this chart represents is what percent of personal income which is a government statistic what percentage of government of of personal income is made up of government giveaways which we call transfer payments back in the 60s it was down near five percent."

The trillions in Congressionally-approved payments caused the deficit, already blown out under President Trump, to widen further.

While the Fed's balance sheet exploded as the central bank monetized much of the new debt.

Gundlach also pointed out that the surge in the debt doesn't fully capture how much money the federal government owes. There are also unfunded liabilities which, when combined with all local, state and federal debt, leave US citizens on the hook for $163 trillion. That's more than 5x the $28 trillion national debt

"The government giveaway programs and the programs that we put in place to battle the economic impact especially to people who were suddenly unemployed and there were about 20 20 uh 20 million people that were suddenly unemployed those stimulus packages were originally thought to be temporary but now they've become a fixture and we can see that the blue line in recent months has needed uh as has grown again as a requirement in funding these non-stop stimulus programs so the US government is now has over 28 trillion dollars in debt and the US government has $163 trillion in unfunded liabilities when you roll it all together federal state uh and local level that amount of unfunded liabilities is 775% of our current total economic output," Gundlach said.

If we wanted to pay that off, Gundlach observed, it would have to put 10% of our economy, and have negative economic growth, for 77 and a half years. In other words, there's no feasible way the US will be able to pay off its debt. Instead, the US has no choice but to continuously refinance.

Moving ahead, Gundlach of course touched on one of the most important topics in contemporary markets: inflation. Earlier on Thursday, the Dallas Fed chief Robert Kaplan came out and said he wants the Fed to talk about tapering its asset buys sooner rather than later, saying the economy has improved faster than expected, and citing worries about "excesses and imbalances" in the market, a reference to frothy prices in everything from equities to housing.

Gundlach cited the Fed's failures to anticipate the collapse of the subprime mortgage market as one reason to be skeptical of Fed Chairman Jerome Powell's rhetoric about rising inflation being "transitory".

"It's quite likely that we're going to see this inflation rate going up now the Federal Reserve has been transparent saying that they're not worried about it they think an inflation increase would be transitory. How do they know that? How do they know that the inflation rate going up is just going to be transitory? I'm reminded of the subprime banking crisis that started in 2006 really 2007. It started and Ben Bernanke was the chairman of the Federal Reserve and Ben Bernanke said don't worry about the subprime loan problem that we have subprime is contained well housing prices fell all over the country by an average of 35 percent so it wasn't contained so since the federal reserve did not have the crystal ball accurate about subprime being contained I'm not going to accept that their crystal ball is any clearer on this inflation up move being transitory. We'll see um it is true that we will probably have higher inflation in the middle of 2021 than at the end of 2021 because it does have some input things I'm not going to get into it it's fairly esoteric but the inflation trend seems to have reversed a lot of trends."

Readers can watch the full presentation below:

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: debt; gundlach; liabilities; spending

1 posted on 05/06/2021 8:23:19 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

I’ve heard it is actually up to $6 quadrillions dollars when you include all the debt that is wrapped up as part of investments.


2 posted on 05/06/2021 8:24:26 PM PDT by Jonty30 (Just because I coughed on you does not mean that I have covid. It means that we have covid. )
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To: SeekAndFind
America's enemies are in the White House and Kongress and are determined to bring us to economic ruin.

Thanks to RAT voters and tech and social media outlets for this.

3 posted on 05/06/2021 8:27:02 PM PDT by LouAvul (Lying headlines from fake news articles written by pimps masquerading as journalists.)
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To: SeekAndFind

That’s OK.

By the end of Bidet’s first term a loaf of bread will cost $183,000,000,000,000 and the national debt will be inflated out of existence.


4 posted on 05/06/2021 8:28:29 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Anti-racism looks suspiciously like racism.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Pelosi and Biden don’t care because they will likely be dead before the real destruction begins. They are already half-dead.

The country is so big that it can absorb this level of stupidity for a while.

When the real destruction happens the younger gen liberals will blame conservatives and the rich and the MSM will cover for them.


5 posted on 05/06/2021 8:42:38 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: SeekAndFind

Yeah, I looked at Unfunded Liabilities at debt clock a few weeks ago.

Hadn’t noticed the jump (for awhile) but there it was.


6 posted on 05/06/2021 8:47:10 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: SaveFerris

Thanks. I haven’t looked at that debt clock in a while. I always wondered about it. Being from the CIA they can make it look like whatever serves their agenda. Dunno for sure though.


7 posted on 05/06/2021 9:05:49 PM PDT by PGalt (Past Peak Civilization?)
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To: SaveFerris

When TCMDO reaches above 360% of GDP, an economy almost always goes into unmanaged economic collapse. Take a look at the PIIGS (Portugal, Italy, Ireland, Greece, and Spain): their economies tanked in record time in 2007-2008 due to their debt load.

With Bite Me and crew trying to stiffle business and sucking more money out of the economy through higher taxes, it will have a cascade effect. You can only reduce the velocity of money so much before inflation (hidden or otherwise) sets in. It is intentional, this destruction of wealth.

Hang on to your wallets, folks. It is going to be a bumpy ride.


8 posted on 05/06/2021 9:49:32 PM PDT by TheWriterTX (Trust not in earthly princes....)
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To: PGalt

Had no idea it was theirs. Learn something new every day.

Guess I didn’t look that close. Was always too astounded at the numbers.


9 posted on 05/06/2021 9:57:13 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: TheWriterTX

It’s like wafting for the Weimar Republic to manifest.


10 posted on 05/06/2021 9:59:00 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: SeekAndFind

House of cards is the fiscal USA. A measly $1 Trillion will collapse it soon. After financial collapse, the society implodes. Of course this is all by design.


11 posted on 05/06/2021 10:16:21 PM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: LouAvul

To be principled.. these m9nthly checks started unde4 Trump. They will be excused away, not learned from. Of course his checks funded what we like.. its a little hypocritical to call out the dems for something we started.


12 posted on 05/07/2021 2:08:50 AM PDT by momincombatboots (Ephesians 6... who you are really at war with)
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To: momincombatboots
yeah, cause the Trump checks are the root cause of RAT socialism.

Grow up.

13 posted on 05/07/2021 5:31:58 AM PDT by LouAvul (Lying headlines from fake news articles written by pimps masquerading as journalists.)
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To: SeekAndFind

CLOVEN PIVEN is being followed to a tee by the leftists running things.


14 posted on 05/07/2021 5:58:08 AM PDT by BiglyCommentary
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To: metmom; Diana in Wisconsin; greeneyes; Jane Long

Ping


15 posted on 05/07/2021 8:36:12 AM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt
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To: BiglyCommentary

CLOVEN Piven.....first time I’ve seen it (Cloward-Piven) called that...very apt, in that they are certainly trying to divide/split us all apart.


16 posted on 05/07/2021 8:49:01 AM PDT by Jane Long (America, Bless God....blessed be the Nation 🙏🏻🇺🇸)
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s quite likely that we’re seeing this inflation
rate going up

fixed


17 posted on 05/07/2021 9:18:31 AM PDT by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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To: SeekAndFind; All

As an Added Bonus, Unemployment in the USA ticked up to 6.1% today!

Yay! Happy Days ARE Here Again! *SPIT*


18 posted on 05/07/2021 9:28:56 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: SeekAndFind

One has to be able to determine is projected GDP cash flow and projected growth will cover it...or not

Or borrow more

It’s ok to run deficits up to a point ....we are way past that point


19 posted on 05/07/2021 9:31:22 AM PDT by wardaddy (Let me guess FREEPERS are now salivating over Tim Scott.....so predictable just like talk radio weak)
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To: Jane Long

As in the Devil cloved feet lol


20 posted on 05/07/2021 9:40:06 AM PDT by BiglyCommentary
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