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Article V Caucus Special Bulletin
State Legislators Article V Caucus ^ | April 26th 2021 | Stuart MacPhail

Posted on 04/26/2021 2:42:48 PM PDT by Jacquerie

Attention state legislators:

The South Carolina legislature is considering SCR141, a resolution calling for a convention of states to discuss, debate, and decide on proposing a constitutional amendment to require the federal government to adhere to defined fiscal responsibilities.

A number of respected Article V scholars believe that if this resolution is adopted, it will constitute the 34th such application and the U.S. Congress shall be obligated to call for a convention of states where the merits of such a proposed amendment can be determined.

Senator Rex Rice is proposing an amendment to SCR141 that would name the other 33 specific states that South Carolina’s application, of which this application is intended to aggregate. It would also request that the U.S. Congress, within 60 days, designate the date and location for a convention, “in fulfillment of its ministerial duty under Article V of the United States Constitution.”

You can help gain this historic 34th application by contacting one or more of the South Carolina Senators or House Members and let them know that you support their effort.

Read SCR141: https://legiscan.com/SC/text/S0141/id/2220611 We invite you to offer your comments to the South Carolina Legislature directly:

https://legiscan.com/SC/drafts/S0141/2021

We, the Steering Committee for the State Legislators’ Article V Caucus strongly support the South Carolina resolution, and ask you to show your support too.

U.S. Representative Yvette Herrell, New Mexico 575-430-2113 * yherrell@yahoo.com

State Senator Kelly Townsend, Arizona 480-332-6290 * kellyjtownsend@yahoo.com

Speaker of the House Kim Koppelman, North Dakota 701-492-7317 * kkoppelman@nd.gov

Former State Representative Ken Ivory, Utah 801-694-8380 * voteivory@gmail.com

Former State Senator Kevin Lundberg, Colorado 970-690-0232 * senatorlundberg@gmail.com

Former State Senator Neal Schuerer, Iowa 319-551-3231 nschuerer@outlook.com

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: articlev; conventionofstates; statelegislators
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Imagine. Forcing Congress to do its duty and call an Article V Convention.
1 posted on 04/26/2021 2:42:48 PM PDT by Jacquerie
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To: 5thGenTexan; 1010RD; AllAmericanGirl44; Amagi; aragorn; Art in Idaho; Arthur McGowan; ...

Article V ping!


2 posted on 04/26/2021 2:43:38 PM PDT by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: Jacquerie

A number of respected Article V scholars believe that if this resolution is adopted, it will constitute the 34th such application and the U.S. Congress shall be obligated to call for a convention of states where the merits of such a proposed amendment can be determined.


And thereupon USA officially adopted socialism and woke culture as the new laws of the land


3 posted on 04/26/2021 2:45:02 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Jacquerie

Thanks for the ping.
Let’s roll!


4 posted on 04/26/2021 2:47:05 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (Get out of the matrix and get a real life.)
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To: PIF

Go hide under your bed.


5 posted on 04/26/2021 2:48:36 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (Get out of the matrix and get a real life.)
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To: Jacquerie
Join the Article V State Legislators Article V Caucus.

From the homepage:

As State Legislators, we have a solemn obligation to defend the rights of the people and protect the sovereign authority of our states, but the powers in Washington D.C. have made that almost impossible. Decades of out of control spending and a slow erosion of the balance of power between the states and the Federal government have all but destroyed the constitutional federalism that our founding fathers established.

The drafters of our Constitution knew this could happen and so they gave us the tools to keep the genius of Federalism functioning, but we have to use those tools.

The stronger we are, the sooner we can take the credit cards away from Washington and put our nation back on track.

Join the caucus today!

6 posted on 04/26/2021 2:48:39 PM PDT by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: Jacquerie
By my count, if South Carolina passes this application, the count for a balanced budget amendment will be 31, not 34.

The last time the count of applications for a balanced budget amendment reached 34, Speaker Boehner sent House legal counsel to audit the applications with the Archivist of the United States. Some 8 applications were tossed out because later state legislatures had retroceded the applications, which lowered the count to 26. Since then, 4 mote state legislatures applied, which brings the current count to 30.

7 posted on 04/26/2021 2:54:08 PM PDT by Publius
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To: Repeal The 17th; PIF

Obiden will ban the internal combustion engine, give tens of millions of illegal aliens the vote, censor conservative voices, make weather the national god, make the white race subservient to all others, instruct kids to hate their country, overtake local zoning, legalize their electoral theft of 2020 . . . and a few Freepers pee in their panties over the Framers’ provision for an Article V COS.


8 posted on 04/26/2021 2:55:37 PM PDT by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: Jacquerie

South Carolina would be the 16th state for the Convention of States already written up and agreed to. Where are these 18 other states ? The balanced budget resolution?


9 posted on 04/26/2021 3:00:26 PM PDT by Nateman (Keep Liberty Alive! Article V!)
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To: Nateman

Yes, the BBA. That is what I understand. The somehow self-imposed requirement of identical or similar applications is silly, but that is what others in the movement believe.


10 posted on 04/26/2021 3:06:10 PM PDT by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: Jacquerie

So would this just be a balanced budget amendment, or if a convention is called can other amendments be moved?


11 posted on 04/26/2021 3:10:42 PM PDT by Renfrew
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To: Nateman

You’re referring to Georgia’s application language for rebalancing federal and state powers, not the balanced budget amendment application language, which is much older.


12 posted on 04/26/2021 3:11:16 PM PDT by Publius
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To: Jacquerie

BEWARE ARTICLE V. It will only be convened when the PTB know they can replace our historical Constitution with something the globalists approve of.


13 posted on 04/26/2021 3:14:59 PM PDT by Chad C. Mulligan (Deplorably Neanderthal)
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To: Chad C. Mulligan

https://www.renewamerica.com/columns/huldah/210422

Read the whole thing.


14 posted on 04/26/2021 3:16:35 PM PDT by Chad C. Mulligan (Deplorably Neanderthal)
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To: Chad C. Mulligan
This is the usual pedantic boilerplate that I append to these threads for those who don't understand how the Article V process works.

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The amendatory process under Article V consists of three steps: Proposal, Disposal, and Ratification.

Proposal:

There are two ways to propose an amendment to the Constitution.

Article V gives Congress and an Amendments Convention exactly the same power to propose amendments, no more and no less.

Disposal:

Once Congress, or an Amendments Convention, proposes amendments, Congress must decide whether the states will ratify by the:

The State Ratifying Convention Method has only been used twice: once to ratify the Constitution, and once to ratify the 21st Amendment repealing Prohibition.

Ratification:

Depending upon which ratification method is chosen by Congress, either the state legislatures vote up-or-down on the proposed amendment, or the voters elect a state ratifying convention to vote up-or-down. If three fourths of the states vote to ratify, the amendment becomes part of the Constitution.

Forbidden Subjects:

Article V contains two explicitly forbidden subjects and one implicitly forbidden subject.

Explicitly forbidden:

Implicitly forbidden:

Reference works:

Proposing Constitutional Amendments by a Convention of the States: A Handbook for State Lawmakers

State Initiation of Constitutional Amendments: A Guide for Lawyers and Legislative Drafters

15 posted on 04/26/2021 3:16:39 PM PDT by Publius
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To: Renfrew

The limits on a COS are those placed on the delegates by their state legislatures.

I honestly don’t expect the first COS to accomplish anything other than prove it didn’t “runaway,” and thus cancel a major objection from the JBS types.


16 posted on 04/26/2021 3:18:33 PM PDT by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: Jacquerie

Thanks. I feel a balanced budget amendment is pretty low on the list of issues we need to fix. It was important 20 years ago, but so many other things have gone wrong since then.


17 posted on 04/26/2021 3:21:52 PM PDT by Renfrew
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To: Chad C. Mulligan
Thanks for bringing up Huldah.

I wrote a seven-part series on her. Here is the Introduction:

Publius Huldah vs. Article V: Introduction.

18 posted on 04/26/2021 3:23:37 PM PDT by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: Jacquerie; All
If I understand SCR141 correctly, please consider the following.

Not only do the 16th and ill-conceived 17th Amendments need to be repealed in any new amendment, but it would be great if the amendment ultimately resulted with the Supreme Court’s clarification of Congress’s limited power to appropriate taxes effectively being amended to the Constitution.

"Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States." —Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.

The new amendment should also have the following provision. Although this is easier said than done, provision should require anybody thinking of running as a candidate for federal lawmaker to not only first serve as state lawmaker to get familiar with state revenue management, but also to win reelection to state office before being allowed to serve in federal government.

After all, if a state’s voters don’t like the job a person does as state lawmaker, then why should incumbent go to federal government and screw up things there too, especially with respect to the federal government’s very limited powers?

19 posted on 04/26/2021 3:37:50 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: Renfrew

Yes, the BBA has been somewhat overcome by other, more pressing events.


20 posted on 04/26/2021 3:37:52 PM PDT by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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