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Supreme Court to take up major Second Amendment concealed handgun case
NBC ^ | 04/26/2021 | Pete Williams

Posted on 04/26/2021 10:32:07 AM PDT by thegagline

The U.S. Supreme Court said Monday it will consider how much protection the Second Amendment provides for carrying a gun outside the home. The case will mark the first time in more than a decade that the court agreed to take up a central issue of the gun rights debate, something it has consistently ducked since issuing a landmark ruling in District of Columbia v. Heller in 2008 that the Second Amendment provides an individual right to keep a handgun at home for self defense. The court agreed to hear a challenge to a New York state law that allows residents to carry a concealed handgun only if they can demonstrate a special need beyond a general desire for self protection. The law "makes it virtually impossible for the ordinary law-abiding citizen" to get the necessary license, said Paul Clement, a lawyer representing the challengers. One of them, Robert Nash, said he was wanted to carry a gun in response to a string of robberies in his neighborhood. Another, Brendan Koch, also cited a desire to carry a gun for protection. Both men said they had completed gun safety courses, but both were turned down when they applied for permits. They joined a lawsuit challenging the law brought by the New York State Rifle and Pistol Association. New York bans carrying a handgun openly. The state law says anyone seeking a license to carry a concealed weapon must demonstrate "a special need for self protection distinguishable from that of the general community or of persons engaged in the same profession." The law is so restrictive, Clement said, that it cannot be reconciled with the Supreme Court's "affirmation of the individual right to possess and carry weapons in case of confrontation.”

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; amendment; banglist; concealedcarry; court; scotus; second; supreme
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To: thegagline

21 posted on 04/26/2021 11:12:10 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true, I have no proof, but they're true !)
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To: rockabyebaby
Buried at the end of the article.

But the addition of Amy Coney Barrett, providing a solid 6-3 majority, likely gave them confidence to take this latest case.

Solid as a marshmallow.

22 posted on 04/26/2021 11:13:29 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: MileHi

> Keep and bear = own AND carry What’s hard or unclear about that? <

The Supreme Court evidently uses different definitions than we do.

From the 6th Amendment: “In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury...”

Did you notice the word “all” there? That means in each and every case, right? No, the Supreme Court has said. You only have the right to a jury trial if you’re facing more than six months imprisonment. So if the Feds decide to charge you with a crime carrying a six month sentence, no jury of your peers for you. Your fate is up to some judge. And if that judge is having a bad day, you’re screwed.

It’s disgusting.


23 posted on 04/26/2021 11:14:43 AM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: dsrtsage

NO WE DON’T!!


24 posted on 04/26/2021 11:16:13 AM PDT by Osage Orange (DRT)
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To: thegagline

Yay Paul Clement!


25 posted on 04/26/2021 11:26:24 AM PDT by edwinland
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To: thegagline

I’m guessing that our Supreme Court will decide in favor of our Second Amendment rights on this issue in favor of all economic and social classes. We’ll see.


26 posted on 04/26/2021 11:28:01 AM PDT by familyop (Only here for the tales from the rubber room.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Do you think they’ll consider how many states allow concealed carry?


27 posted on 04/26/2021 11:28:24 AM PDT by meatloaf
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To: Nachoman
I don’t care what SCOTUS does. I’m keeping my guns, and I’ll carry at least 1 on my person everyday. God bless Texas!

I'll need to learn more, but I don't believe this is about overturning a law in a unrestrictive state but overturning a law in a restrictive state, actually New York city, of NY.

28 posted on 04/26/2021 11:33:15 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: DoughtyOne

BINGO! The Supremes definitely having something to say about this!


29 posted on 04/26/2021 11:35:28 AM PDT by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: meatloaf

The GOOD states will simply ignore a negative decision and codify their own laws in line with or contrary to, the USSC decision.


30 posted on 04/26/2021 11:39:37 AM PDT by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: meatloaf

I can tell you my thoughts, but I am by no means an expert
on the court.

The reason I’ve seen exhibited by the SCOTUS in recent
rulings leads me to also question that possibility. They
should. Then again, they shouldn’t have to. The Second
Amendment is perfectly clear. “Shall not be infringed!”

Can they even grasp that? I honestly don’t know.

The Left struck out the side when it came to the inning
with the last election in it, on some very clear cut
violations of the Constitution of the United States.

I am not encouraged by the thought they’ll be able to see
this any more clearly.

If they don’t start stepping up, we’re going to be
defenseless against the Left and its storm troopers.

It’s not safe out on the streets.


31 posted on 04/26/2021 11:52:58 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Folks, if you haven't yet, please start an automatic monthly for Jim and his crew.)
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To: SgtHooper

After their rulings or lack thereof concerning the 2020
election, I am concerned WHAT they will say.


32 posted on 04/26/2021 11:56:01 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Folks, if you haven't yet, please start an automatic monthly for Jim and his crew.)
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To: thegagline
Requiring a law abiding citizen to acquire/buy a concealed carry license is unconstitutional. What part of 2A doesn't our SCOTUS understand?

Some states "get it" and have passed state laws allowing all law abiding citizens to CC without a license.

Our SCOTUS should have shot down all CC and open carry licensing laws long ago. 2A is a RIGHT! State laws that restrict law abiding citizens - CC and open carry - are plainly unconstitutional.

33 posted on 04/26/2021 11:57:07 AM PDT by JesusIsLord
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To: dsrtsage

What are you a Democratic lurking here in FR land to spread misinformation and sew discontent? sounds like it.


34 posted on 04/26/2021 12:12:23 PM PDT by dirtymac (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country.(DT4POTUS))
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To: dirtymac

Pretty much the opposite of your assessment


35 posted on 04/26/2021 12:15:54 PM PDT by dsrtsage (Complexity is merely simplicity lacking imagination)
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To: dsrtsage

Sorry for the snarky stuff.

Bad day on a number of fronts.

My apologies.


36 posted on 04/26/2021 12:19:07 PM PDT by dirtymac (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country.(DT4POTUS))
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To: dirtymac

All good. I am the king of snark and probably offend half the people on this site daily. I fully understand the frustration with the ever increasing absurdity of the world and the ease at which conclusions can be leapt to


37 posted on 04/26/2021 12:23:41 PM PDT by dsrtsage (Complexity is merely simplicity lacking imagination)
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To: thegagline

This is virtually identical to the Peruta V San Diego case that SCOTUS refused to hear back when the Left ruled the court 5-4 (6-3 if counting Roberts as a liberal). If we don’t win this now, we will have lost the issue for at least a decade, maybe two, maybe forever.

I suspect we will win, but Roberts will vote with the majority. Being Chief Justice and with the majority, Roberts will then construct the Majority Decision in such a way that he dilutes and weakens the 2A, rather than finally giving us a ruling that upholds the constitution. 4 or even 5 Justices could write or sign concurring opinions that support full 2A rights, but only Roberts’ opinion will be precedent.


38 posted on 04/26/2021 12:37:13 PM PDT by ETCM
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To: thegagline

Necessary to a free state, shall not be infringed.
Anything and anyone else can sincerely KMA if they view it any other way.


39 posted on 04/26/2021 12:47:10 PM PDT by vpintheak (Live free, or die!)
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To: DoughtyOne

Too bad we’re now stuck with them for DECADES.

And I will note the “God bless PDJT for KEEPING his campaign pledge to give us pro-life originalists in the Scalia mold” crowd hasn’t apologized for lashing out at anyone who questioned how “good” the appointments were at time they were announced...


40 posted on 04/26/2021 1:16:24 PM PDT by BillyBoy ("States rights" is NOT a suicide pact.)
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