Posted on 04/23/2021 6:44:40 PM PDT by lightman
Millions have rolled up their sleeves to take the COVID-19 vaccination because the jab promises protection against the notorious pathogen. However, millions more remain hesitant. Now, officials are pushing a new incentive: freedom.
A growing number of universities now require that students get vaccinated before they return to campus. Airlines and workplaces are devising apps that allow entry based on inoculation status. And several countries are either set to unveil, or have already rolled out, a vaccine passport program. Details in each system may vary, but they all involve lifting restrictions for those who take the COVID-19 vaccine, and maintaining restrictions for those who haven’t.
Most governments haven’t tried to mandate the vaccine—a gene therapy released under emergency use authorization in the United States that is still undergoing clinical trials. And even as they promote the idea of vaccine passports, officials maintain that the decision to get the shot is still a matter of personal choice. But, after a year of social restrictions, the promise of any measure of freedom certainly makes taking the jab a bit more tempting.
Critics call such programs manipulative and discriminatory. But supporters say these measures are a vital step toward easing the world safely back to normalcy.
On April 2, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) announced that fully vaccinated individuals (those who took their last recommended dosage more than two weeks ago) were permitted to freely travel by bus, train, or plane anywhere in the United States, provided they remain masked during their trip. Everyone else is still urged to get tested before they depart, and quarantine when they return.
“Vaccines can help us return to the things we love about life, so we encourage every American to get vaccinated as soon as they have the opportunity,” CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky said in the statement.
The reasoning behind these vaccine-for-freedom programs is that vaccinated individuals are less likely to spread or contract the disease, and therefore deserve to have less restrictions than those at greater risk of transmitting a potentially deadly virus.
Community immunity is the goal, and health officials say the vaccinated earn their freedom by contributing to this goal through their antibodies. The presence of these immune cells are proof that vaccinated individuals possess protection that the unvaccinated do not.
But vaccination isn’t the only road to antibody protection. Just like with other viral infections, people who catch COVID-19 can develop some immunity to the disease. And when you consider the number of people who have contracted COVID-19 and recovered, many have likely earned their antibodies naturally.
So if the goal is disease defense, doesn’t natural immunity deserve a pass, too?
Drugmakers point to evidence of the antibodies produced in subjects who’ve taken their jabs. In April, Pfizer announced results of a phase 3 clinical trial showing that its vaccine provided more than 91 percent protection for at least six months after the second dose.
But natural immunity against COVID-19 has demonstrated promise as well.
According to research funded by the National Institutes of Health (NIH) and published in January in the journal Science, the immune systems of more than 95 percent of people who recovered from COVID-19 had “durable memories of the virus up to eight months after infection.”
It was clear in vaccine trials that natural immunity was a force to be reckoned with. Drugmaker Merck gave up on both of the vaccines it developed last year to guard against COVID-19. On Jan. 25, Merck researchers announced their decision after they discovered the vaccines offered less protection than just contracting the virus itself and developing antibodies naturally.
Whether or not you recovered from COVID-19, health officials want everyone to take the shot. But the benefit this treatment offers those who have already created their own immunity isn’t clear. In December 2020, the CDC stated that the Pfizer vaccine demonstrated benefit for those with evidence of prior COVID-19 infection, but the health agency later admitted the claim was made in error.
Proving Immunity
There has been talk of granting immunity certificates to those who recovered from COVID-19 that would function in much the same way that vaccine passports work. However, when it comes to handing out freedom to the naturally immune folks, there are concerns to consider: How strong is their protection and how long will it last?
These concerns are discussed in a February report from The Royal Society in the UK. The report points to qualitative studies that suggest that antibodies generated by natural infection provide “strong protection against illness”—between 70 and 90 percent efficacy for at least six months. However, researchers are concerned that natural immunity may also be less effective in reducing infectiousness and transmission, particularly against asymptomatic infection.
Another problem is that there is no standard to measure natural antibody protection.
“With regard to developing a satisfactory passporting test, no standard antibody assay yet exists and there are no validated antibody concentrations that correlate with or signify protection, either against illness or infectivity,” the report stated.
The issues of testing and standards for antibody levels were also discussed in a 2020 report from the World Health Organization examining the ethical considerations of immunity passports. Not only have these important markers not been scientifically established, but, more importantly, there are several cases of people who catch COVID-19, recover, and then catch it again.
As such, the World Health Organization (WHO) has advised against the use of immunity certificates at this time as they have the potential to increase the risk of continued transmission,” the report stated.
To be fair, the longevity of protection the vaccine offers has also proven unreliable. On April 5, The Detroit News reported that as many as 246 Michigan residents considered fully vaccinated against COVID-19 were later diagnosed with the virus. Three of this group died following their diagnosis.
Cases were reported between Jan. 1 and March 31. A spokeswoman for the Michigan Department of Health and Human Services said the cases are undergoing further review. Similar reports of so-called “breakthrough” cases have appeared in Washington State, Hawaii, New York, and other states.
Conditions for Freedom
The WHO report lists three conditions that would need to be met for immunity certification to be a reasonable policy approach. Two require scientists to establish antibody standards.
First, what are reliable indicators for protection? And second, since declining immunity is common in coronavirus infections, a minimum length of immunity must be established. This duration must be “monitored over time so as to understand whether and when certificate holders need to reassess their immunity status and, possibly, renew their certificate.”
The third condition requires the availability of accurate tests to identify immune individuals. However, the technology currently available is time-consuming, and requires expensive lab analysis, making widespread antibody testing not so feasible.
But researchers are already developing solutions to meet these challenges. Earlier this month, a group of Canadian scientists announced a new, inexpensive test that can detect COVID-19 antibodies in less than an hour using one drop of blood. It utilizes a bioluminescent enzyme called luciferase that gives fireflies their glow. The test has proven to be highly accurate. It doesn’t require a lab and is easy to read. The more antibodies found, the brighter the test card glows.
Of course, none of this will be necessary in places that don’t require vaccines for freedom, and so far at least three states have executive orders that forbid these programs. In a March 29 press conference, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis said that it’s “completely unacceptable” for the government or the private sector to impose that people show proof of vaccine simply to participate in normal society.
“I think this is something that has huge privacy implications and is not necessary to do,” DeSantis said. “[Vaccination] is something we want available for all, but mandated for none.”policy approach. Two require scientists to establish antibody standards.
First, what are reliable indicators for protection? And second, since declining immunity is common in coronavirus infections, a minimum length of immunity must be established. This duration must be “monitored over time so as to understand whether and when certificate holders need to reassess their immunity status and, possibly, renew their certificate.”
The WHO report lists three conditions that would need to be met for immunity certification to be a reasonable policy approach.
The Declaration of Independence and the Constitution are the only "conditions for freedom" necessary!
But, having posted that: On this and on this ONLY the Muslims are doing something right:
This year Moslems going to the Grand Mosque in Mecca will be admitted only with proof of vaccination or RECENTLY RECOVERED from COVID.
If that “works” and Ramadan is not a super spreader...expect a game changer.
so worrisome.
Proving immunity...
Why not just use the method Fauxci says he used
“If i dont have symptoms, I don’t get tested.”
If i dont have symptoms, i dont have it. Good enough for him, good enough for all.
Go fellate Fauci, Skippy.
The list of “symptoms” keeps growing faster than Fauxnochio’s nose.
Life is a COVID symptom.
And the worriworts and fearpers are getting tested every time they get a hangnail or pimple.
My natural immunity is better than the vaccine. If I contract, and defeat covid 19 every so often while I still have plenty of antibodies, I’d wager that’s the best way to keep immunity and, perhaps, gain permanent immunity or a reasonable general immunity to combat the dreaded “variants.”
Would help to teach the muzzies not to wipe their butt with their hand?
And the miracle of soap combined with water?
Other than childhood immunizations and ‘whatever’ the Army gave me through the years, I have NEVER had a ‘flu’ shot of any kind and the last time I HAD the ‘flu’ was when I was a teenager.
At 60, I am SO hesitant to get this shot, but my BFFs are insisting upon it. More and more I’d LIKE to think that they’re just idiots, but they ARE 10 years older than me and have husbands with compromised medical issues.
My own Mom, at age 83 has had her shots, but she hasn’t said a thing to me about me getting one and we’ve been hanging out together every few months throughout this whole past year; NO masks, lots of hugs.
Beau and I just keep putting it off, though the VA calls me every week (I’m a Vet) offering me a shot and Beau says to make an appointment at Walgreens, but we just seem to keep putting it off...
I plan to stay this course. ;)
No, because it’s not about being immune.
It’s about giving people the vaccine.
Besides, lots of people had it and are immune but can’t prove it because arly on they were not testing for it, and at this point, there’s no way to verify if someone had it or not.
+1
early on.....
I think I had in in early April last year, but I was so wiped out and it was so cold outside, that I was only leaving the house in an ambulance.
It really wiped me out and it took a while to get my strength back and recover. I was short of breath for a while afterwards and even now if I am wearing one of those blasted masks, if I try to carry on a conversation or really exert myself I still get winded.
Exactly. We don’t need to “earn” our freedom.
Right. we have already lost if the debate is about the conditions for freedom.
Uhm, are you daft?
NOTHING frees you from the complete and utter control of the medical cabal! Only those with near unlimited funds *MIGHT* escape our insatiable lust for total control of you mere serfs.
Bow before your betters! AND WEAR YOUR MASK WHEN YOU DO SO!
The biker rally last year in Sturgis was claimed to be a super spreader event before it happened.
There were a total of 6 SIX cases that were (marginally) attributed to the event, and NOT ONE SINGLE PERSON there had received the shot. One of those guys died. He was over 60.
There were over 200K people in Sturgis last year for the rally. 6 got sick. ONE died!
Are you still afraid?
I never was afraid of the d@mn virus...my only fear is of the tyrants who are using it to turn remove the blue and white from the American flag and fill it with gold stars.
If someone is immune now, won’t they have antibodies with which to fight off the virus, should they be exposed to it?
I made an appointment to get an antibody test on Wednesday (long story about prior infection is not pertinent).
I was told that I “was no longer immune” and endured pointed coercion (psychological play) to get the ‘vaccine’ (if you read my posts, you know that I did not).
That lie followed one which was clearly designed to shoehorn me in the back with a nurse, which I now realize was also to coerce me into getting the ‘vaccine’.
I stormed out of the clinic in disgust, and I have an appointment to donate blood next month. At that time I’ll be tested for antibodies and later I’ll secure a T-Detect Covid to validate my T-cells from the virus.
I’m now in the process of determining exactly how much clinics are paid for each ‘vaccine’ dose that they administer to patients, because it was a very bizarre experience. It was clear that staff was implementing very poorly trained procedures which had almost become habit, albeit clumsily applied when an ‘outlier’ (yours truly) walks in the door.
I can find no publicly available information from CDC to clinics on getting patients to be vaccinated. Put bluntly, I was having deja vu as though staff had a financial incentive to see me vaccinated. It smelled like ‘commission’, but different. I have a sense for such things.
But I do have natural immunity and I’ll bet my life against any other in an infectious environment.
Last man standing, winner take all.
Waiting...
Until then, anyone who considers compelling me to take these wholly experimental shots should realize that I and others (some here, I gather) near the point of giving their own ‘shots’ in response.
This is 1937 Germany: History repeats itself. I stand behind my oath to the Constitution and those who died defending it (as well as those still living).
Wanna compel shots? I’m your huckleberry :)
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