Posted on 04/16/2021 9:34:15 AM PDT by ebb tide
LifeSiteNews does not necessarily agree with all the opinions in this article, but believes that it presents a great deal of crucial information and is a valuable contribution to this issue.
April 16, 2021 (TRUE Whole Human) – A few friends have asked my thoughts on the COVID jab(s) so I thought it was time to write an article on the topic.
Knowing how contentious this issue is, part of me would rather just write about something else. But I believe the discussion/news is so one-sided that I should speak up.
As I always strive to do, I promise to do my best to be level-headed and non-hysterical.
I’m not here to pick a fight with anyone, just to walk you through some of what I’ve read, my lingering questions and explain why I can’t make sense of these COVID vaccines. Three ground rules for discussion:
If you care to engage on this topic with me, excellent. Here are the rules. I am more than happy to correspond with you if:
You are respectful and treat me the way you would want to be treated.
You ask genuinely thoughtful questions about what makes sense to you.
You make your points using sound logic and don’t hide behind links or the word “science.”
If you do respond, and you break any of those rules, your comments will be ignored/deleted.
With that out of the way, let me say this: I don’t know everything, but so far no one has been able to answer the objections below. So here are the reasons I’m opting out of the COVID vaccine: 1. Vaccine makers are immune from liability
The only industry in the world that bears no liability for injuries or deaths resulting from their products are vaccine makers.
As first established in 1986 with the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act, and reinforced by the Public Readiness and Emergency Preparedness (PREP) Act, vaccine makers cannot be sued — even if they are shown to be negligent.
The COVID vaccine makers are allowed to create a one-size-fits-all product, with no testing on sub-populations (i.e. people with specific health conditions), and yet they are unwilling to accept any responsibility for any adverse events or deaths their products cause.
If a company is not willing to stand behind its product as safe, especially one rushed to market, I am not willing to take a chance on that product.
No liability. No trust. Here’s why …
2. The checkered past of vaccine companies
The four major companies who are making COVID vaccines are/have either:
Never brought a vaccine to market before COVID (Moderna and Johnson & Johnson).
Are serial felons (Pfizer, and AstraZeneca).
Are both (Johnson & Johnson).
Moderna had been trying to “Modernize our RNA” (thus the company name) for years, but had never successfully brought any product to market. How nice for the company to get a major cash infusion from the government to keep trying.
In fact, all major vaccine makers (save Moderna) have paid out tens of billions of dollars in damages for other products they brought to market when they knew those products would cause injuries and death — see Vioxx, Bextra, Celebrex, Thalidomide and opioids as a few examples.
If drug companies willfully choose to put harmful products in the market — when they can be sued — why would we trust any product where they have no liability?
Three of the four COVID vaccine makers have been sued for products they brought to market even though they knew injuries and deaths would result.
Johnson & Johnson has lost major lawsuits in 1995, 1996, 2001, 2010, 2011, 2016, 2019 (For what it’s worth, the company’s vaccine also contains tissues from aborted fetal cells, perhaps a topic for another discussion).
Pfizer has the distinction of the biggest criminal payout in history. The company lost so many lawsuits it’s hard to count. You can check out its rap sheet here. Maybe that’s why Pfizer is demanding that countries where they don’t have liability protection put up collateral to cover vaccine-injury lawsuits.
AstraZeneca has similarly lost so many lawsuits it’s hard to count. Here’s one. Here’s another…you get the point. And in case you missed it, the company had its COVID vaccine suspended in at least 18 countries over concerns of blood clots, and it completely botched its meeting with the FDA with numbers from their study that didn’t match.
Oh, and apparently Johnson & Johnson (whose vaccine was granted Emergency Use Authorization in the U.S.) and AstraZenca (whose vaccine is not approved in the U.S.), had a little mix up in their ingredients … in 15 million doses. Oops.
Given the free pass from liability, and the checkered past of these companies, why would we assume that all their vaccines are safe and made completely above board?
Where else in life would we trust someone with that kind of reputation?
To me that makes as much sense as expecting a remorseless, abusive unfaithful lover to become a different person because a judge said deep down they are a good person.
No. I don’t trust them. No liability. No trust. Here’s another reason why I don’t trust them …
3. Ugly history of attempts to make coronavirus vaccines
There have been many attempts to make viral vaccines in the past that ended in utter failure — which is why we did not have a coronavirus vaccine in 2020.
In the 1960s, scientists attempted to make an RSV (respiratory syncytial virus) vaccine for infants. In that study, they skipped animal trials because the trials weren’t required then.
In the end, the vaccinated infants got much sicker than the unvaccinated infants when exposed to the virus in nature, with 80% of the vaccinated infants requiring hospitalization. Two of them died.
After 2000, scientists made many attempts to create coronavirus vaccines. For the past 20 years, all ended in failure because the animals in the clinical trials got very sick and many died, just like the children in the 1960s.
You can read a summary of this history/science here. Or if you want to read the individual studies you can check out these links:
In 2004, attempted vaccine produced hepatitis in ferrets.
In 2005, mice and civets became sick and more susceptible to coronaviruses after being vaccinated.
In 2012, the ferrets became sick and died. And in this study, mice and ferrets developed lung disease.
In 2016, this study also produced lung disease in mice.
The typical pattern in the studies referenced above is that the children and the animals produced beautiful antibody responses after being vaccinated. The manufacturers thought they hit the jackpot.
The problem came when the children and animals were exposed to the wild version of the virus.
When that happened, an unexplained phenomenon called antibody dependent enhancement, also known as vaccine enhanced disease, occurred where the immune system produced a “cytokine storm” (i.e. overwhelmingly attacked the body) and the children/animals died.
Here’s the lingering issue: The vaccine makers have no data to suggest their rushed vaccines have overcome that problem.
In other words, never before has any attempt to make a coronavirus vaccine been successful, nor has the gene-therapy technology in mRNA “vaccines” been safely brought to market.
We might assume that because the companies received billions of dollars in government funding, they must have figured out that problem.
Except they don’t know if they have …
When vaccine makers submitted their papers to the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) for the Emergency Use Authorization (which is not the same as a full FDA approval), among the many “data gaps” they reported was that they have nothing in their trials to suggest they overcame that pesky problem of vaccine enhanced disease.
They simply don’t know if the vaccines they’ve made will also produce the same cytokine storm (and deaths) as previous attempts at such products.
As Dr. Joseph Mercola points out …
“Previous attempts to develop an mRNA-based drug using lipid nanoparticles failed and had to be abandoned because when the dose was too low, the drug had no effect, and when dosed too high, the drug became too toxic. An obvious question is: What has changed that now makes this technology safe enough for mass use?”
If that’s not alarming enough, here are other gaps in the data — in other words, there is no data to suggest safety or efficacy regarding:
Anyone younger than age 18 or older than age 55.
Pregnant or lactating mothers.
Autoimmune conditions.
Immunocompromised individuals.
No data on transmission of COVID.
No data on preventing mortality from COVID.
No data on duration of protection from COVID.
In case you think I’m making this up, or want to see the actual documents sent to the FDA by Pfizer and Moderna for their Emergency Use Authorization, you can check out this, or this respectively. The data gaps can be found starting with page 46 and 48 respectively.
For now let’s turn our eyes to the raw data the vaccine makers used to submit for emergency use authorization …
Would you like to see the raw data that produced the “90% and 95% effective” claims touted in the news?
Me too. But the companies won’t let us see that data.
As pointed out in the BMJ, something about the Pfizer and Moderna efficacy claims smells really funny. There were “3,410 total cases of suspected, but unconfirmed COVID-19 in the overall study population, 1,594 occurred in the vaccine group vs. 1,816 in the placebo group.”
Wait … what? Did they fail to do science in their scientific study by not verifying a major variable?
Could they not test those “suspected but unconfirmed” cases to find out if they had COVID? Why not test all 3,410 participants for the sake of accuracy?
Can we only guess they didn’t test because it would mess up their “90-95% effective” claims?
Would it not be prudent for the FDA to expect (demand) the vaccine makers test people who have “COVID-like symptoms,” and release their raw data so independent third parties could examine how the manufacturers justified the numbers?
It’s only every citizen of the world we’re trying to get to take these experimental products — why did the FDA not require that? Isn’t that the entire purpose of the FDA anyway?
Good question. Foxes guarding the hen house? No liability. No trust.
With products that have been on the market only a few months, we have no long-term safety data.
In other words, we have no idea what this product will do in the body months or years from now — for any population.
Given all the risks above (risks that all pharmaceutical products have), would it not be prudent to wait to see if the worst-case scenarios have indeed been avoided?
Would it not make sense to want to fill those pesky “data gaps” before we try to give this to every man, woman and child on the planet?
That would make sense. But to have that data, they need to test it on people, which leads me to my next point …
What most who are taking the vaccine don’t know is that because these products are still in clinical trials, anyone who gets the shot is now part of the clinical trial — part of the experiment.
Those (like me) who do not take it, are part of the control group. Time will tell how this experiment works out.
But, you may be asking, if the vaccines are causing harm, wouldn’t we be seeing that all over the news? Surely the FDA would step in and pause the distribution? (Editor’s note: federal health officials on Tuesday paused the Johnsons & Johnson vaccine over concerns related to blood clots).
If the Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System (VAERS) — the government-run system for reporting deaths and injuries after vaccines — worked, maybe things would be different, but …
According to a Harvard study (commissioned by our own government), less than 1% of all adverse reactions to vaccines are actually submitted to VAERS.
While the problems with VAERS have not been fixed (as you can read about in this letter to the CDC), at the time of this writing, VAERS reports over 2,200 deaths from the current COVID vaccines, as well as close to 60,000 adverse reactions.
If those numbers represent only 1% of the total adverse reactions (or .8% to 2% of what this study published recently in the JAMA found), you can do the math — but that equates to somewhere around 110,000 to 220,000 deaths from the vaccines to date, and a ridiculous number of adverse reactions.
Bet you didn’t see that on the news.
That death number would currently still be lower than the 424,000 deaths from medical errors that happen every year (which you probably also don’t hear about), but we are not even six months into the rollout of these vaccines yet.
If you want a deeper dive into the problems with the VAERS reporting system, you can check out this or this.
But then there’s my next point, which could be argued makes these COVID vaccines seem pointless …
Aren’t these vaccines supposed to be what we’ve been waiting for to “go back to normal”? Nope.
Why do you think we’re getting all these conflicting messages about needing to practice social distancing and wear masks after we get a vaccine? The reason is because these vaccines were never designed to stop transmission or infection.
If you don’t believe me, I refer you again to the papers submitted to the FDA I linked to above which show that the primary endpoint (what the vaccines are meant to accomplish) is to lower your symptoms.
Sounds like just about every other drug on the market right? That’s it … lowering your symptoms is the big payoff we’ve been waiting for. Does that seem completely pointless to anyone but me?
It can’t stop us from spreading the virus.
It can’t stop the virus from infecting us once we have it.
To get the vaccine is to accept all the risk of these experimental products and the best it might do is lower symptoms?
There are plenty of other things I can do to lower my symptoms that don’t involve taking what appears to be a really risky product.
Now for the next logical question: If we’re worried about asymptomatic spreaders, would the vaccine not make it more likely that we are creating asymptomatic spread?
If it indeed reduces symptoms, anyone who gets it might not even know they are sick and thus they are more likely to spread the virus, right?
For what it’s worth, I’ve heard many people say the side effects of the vaccine (especially the second dose) are worse than catching COVID.
I can’t make sense of that either.
Take the risk. Get no protection. Suffer through the vaccine side effects. Keep wearing your mask and social distancing … and continue to be able to spread the virus.
It gets worse …
Talk about a bummer. You get vaccinated and you still catch COVID.
It’s happening in Washington State.
It’s happening in New York.
It’s happening in Michigan.
It’s happening in Hawaii.
It’s happening in several other states too.
It happened to 80% of 35 nuns who got the vaccine in Kentucky. Two of them died by the way.
In reality, this phenomenon is probably happening everywhere, but those are the ones making the news now.
Given the reasons above (and what’s below), maybe this doesn’t surprise you, but bummer if you thought the vaccine was a shield to keep you safe.
It’s not. That was never the point.
If 66% of healthcare workers in L.A. are going to delay or skip the vaccine … maybe they aren’t wowed by the rushed science either.
Maybe they are watching the shady way deaths and cases are being reported …
According to the CDC’s own numbers, COVID has a 99.74% survival rate.
Why would I take a risk on a product, that doesn’t stop infection or transmission, to help me overcome a cold that has a .26% chance of killing me — which actually in my age range is has about a .1% chance of killing me (and .01% chance of killing my kids).
With a bar (death rate) that low, we will be in lockdown every year … i.e., forever.
But wait, what about the 500,000-plus deaths, that’s alarming right? I’m glad you asked …
Something smells really funny about this one. Never before in the history of death certificates has our own government changed how deaths are reported.
Why now, are we reporting everyone who dies with COVID in their body, as having died of COVID, rather than the co-morbidities that actually took their life?
Until COVID, all coronaviruses (common colds) were never listed as the primary cause of death when someone died of heart disease, cancer, diabetes, auto-immune conditions or any other major comorbidity.
The disease was listed as the cause of death, and a confounding factor like flu or pneumonia was listed on a separate line.
To bloat the number even more, the World Health Organization and the CDC changed their guidelines such that those who are suspected or probable (but were never confirmed) of having died of COVID, are also included in the death numbers.
If we are going to do that then should we not go back and change the numbers of all past cold and flu seasons so we can compare apples to apples when it comes to death rates?
According to the CDCs own numbers, (scroll down to the section “comorbidities and other conditions”), only 6% of the deaths being attributed to COVID are instances where COVID seems to be the only issue at hand.
In other words, reduce the death numbers you see on the news by 94% and you have what is likely the real numbers of deaths from just COVID.
Even if the former CDC director is correct and COVID-19 was a lab-enhanced virus (see Reason #14 below), a .26% death rate is still in line with the viral death rate that circles the planet every year.
Then there’s this Fauci guy. I’d really love to trust him, but besides the fact that he hasn’t treated one COVID patient, you should probably know …
Thanks to the Bayh-Dole Act, government workers are allowed to file patents on any research they do using taxpayer funding.
Tony Fauci owns more than 1,000 patents (see this video for more details), including patents being used on the Moderna vaccine … for which he approved government funding.
In fact, the National Institutes of Health (NIH) — which oversees the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), of which Fauci is the director — claims joint ownership of Moderna’s vaccine.
Does anyone else see this as a major conflict of interest, or criminal even?
I say criminal because there’s also this pesky problem that makes me even more distrustful of Fauci, NIAD, and the NIH in general …
What is “gain-of-function” research? It’s where scientists attempt to make viruses gain functions — i.e. make them more transmissible and deadlier.
Sounds at least a touch unethical, right? How could that possibly be helpful?
Our government agreed, and 2014, banned the practice.
So what did the Fauci-led NIAID do? They pivoted and outsourced the gain-of-function research (in coronaviruses no less) to China — to the tune of a $600K grant.
Mr. Fauci, you have some explaining to do … and I hope the cameras are recording when you have to defend your actions.
For now, let’s turn our attention back to the virus …
Not only does the virus (like all viruses) continue to mutate, but according to world-renowned vaccine developer Geert Vanden Bossche (whom you’ll meet below if you don’t know him) it’s mutating about every 10 hours.
How in the world are we going to keep creating vaccines to keep up with that level of mutation? We’re not.
Might that also explain why fully vaccinated people are continuing to catch COVID?
Why, given that natural immunity has never ultimately failed humanity, do we suddenly not trust it?
Why, if I ask questions like the above, or post links like what you find above, will my thoughts be deleted from all major social media platforms?
That brings me to the next troubling problem I have with these vaccines …
I can’t help but get snarky here, so humor me.
How did you enjoy all those nationally and globally televised, robust debates put on by public health officials, and broadcast simultaneously on every major news station?
Wasn’t it great hearing from the best minds in medicine, virology, epidemiology, economics and vaccinology, from all over the world. as they vigorously and respectfully debated things like:
Lockdowns
Mask wearing
Social-distancing
Vaccine efficacy and safety trials
How to screen for susceptibility to vaccine injury
Therapeutics, (i.e. non-vaccine treatment options)
Wasn’t it great seeing public health officials (who never treated anyone with COVID) have their “science” questioned?
Wasn’t it great seeing the FDA panel publicly grill the vaccine makers in prime time as they stood in the hot-seat of tough questions about products of which they have no liability?
Oh, wait … you didn’t see those debates? No, you didn’t. Because they never happened.
What happened instead was heavy-handed censorship of all but one narrative.
Mark Zuckerberg can question vaccine safety, but I can’t? When did the First Amendment become a suggestion?
It’s the FIRST Amendment, Mark — the one our founders thought was most important.
With so much at stake, why are we fed only one narrative. Shouldn’t many perspectives be heard and professionally debated?
What has happened to science?
What has happened to the scientific method of always challenging our assumptions?
What happened to lively debate in this country, or at least in Western society?
Why did anyone who disagrees with WHO, or the CDC get censored so heavily?
Is the science of public health a religion now — or is science supposed to be about debate?
If someone says “the science is settled” that’s how I know I’m dealing with someone who is closed minded. By definition science (especially biological science) is never settled.
If it was, it would be dogma, not science.
I want to be a good citizen. I really do.
If lockdowns work, I want to do my part and stay home.
If masks work, I want to wear them.
If social distancing is effective, I want to comply.
But, if there is evidence they don’t (masks for example), I want to hear that evidence, too.
If highly credentialed scientists have different opinions, I want to know what they think. I want a chance to hear their arguments and make up my own mind.
I don’t think I’m the smartest person in the world, but I think I can think. Maybe I’m weird, but if someone is censored, then I really want to hear what they think. Don’t you?
To all my friends who don’t have a problem with censorship, will you have the same opinion when what you think is censored?
Is censorship not the technique of dictators, tyrants and greedy, power-hungry people?
Is it not a sign that those who are doing the censoring know it’s the only way they can win?
What if a man who spent his entire life developing vaccines was willing to put his entire reputation on the line and call on all global leaders to immediately stop the COVID vaccines because of problems with the science?
What if he pleaded for an open-scientific debate on a global stage?
Would you want to hear what he has to say? Would you want to see the debate he’s asking for?
Here is what may be the biggest reason this COVID vaccine doesn’t make sense to me.
When someone who is very pro-vaccine, who has spent his entire professional career overseeing the development of vaccines, is shouting from the mountaintops that we have a major problem, I think the man should be heard.
In case you missed it, and in case you care to watch it, here is Geert Vanden Bossche, explaining:
Why the COVID vaccine may be putting so much pressure on the virus that we are accelerating its ability to mutate and become more deadly.
Why the COVID vaccines may be creating vaccine-resistant viruses (similar to antibiotic resistant bacteria).
Why, because of previous problems with antibody dependent enhancement, we may be looking at a mass casualty event in the next few months/years.
If you want to see/read about a second, and longer, interview with Vanden Bossche, where he was asked some tough questions, you can check this out.
If half of what he says comes true, these vaccines could be the worst invention of all time.
If you don’t like his science, take it up with him.
I’m just the messenger.
But I can also speak to COVID personally …
I didn’t enjoy it. It was a nasty cold for two days:
Unrelenting butt/low-back aches
Very low energy
Low-grade fever
It was weird not being able to smell anything for a couple days. A week later, coffee still tasted a little “off.”
But I survived.
Now it appears (as it always has) that I have beautiful, natural, life-long immunity — not something likely to wear off in a few months if I get the vaccine. In my body, and my household, COVID is over.
In fact, now that I’ve had it, there is evidence the COVID vaccine might actually be more dangerous for me.
That is not a risk I’m willing to take.
The above are just my reasons for not wanting the vaccine. Maybe my reasons make sense to you, maybe they don’t.
Whatever does makes sense to you, hopefully we can still be friends.
I for one think there’s a lot more that we have in common than what separates us.
We all want to live in a world of freedom.
We all want to do our part to help others and to live well.
We all want the right to express our opinions without fearing we’ll be censored or viciously attacked.
We all deserve to have access to all the facts so we can make informed decisions.
Agree or disagree with me, I’ll treat you no differently.
You’re a human just as worthy of love and respect as anyone else. For that I salute you, and I truly wish you all the best.
I hope you found this helpful. If so, feel free to share.
If not, feel free to (kindly) let me know, in the comments below, what didn’t make sense to you.
Reprinted with permission from TRUE Whole Human.
LifeSiteNews
Tend to agree. And many people forget that.
You are most correct.
“Will that make the dead feel better to know they were just a few anomolies?”
Stop with the stupidity! These are not 3000 deaths CAUSED by the vaccine. Just 3000 deaths that took place WITH the vaccine. It is the COVID scam in reverse, where dying WITH COVID was considered dying BECAUSE of COVID.
3000 people dying out of 125 million just means no one lives forever. It says NOTHING about the vaccine.
“The data for harm from smoking is vastly stronger than the data for harm from the vaccine. “
Yes, and why is that? BECAUSE ENOUGH TIME PASSED TO AQUIRE THAT DATA. Too late though for for many who thought smoking was safe back in the day. So the main point is saying X number took the vaccine and are doing just fine so no problem is just pure ignorance.
“Yes, and why is that? BECAUSE ENOUGH TIME PASSED TO AQUIRE THAT DATA.”
Nope! The harm of smoking was noticed long before that. “Coffin Nails” was first used to describe cigarettes in the 1890s. As early as 1868, this tobacco ad ran:
“THE YACHT CLUB SMOKING TOBACCO is made of the best smoking leaf in the world, after an original process exclusively our own, whereby ALL POISONOUS NICOTINE IS EXTRACTED.”
You are factually wrong.
Perhaps more to the point, we need to make decisions based on what it is possible to know. We cannot refuse to take any vaccine for 50 years because 50 years later something bad MIGHT appear. We would have no medicine at all if we had to test all medicines for 50 years before releasing them!
Brilliant observation there Mr. Rogers.
No it is not. It is not a traditional vaccine. It’s the first mass produced treatment with this technology. Is what I said correct or wrong?
Incorrect. Statistics / probability’s are clear that it would be wise not to put all eggs in one basket.
Your spewing hyperbole BS. There is every reason to hedge all bets. No matter the probabilities.
I see most of the logical lemmings have run off the cliff. Has the wise DR weighed in?
“Your spewing hyperbole BS.”
Actually, I’m using reason. We never test ANY medicine or vaccine for 50 years of potential side effects before using. That would be incredibly stupid.
And if YOU don’t want to take the vaccine, DON’T. I don’t care. But don’t insist no one else in America gets to take the vaccine because you don’t want to!
80% of Arizonans over the age 64 have taken the vaccine. As a group, they’re doing fine. But old bastards are tough bastards, so I guess we ought to expect the elderly to handle the vaccine so well!
I don’t care what you do. Just don’t expect people who come to a different conclusion to bow to your superior logic. The treatment is not a vaccine and it isn’t approved. End of discussion. Your in one life boat and I am in another. No changing at this point.
Another note. China published the virus DNA January 11. Morderna recruited for human trials February 25. Really. 6 weeks. You think that is reasonable, prudent, logical, safe. BTW China pulled the DNA before Feb 25. They said opps. I don’t trust China either. Fauchi has patents and financial interests in Morderna vaccine. Reason seems weak.
The hyperbole was the 50 year test requirement. Animal trials would have been nice. Children, mothers, old were not in the clinical phase 1/2; Your reasons are flawed.
I have never asserted that mRNA vaccines are necessarily “traditional vaccines” so I really have no idea wtf you are talking about.
They have been studied since 1989 and been around eliciting strong immunization for rabies, Zika virus, influenza etc. for a decade.
You’re wrong.
Didn’t you read
Quote: A new study by researchers from Whitehead Institute for Biomedical Research-Cambridge, Wyss Institute for Biologically Inspired Engineering-Harvard University, Department of Biology-Massachusetts Institute of Technology and the John A. Paulson School of Engineering and Applied Sciences-Harvard University have alarmingly discovered that the SARS-CoV-2 RNA is reverse-transcribed and integrated into the human genome.
Go bugger yourself. Your making mass hyperbole and trying to play both sides. Your so studied since 1989. Wow A cutting edge virologist/geneticist in our midst. I bow down to the infinite wisdom of your vast study.
EUA / no animal studies / no old / no children / no mothers or pregnancy / immunodeficiency/ or other risk groups in the phase 1/2 trials. You are part of phase 3. This treatment would never get mass distribution in any other time in history and I expect in the future.
BTW - what are our adversaries doing? They are taking the 0.5% hit. You think China, Russia, Iran ... are just stupid, lazy idiots? Or do you think strategically, aka not worried about Karens / Chads care when it comes to global trades. My guess is your at least 65 years old. The age of risk, reward, psychology that looks past the EUA / trials and claim to be reasoned. I don’t fault you until the moral all in or all out with special preference for the all in group.
I will put my knowledge against you “studies” with 1000:1 odds any day.
Feel free to bang your head agains the wall. Neither of us will relent. I will not feed your ego again. Your wrong - that’s ok, your arrogant - that is somewhat dangerous, your play moral/intellectual superiority to influence others - that’s flat outright morally incomprehensible.
“Children, mothers, old were not in the clinical phase 1/2; Your reasons are flawed.”
Hmmm.... what about phse 3?
“A review of unblinded reactogenicity data from the final analysis which consisted of a randomized subset of at least 8,000 participants 18 years and older in the phase 2/3 study demonstrates that the vaccine was well tolerated, with most solicited adverse events resolving shortly after vaccination.....
The Phase 3 clinical trial of BNT162b2 began on July 27 and has enrolled 43,661 participants to date, 41,135 of whom have received a second dose of the vaccine candidate as of November 13, 2020. Approximately 42% of global participants and 30% of U.S. participants have racially and ethnically diverse backgrounds, and 41% of global and 45% of U.S. participants are 56-85 years of age. A breakdown of the diversity of clinical trial participants can be found here from approximately 150 clinical trials sites in United States, Germany, Turkey, South Africa, Brazil and Argentina. The trial will continue to collect efficacy and safety data in participants for an additional two years.”
Children were not looked at and the initial release didn’t authorize them. Mothers and the old were looked at, with the elderly overrepresented in samples, both in phase 2 and phase 3.
It’s almost like they question their decision therefore want the rest of us in the same boat. I can always get the vaccine or another version but they cannot undue their irrational fear. They ran to the front of the line. Now if anyone points out the concerns, the say no concern your stupid - quit being stupid and join us on the all or nothing approach. Very illogical.
I would expect with an EUA / aka experiment - they would want multiple control groups by design or via social/intellectual design. Nooooo. You must jump into the risk group they are in rather than understanding/accepting a different risk control group.
Crazy, ignorant, selfish, scared, brainwashed, ... what is driving this delusional response?
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