Posted on 04/04/2021 1:12:17 PM PDT by RomanSoldier19
Infectious disease specialist, Dr. Sandra Bliss Nelson, weighs in on finding that show the Pfizer vaccine is performing well;
MIKE SIMPSON: It's holding its effectiveness, basically 90-ish percent, 91%, six months later. So I guess there's two ways to look at it. First is, yeah, six months. That's great. But then another crowd maybe goes, oh, well, maybe it's only six months. Well, it doesn't drop off to 10% the Tuesday after the six-month clock rolls around, right? So it's going to be maybe a sliding scale. We just have to see how far it goes.
SANDRA BLISS NELSON: I think that there's a couple of points to this. I mean, the first is that there's really no opportunity to know more than about six months. We really have only had these vaccines in clinical trials for that duration of time, so it's not to say exactly as you pointed out, that there's going to be a cliff at the end of six months. It's really just that that's as far as we really know.
But we have begun to learn more about immunity after natural infection, and we believe that that immunity lasts at least six months, if not a little bit longer. And given that vaccination seems to produce more potent immunity than natural affection itself, there's really no reason to think that we're going to get more durability out of this vaccine than six months.
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You are a sleazy propagandist.
Dr., I seriously doubt it.
You can’t utter the truth that the JnJ ‘vaccine’ is gene therapy.
Why not, dr?
Does the truth scare you?
...Propagandist...
You are free to your opinion. Again you pronounce truths that are completely incorrect.
Why are you so invested in making sure that people suffer. You don’t promote choice. You don’t promote truth. Shame on you. You will note I am comfortable with people electing to not be vaccinated.
I will not permit armchair scientists who have the ability to cut and paste poor sources to go unchallenged.
The fact is your insults merely prove you have nothing except a lack of understanding and nuance.
I am sorry you can’t stand a challenge to your incorrect assumptions.
The reserve vaccine shills will arrive any minute...
You seem to paint with utterly broad brushes behind your understanding. I will no longer respond as you have no frame of reference for understanding.
The article described how the foreign mRNA changes the function of the mitochondrial-bound ribosomes, and consequently in mitochondrial DNA function. Mitochondrial DNA is part of the human genome. So the foreign mRNA vaccines change how our DNA functions. Along with the fact that some messenger RNA vaccines are self-amplifying...
I have very a basic understanding, as many do, of the workings of messenger RNA, as it relates to the COVID vaccines. Many of us also know that for the most part, our naturally-evolved immune systems, in healthy people, make COVID extremely treatable.
Those of us who remain skeptical and untrusting have every right to be. It's called due diligence. There are many important, even critical unanswered questions about experimental gene therapy. The mRNA "vaccines" have been, in numerous publications and articles, referred to as such. A treatment defined as "experimental gene therapy" will have far greater liability in the legal sense, that will a treatment defined as a "vaccine."
My links are to the NIH and the New England journal of medicine...
Lol
Ever heard of those, dr. *Gas* ?
Lol
“Real safety issues for those taking it wont be known for a couple of years.”
So true, but researchers are providing clues
https://www.mdpi.com/2076-393X/9/1/36/htm
“It is generally thought that the sole function of viral membrane fusion proteins is to allow the viruses to bind to the host cells for the purpose of viral entry into the cells, so that the genetic materials can be released and the viral replication and amplification can take place. However, recent observations suggest that the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein can by itself trigger cell signaling that can lead to various biological processes. It is reasonable to assume that such events, in some cases, result in the pathogenesis of certain diseases.
Our laboratory only tested the effects of the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein in lung vascular cells and those implicated in the development of PAH. However, this protein may also affect the cells of systemic and coronary vasculatures, eliciting other cardiovascular diseases such as coronary artery disease, systemic hypertension, and stroke. In addition to cardiovascular cells, other cells that express ACE2 have the potential to be affected by the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein, which may cause adverse pathological events. Thus, it is important to consider the possibility that the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein produced by the new COVID-19 vaccines triggers cell signaling events that promote PAH, other cardiovascular complications, and/or complications in other tissues/organs in certain individuals (Figure 3). We will need to monitor carefully the long-term consequences of COVID-19 vaccines that introduce the spike protein into the human body. Furthermore, while human data on the possible long-term consequences of spike protein-based COVID-19 vaccines will not be available soon, it is imperative that appropriate experimental animal models are employed as soon as possible to ensure that the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein does not elicit any signs of the pathogenesis of PAH or any other chronic pathological conditions.
PAH “outbreaks” have occurred in association with exposure to certain drugs or toxins [39]. A major outbreak of PAH occurred in 1965 and was associated with aminorex, a weight-loss stimulating drug [39,40]. Approximately 0.2% of people who took this drug developed PAH [40]. An epidemic was observed two years after the introduction of aminorex, and half of the patients died 10 years after the epidemic [39].
In conclusion, the recent advancement in the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein-based COVID-19 vaccine development is exciting and has shed light on how to end the current pandemic. These vaccines should benefit elderly people with underlying conditions if they do not exhibit any acute adverse events. However, we need to consider their long-term consequences carefully, especially when they are administered to otherwise healthy individuals as well as young adults and children. In addition to evaluating data that will become available from SARS-CoV-2 infected individuals as well as those who received the spike protein-based vaccines, further investigations of the effects of the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein in human cells and appropriate animal models are warranted.”
If that is your requirement for conversing on da interwebs then I suggest you go to MDBullshiitte.com.
You can’t even stand up with a relatively pedestrian commentator on a general site. You’re simply an anonymous fraud.
If you really are a dr., I feel sorry for your patients.
https://drsircus.com/general/covid-is-a-vitamin-d-deficiency-pandemic/
Calm down. I wasn’t posted for your eyes only.
In patients older than 40 years they observed that those patients who were vitamin D sufficient were 51.5 percent less likely to die from the infection compared to patients who were vitamin D deficient or insufficient with a blood level of 25-hydroxyvitamin D less than 30 ng/mL.
There are some studies showing that due to people living longer and other factors, smallpox vaccination may no longer be for life. There are other diseases where this may be the case.
Exactly. It's stupid. It's a feel good bandaid. I'm taking my chances with Covid.
;)
Yeah and since it might be that long before cruising starts again ...if he CDC demand vax to travel...
Whoops too bad your vax passport has expired...
So you take an article where the immunity has been found to last at least 6 months so far to say it is a scam?
What sense, exactly, does that make?
I’ve read this entire post and all of the replies. There is a huge battle going on between at least two posters. I don’t easily follow all the technical arguments, m-rna dna, etc. Those people citing all their data don’t impress me at all. Do you know what does impress me? The “experts” that actually worked on and developed the “vaccines”. Without exception, not one of them can express any sort of full confidence, much less a guarantee, in these “vaccines”. They hope/believe these “vaccines” will do what they “hope/believe” they will do. Not a single one will come out and acknowledge that it is possible these “vaccines” may turn out to be a huge mistake. There is undeniable evidence that it is entirely possible that these “vaccines” may make one even more susceptible to a future Corona virus.
I would really like to see any data that shows any kind of correlation between people that have died from COVID19 who regularily receive an annual flu shot compared to those who do get a flu shot.
Could be...I haven’t studied the issue lately. As far as I remember the military stopped requiring smallpox in the 80’s.
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