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In investigation of Rep. Gaetz's alleged sexual relationship with minor, feds looking beyond Florida
ABC ^ | 3//31/2021 | Mike Levine,Katherine Faulders,Alexander Mallin, andJohn Santucci

Posted on 03/31/2021 6:14:34 PM PDT by Alter Kaker

The federal investigation into Florida Rep. Matt Gaetz is focused on allegations that the junior congressman had a sexual relationship with at least one minor, and is scrutinizing the Republican's conduct not only in Florida but in other states too, three sources familiar with the investigation tell ABC News.

The investigation, first reported by the New York Times Tuesday and confirmed by ABC News, has sent shockwaves through Republican circles, particularly among close associates of former President Donald Trump, who considered Gaetz a staunch ally and loyal friend.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: alterkaker; altermakerisatroll; fakenews; gaetz; mattgaetz; nevertrumpers; sex; trump; witchhunt; zot
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To: sam_whiskey

Depends where. In Florida the age of consent is 18. So it could be statutory rape. The Federal investigation suggests Mann Act (human trafficking) charges.


21 posted on 03/31/2021 6:44:35 PM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Alter Kaker

The term is “lawfare”.


22 posted on 03/31/2021 6:48:34 PM PDT by freepersup (“Those who conceal crimes are preparing to commit new ones.” ~Vuk Draskovic~)
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To: sam_whiskey

Age of Consent: Blue=16, Brown=17, Green=18

I don't know if the Mann Act might apply here.

23 posted on 03/31/2021 6:55:43 PM PDT by TChad (The MSM, having nuked its own credibility, is now bombing the rubble.)
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To: Alter Kaker

Is it blackmail, or extortion? Where is evidence the New York Times is telling the truth?


24 posted on 03/31/2021 6:55:47 PM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: Alter Kaker

The person DOESN’T exist. - Matt Gaetz


25 posted on 03/31/2021 6:56:18 PM PDT by conservative98
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To: Alter Kaker

Thanks for the elucidation.


26 posted on 03/31/2021 6:56:32 PM PDT by Gunslingr3
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To: phoneman08

My mother was married when she was sixteen, she had graduated from high school and was employed. We have lots of photos of happy family members after they eloped, her husband, not my father, was in the Marines and was only a year older. No one considered them children.


27 posted on 03/31/2021 7:02:14 PM PDT by notted
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To: conservative98

Best for people to wait and see a bit.

Gaetz says there is no 17-year-old. She doesn’t exist.
I’ve seen no evidence that she does exist.

The extortion? I hear they have recordings. The FBI is reviewing that evidence.

The game of politics is very one-sided these days. The Left can make up stories — and that means they automatically win. Full media press about how awful that Republican is. Like the Trump dossier, right? The Left wins by making up allegations.

I think I want to sit back and see what bears fruit: the extortion or the 17-year-old. Even if that turns out to be true: she’s 17, not 11. Yes, in Florida, that’s too young. But does she exist? Did they go on a date? Did they have sex? It’s all allegations without evidence that I’ve seen. I’m not going to lose my head over this quite yet.

But I do want to hear more about the Deep State’s extortion racket.


28 posted on 03/31/2021 7:06:48 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy ("I see you did something -- why you so racist?")
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To: TChad

crossing a state line makes it a Mann violation and the only reason the DOJ could investigate. Apparently he took her on some of his trips across state lines.


29 posted on 03/31/2021 7:20:22 PM PDT by elpadre
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To: ClearCase_guy
"could be wrong, but I think they have absolutely no evidence at all."

Thought I heard that the alleged victim was also threatened to stick with the story, or that they would charge her with something?

Quite a shocking story if true.

How many others have been bribed and threatened? (Any SC Justices?)

30 posted on 03/31/2021 7:21:31 PM PDT by Pajamajan ( PRAY FOR OUR NATION. I will never be a peaceful slave in a new Socialist America.)
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To: Alter Kaker

In my early life, I ran for state elected office. I won. But during the election, someone who supported my opponent passed out a flyer stating that I had been involved sexually with underage girls and that I had impregnated an underage “black” girl. It was all bogus and false. So you cannot say it’s hard to “blackmail folks who don’t have skeletons in their closets.” I had no such skeletons. But that did not stop them from making the claims. If we have learned anything, we have learned that the Democrats will tell any lie they want because they know they will get covered. Remember the lie Harry Reid told about Mittens? That he had not paid taxes for years and years. It was a out and out lie. Reid even later admitted such but said “it worked” and Obama won. They do not care. So, any Republican that will stand up and be a force against the Dems will be lied about. One does not have to have skeletons for them to make crap up.

And when I ran for re-election, I was approached with a “blackmail” attempt that if I would withdraw from the race, a bogus claim would not be released, but if I stayed in the race, it would be released. I stayed in...nothing was released because it was all a lie.

Have you pondered the fact that if Gaetz was really guilty, then he might have actually tried to cut a deal with the extortioner instead of going to the justice department with the blackmail story? The same justice department that the blackmailer claimed was investigating Gaetz?

Gaetz categorically denied the allegations. It think it’s utter BS. But some filthy dems were trying to make money.


31 posted on 03/31/2021 7:27:45 PM PDT by yukong ( )
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To: phoneman08

If the accusations are true (and I say IF), it is obvious that Gaetz had no intention of marrying this girl. I want to know why they can’t say whether she exists, and if so, how old she is/was. Also, I want to know how close an association Gaetz had with that sleazeball Greenberg, who is involved in sex trafficking.


32 posted on 03/31/2021 7:29:53 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX ("War is the health of the state." Randolph Bourne)
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To: Alter Kaker
Did you watch Tucker! He admitted it!

He admitted to what?

Cite the Gaetz quote.

33 posted on 03/31/2021 7:48:39 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Alter Kaker

Quote: “ I 100% believe he was being blackmailed. But the reason he was blackmailed was because he’d slept with a 17 year old. Much harder to blackmail the innocent.”

Not really, not at all. It can also be extortion.

All it takes is an accusation on the one hand. It also only takes a false witness.

With this Deep State, don’t put it past them to coerce someone to present false testimony. You know, it would be very Ballsey Ford of them to do so.


34 posted on 03/31/2021 8:11:00 PM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: Alter Kaker

There are those sources again. Personally even if true I don’t care. To me a 17 year old is hardly a naif. As long as coercion, threats, or other illicit means were not used to obtain “consent” I believe consent is just that. Yes I know the law sees it otherwise. Yet a 17 year old is considered able to consent to sex with somebody who is closer in age. They were even considered (until recent changes in law) old enough to contract a marriage. They certainly are considered mature enough to get an abortion. So I see this as a smear job and attempt to destroy a Trump loyalist. Legalities be hanged.


35 posted on 03/31/2021 8:33:08 PM PDT by lastchance
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To: Alter Kaker

“How old were you?”


23.


36 posted on 03/31/2021 8:51:30 PM PDT by phoneman08 (qwiyrqweopigradfdzcm,.dadfjl,dz )
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To: notted

“My mother was married when she was sixteen, she had graduated from high school and was employed. We have lots of photos of happy family members after they eloped, her husband, not my father, was in the Marines and was only a year older. No one considered them children.”


Yep, it does seem times have changed.

I started working when I was sixteen, Bought my first car at 18, married at 23, bought our first house at 24, but didn’t have our first child until 30.

Now, “kids” are on their parent’s insurance until 26 LOL.


37 posted on 03/31/2021 8:59:31 PM PDT by phoneman08 (qwiyrqweopigradfdzcm,.dadfjl,dz )
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To: Pining_4_TX

At the youngest, reports are she was seventeen.

Even if the NYT story is close to accurate, my point was he wasn’t engaged in some sort of child trafficking or pedophilia. Yea, he’s too old for her, but it’s not at all unheard of for a man to “date” a young woman 20 or more years younger than he.


38 posted on 03/31/2021 9:04:42 PM PDT by phoneman08 (qwiyrqweopigradfdzcm,.dadfjl,dz )
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To: phoneman08

Yes, but was she hot?


39 posted on 04/01/2021 12:55:58 AM PDT by baclava
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To: baclava
Yes, but was she hot?

LOL. Yes, she was!

40 posted on 04/01/2021 2:18:09 AM PDT by phoneman08 (qwiyrqweopigradfdzcm,.dadfjl,dz )
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