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Fleischer predicts Democrats will nix filibuster for gun control
The Hill ^ | 03/24/21 01:21 PM EDT | BY CELINE CASTRONUOVO

Posted on 03/25/2021 3:14:37 PM PDT by RandFan

Fox News contributor and former White House press secretary Ari Fleischer on Wednesday predicted that Senate Democrats will move to nix the Senate filibuster on gun reform legislation after multiple deadly mass shootings.

During an interview on Fox’s “America’s Newsroom,” Fleischer, who served under former President George W. Bush’s administration, said that gun control is one of the issues at the “core” of the Democratic Party.

“I think this is going to be an issue that breaks the Senate,” he said. “It is so deep and fervent inside the Democratic Party that gun control is the answer.”

Fleischer went on to predict that Senate Democrats will “break the filibuster over this,” adding, “I don’t think they have any choice.”

“The base demands it, they demand action, they say thoughts and prayers are not enough,” he continued. “They’re going to try to get through whatever they can get through on 50 votes, and this will be the issue that they challenge the filibuster over.”

Co-host Bill Hemmer pointed out opposition to nixing the filibuster among moderate Democrats, particularly Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.), who told CNN on Tuesday that he would still advocate against it even if removing the rule would allow the passage of his bipartisan bill with Republican Sen. Pat Toomey (Pa.), which requires background checks on armed sales at gun shows and over the internet.

The bill goes short of mandating background checks in private transfers of firearms, which the broader House gun reform bills have included.

However, Fleischer said, “Manchin also said he would only support a bipartisan COVID bill, and of course, there was a partisan COVID bill and he supported it.”

“Manchin is always an open question,” he added. “I’m not sure I would take him at his word, particularly when the pressure mounts on the core issue that defines the modern day Democratic Party.”

Fleischer’s remarks come amid growing support among Democrats to eliminate the 60-vote filibuster needed to end debate on legislation. Ending the practice would return the Senate to a “talking filibuster,” in which senators need to physically be on the floor to block legislation

Senate Majority Leader Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) has pledged to put forth a series of bills on the floor, which will likely force Democrats to take a position on removing the filibuster in order to move forward their desired policy proposals in the face of Republican opposition.

President Biden on Tuesday called on Congress to enact meaningful gun control legislation, including a ban on assault weapons and high-capacity magazines, as well as closing loopholes in background checks for firearms.

Biden’s call for further reforms included a demand that the Senate “immediately pass” two bills approved by the House earlier this year that would expand background checks on gun sales, and Schumer has vowed to take action on the legislation.

Other lawmakers have signaled that they would support removing the filibuster in order to move forward a range of other legislative reforms.

Sen. Angus King (I-Maine) on Wednesday suggested he would support changing Senate rules should Republicans block voting rights legislation.

"All-out opposition to reasonable voting rights protections cannot be enabled by the filibuster; if forced to choose between a Senate rule and democracy itself, I know where I will come down," King wrote in an op-ed for The Washington Post.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: arifleischer; banglist; filibuster; insurrection; rino; senate; voterfraud
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To: RandFan

Simply, attacking 2A is paramount to civil war. Taking 2A is the game changer and the dominoes fall.


21 posted on 03/25/2021 4:02:38 PM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: Mariner; Libloather

Dems could be confiscating guns in blue states right now. Are they? Not really. Both parties want gun control on the table to GOTV. It’s tactically better for the Dems to wait on national gun control. They have no need to wake up the sleeping suburbs in TX, GA and FL until they are firmly under Dem control.


22 posted on 03/25/2021 4:04:01 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: Dr. Franklin

Either way it is dead


23 posted on 03/25/2021 4:24:33 PM PDT by italianquaker
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To: Libloather

And still the Democrats I know insist that Democrats do not want to take ,your guns!


24 posted on 03/25/2021 4:27:48 PM PDT by griswold3
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To: italianquaker

Agreed. I recall a lot of folks on this DB wanting the filibuster to end when the GOP was in control and were flipping out on me when I was suggesting that was not a great idea.

Anyway, in a few weeks I don’t see this rule being part of the Senate.


25 posted on 03/25/2021 4:31:42 PM PDT by hawkaw
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To: Jonny7797

Felons all.


26 posted on 03/25/2021 4:36:37 PM PDT by abbastanza
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To: lodi90; All
Dems could be confiscating guns in blue states right now. Are they?

Actually, yes, they are confiscating guns on a regular basis in California and New York, and New Jersey, Hawaii, to name a few.

They are doing it piecemeal, as expected.

There will not be mass house to house confiscation. It will be done digitally.

That is why they want and need mandatory registration. They have to prove you have it to make you turn it in with a digital state.

27 posted on 03/25/2021 5:07:31 PM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries. )
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To: marktwain

“That is why they want and need mandatory registration. They have to prove you have it to make you turn it in with a digital state.”

Yes. 100%. That’s why it is very important now to swap lots of guns between family and friends, and sell to and buy from complete strangers, all without a background check. While it’s still legal. The goal is to lose traceability, period, without committing a crime. Get 7 layers or more. Tear up previous bills of sale after a year. Forget who you sold to or brought from.

Do it now. Perfectly legal in most states. Definitely legal in FL. Don’t know about NY and CA.


28 posted on 03/25/2021 5:45:50 PM PDT by Basket_of_Deplorables (Convention Of States is our only hope now!)
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To: marktwain

A quick search shows 20 million guns in California. Dems don’t seem to confiscating more than a handful there.

I’m aware of what their tactics will be. The time is not right yet with TX, GA and FL still being battleground states. They’re not going to do something nationally that they haven’t even done is deep blue states. A lot of Democrats like guns, too. They will tread carefully here.

Both the GOP and Dems want the 2A and abortion issues alive to GOTV and fundraise. I’m not going to be played by them.


29 posted on 03/25/2021 5:49:09 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: hawkaw

Agreed. I recall a lot of folks on this DB wanting the filibuster to end when the GOP was in control and were flipping out on me when I was suggesting that was not a great idea.

Anyway, in a few weeks I don’t see this rule being part of the Senate.


How did getting rid of the judicial filabuster work out for Democrats?

Democrats might get 60 Senate votes in the future. We’ll never get 60 conservatives. In the long run no filibuster is definitely more beneficial to the GOP.


30 posted on 03/25/2021 5:57:06 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: shanover

We will see how far the leftist go with this. They may put in place background checks for purchasers at gun shows and then stop.

They’re not stupid. The leftist know they are better off taking a lil bite, then after a period..another little bite and so on.

Going to far to fast could have the opposite outcome than they realized.


31 posted on 03/25/2021 6:24:48 PM PDT by servantboy777
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To: lodi90
A quick search shows 20 million guns in California. Dems don’t seem to confiscating more than a handful there.

What does the number of guns in a state have to do with whether the politicians are confiscating them or not?

What is your definition of confiscating guns?

32 posted on 03/25/2021 8:08:59 PM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries. )
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To: lodi90
Democrats might get 60 Senate votes in the future. We’ll never get 60 conservatives. In the long run no filibuster is definitely more beneficial to the GOP.

Why not? There are more than 30 states mostly controlled by Republicans, now.

We should have 60 Conservative Senators now.

The reason we do not, is the Left's control of the media and cheating the last election.

33 posted on 03/25/2021 8:10:51 PM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries. )
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To: RandFan
"It is so deep and fervent inside the Democratic Party that gun control is the answer."

Naw. It's only a faction of noisy, beastly hags who want to bother human beings.

34 posted on 03/25/2021 8:39:40 PM PDT by familyop
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
"So they are going to pretend they didn’t repeal the filibuster and only temporarily repeal it every time it gets in their way.

That way if the Republicans ever regain control the filibuster will still be in place for the minority party.
"

The Republicans can use the nuclear option to end the filibuster, too, and they will if necessary. They've had an agreement with Democrats. That agreement will end, when Democrats violate it.

And the states have constitutional control of elections. See where this is going?

Georgia Passes Sweeping Election Integrity Reforms, Democrats Hardest Hit
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3945270/posts

Only Democrats have complained about that and many other actions in the states to prevent election fraud. There's no excuse remaining for anyone else to complain about those actions.

35 posted on 03/25/2021 8:52:58 PM PDT by familyop
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To: Mariner

I tend to think if they had the votes they would have done it by now. IMHO, they are doing it to placate their base, on the issue to to try to show they are doing something.


36 posted on 03/25/2021 9:33:55 PM PDT by matt04 ( )
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To: RandFan

Don’t worry! John Roberts will save us!!! /s


37 posted on 03/25/2021 9:35:37 PM PDT by montag813 ("Fallen, fallen, is Babylon the Great")
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To: RandFan

SADLY....The once great “freedom/liberty” nation of the USA Nation Republic appears to be headed into a devastating second civil war. Americans...pray that Lord God Almighty will save this great nation from Orwell’s “Big Brother” enslavement!!!


38 posted on 03/26/2021 12:51:06 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX (Defeat both the Republican (e) & Democrat (e) political parties....Forever!!!)
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To: Jonny7797

This is the hill to sustain a barrage of cheap demagoguery on. Nobody will have to die on it. The political consequences of voting against gun control are non-existent. The political consequences of buckling to the demagoguery barrage are huge.

Gun control has been done to death, and is thoroughly discredited, except in the Washington snow-globe world, where Santa never makes it down the chimney, he’s only just about to.


39 posted on 03/26/2021 2:43:12 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 ("The impossible happens all they time. You just have to believe." Will Robinson)
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To: RandFan

Expect more mass shootings this week and in the coming weeks. As usual the Domestic enemies will utilize the mentally ill to mass shoot people until public opinion against guns is at a fevered pitch.


40 posted on 03/26/2021 3:37:22 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (As long as Hillary Clinton remains free equal justice under the law will never exist in the USA)
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