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Spy firm can monitor YOUR car in real-time and is offering to sell the data it gets to other companies and the US military
DAILY MAIL ^ | 17 March 2021 | HARRIET AL EXANDER

Posted on 03/19/2021 8:08:32 AM PDT by george76

The Ulysses Group says it has real-time access to 15 billion cars worldwide..

They monitor cars through GPS and sensors on equipment such as airbags..

The data may be from car makers and through manufacturers of individual parts..

The Ulysses Group has strong ties to the U.S. military and promotes its capability..

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A South Carolina-based surveillance firm that has sold services to the U.S. military is promoting its ability to provide real-time location information about 15 billion cars every month.

The company, called The Ulysses Group, says it can monitor vehicles in every country in the world, except North Korea and Cuba.

The claims come from a document obtained by the office of U.S. Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Oregon) in which the company has detailed its capabilities. Wyden is investigating companies that sell the data of consumers.

The company says it can track cars through sensors in vehicle parts - either installed by the car company, or by the Original Equipment Manufacturers (OEMs) - the company that provided the components.

The sensors collect information such as airbag and seatbelt status, engine temperature, and location, and then transmit that information either back to the car maker or to third parties.

Aggregator companies also purchase or obtain this data, repackage it, and then sell that data or products based on it to their own clients, Vice News reported on Wednesday.

Clients could include insurance companies, anti-terrorism agencies and the military

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The amount of people who have access to the highly personalized data may surprise many car owners.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia; US: Georgia; US: New York; US: Oregon; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: datalogging; datamining; gps; harrisondeal; hastings; michaelhastings; surveillance; ulysses
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To: Lurkinanloomin

But everything around it does.


21 posted on 03/19/2021 8:43:55 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Voter ID for 2020!! Leftists totalitarian fascists appear to be planning to eradicate conservatives)
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To: george76

We know that more than ever now.

I can no longer find the video from the car driving that sees Hastings speed by and then follows him to the crash site.

Saw that online in near real time through fr


22 posted on 03/19/2021 8:45:46 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Voter ID for 2020!! Leftists totalitarian fascists appear to be planning to eradicate conservatives)
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To: hoagy62

I love my 2000 Cavalier Z24 convertible.


23 posted on 03/19/2021 8:47:35 AM PDT by Senormechanico
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To: BereanBrain

I dont think they can be ripped out


24 posted on 03/19/2021 8:48:44 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Voter ID for 2020!! Leftists totalitarian fascists appear to be planning to eradicate conservatives)
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To: george76

Do I have to worry about my 57 Chevy Bel Air?


25 posted on 03/19/2021 8:51:59 AM PDT by DaxtonBrown
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To: george76

A couple of river authority spies just passed by logging in some sort of info on boat docks. It never ends. They’re everywhere! They’re everywhere!


26 posted on 03/19/2021 8:52:09 AM PDT by bgill (Which came first, Covid-19 or Gates and Fauci's mRNA-1273 Moderna vax?)
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To: george76

Another, good reason to keep my 2007 Ridgeline and my wife’s 2005 Lexus.

One heir has a 21 year old SUV and another one has an OJ Simpson Bronco.

College GKs have similar older vehicles.

Zip tracking gear. Our fast passes are stored in Aluminum pouches.


27 posted on 03/19/2021 8:52:20 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ("The Covid 19 Circus has run out of acts. It’s time to reopen. It is past time! It’s long overdue! ")
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To: bgill
Next they’ll be installing data collection from your toilet.

Metropolitan sewage systems already have chemical "sniffers" that can trace back to your toilet.

28 posted on 03/19/2021 8:54:54 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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To: george76

The get it from the manufacturers who sell it them. It’s pretty much the wild west in the US.

To its credit, the EU at least gives some passing interest in the privacy and data protection of its citizens. The US Congress couldn’t give a a hoot about what data corporations are capture on customers much less what those companies are doing with that data.

Have you ever looked at the size of the file that gets dumped by your car when you take it in for service? The ECU captures an huge number of data points and logs that data for an unknown period of time. That log file is enormous. What’s in it? No one but the manufacturer knows. One thing is certain, data mining is growing revenue stream for auto manufacturers very much not unlike how Google mines your web traffic.


29 posted on 03/19/2021 8:55:05 AM PDT by ScubaDiver (Reddit refugee.)
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To: george76

re: “They monitor cars through GPS and sensors on equipment such as airbags..”

Lying ... unless you subscribe to a ‘service’ the cellphone companies ain’t going to let you send data thru their networks for free ...


30 posted on 03/19/2021 8:57:10 AM PDT by _Jim (Save babies)
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To: BereanBrain
On the other hand... When I'm just going about my innocuous business, why not allow anyone interested to track me? For now.

The idea is, by making it easy for any ah "interested" parties to track you, you lull them into a false sense of security that they have a pretty good handle on this dofus.

Now you need to be aware of how you're being nominally tracked. That way if you want or need to be "off grid" for whatever reason, you have the knowledge and means to accomplish that.

The upshot is, you never want anyone watching to know or suspect that you're anything other than what you appear to be - just another drone doing his/her thing. If you look like an interesting case, someone that is harder to collect info on, then you might become the object of more sophisticated attention. Attention you cannot so easily shake off if/when you need to.

31 posted on 03/19/2021 8:58:49 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Biden/Harris - illegitimate and everyone knows it.)
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To: Grampa Dave

A staffer and close family friend of Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp died in a tragic car wreck.., hours after the governor called for a signature audit of 2020 election votes..

20-year-old Harrison Deal, an aide to Sen. Kelly Loeffler, former intern to Sen. David Perdue and boyfriend of Kemp’s daughter Lucy, was the only person who died in a fiery explosion.. .

Witnesses reportedly heard explosions from the crash over a mile away....engine block ejected 50-60 yards away. That’s not an accident. That’s a car bomb disguised as an accident.

Not a crash. The Deep State is playing for keeps.

Harrison Deal was a young aspiring Georgia political figure. In his very young life, .. had sights set on becoming a political figure in his own right..

https://www.newswars.com/deep-state-threat-gov-kemp-daughters-boyfriend-killed-in-fiery-explosive-wreck/


32 posted on 03/19/2021 8:59:58 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: BereanBrain

The data-logging capability of most ECUs is robust. Even if you disable the OTA transmission of that data, whenever the car is taken in for service, the first thing they do is to dump that data. This is all done under the pretext that they’re verifying the VIN and warranty information and analyzing engine and powertrain performance.

But in the US (and as of this writing), they’re free to do with that data anything they like.


33 posted on 03/19/2021 9:01:33 AM PDT by ScubaDiver (Reddit refugee.)
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To: BereanBrain

They can track me going from home to Dr or grocery store, Hubby may add a trip to Lowes, had to put in new garbage disposal. Only other place we go is the Navy base for Meds.

Been sick from a Meniere’s attack, lost my hearing from the drug the ENT used to treat it, This is attack 2, 1st 1 got half my haring. Fell in the hall between him and Imaging Center, never got reported, He is 80, NO one offered to assist lifting me, I’m not fat either, then got hit with a Gastropresis bout. Had to get a Phenergan shot to stop puking. BS went crazy from not eating. Still sick at stomach, most likely the imbalance in the ears from Meniere’s, a form of Vertigo. Still can’t hear.

Hey doctors do us all a favor use ZOOM FOR TELEMED CALLS, WITH A HEADSET WITH A MIKE. MARK YOUR COMPUTER SCREEN HEARING IMPARIED PATIENT! COULDN’T HEAR A WORD YOU SAID!


34 posted on 03/19/2021 9:11:00 AM PDT by GailA (Constitution vs evil Treasonous political Apparatchiks)
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To: _Jim

Garbage article. 99% of all those vehicles they would have to have direct hard wired acess to the vehicle.


35 posted on 03/19/2021 9:20:57 AM PDT by BiglyCommentary
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Dittos. I put $5,000 into a Jasper engine for my high-mileage but “dumb” Ford SUV, because it has no Internet link to anywhere.

Read a little while ago that a Tesla cannot be driven without permission from the cloud. If you’re out of cellphone range the thing is a brick.


36 posted on 03/19/2021 9:22:37 AM PDT by Chad C. Mulligan (Deplorably Neanderthal)
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To: george76

Let’s see ‘em find my 98 GMC K2500, or 2003 Subaru Outback, or 2007 Acura MDX.....


37 posted on 03/19/2021 9:23:38 AM PDT by G Larry (Authority is vested in those to whom it applies.)
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To: Chad C. Mulligan

“Read a little while ago that a Tesla cannot be driven without permission from the cloud. If you’re out of cellphone range the thing is a brick”

Source, please ...


38 posted on 03/19/2021 9:33:37 AM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: GailA

So sorry to read about a fellow FReeper having so many health issues! Prayed for you...


39 posted on 03/19/2021 9:42:27 AM PDT by free-in-nyc
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To: george76

Makes me feel like a tagged Great White Shark... cruising the shoreline, minding my own business while that nuisance tattle-tale tag is reporting my course, speed and what I had for breakfast to some LEO satellite.


40 posted on 03/19/2021 9:46:58 AM PDT by Tallguy
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