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Disturbing Footage — 65 year-old Texas woman tackled and arrested for not wearing mask…
https://citizenfreepress.com ^ | Posted by Kane on March 15, 2021 3:51 am

Posted on 03/15/2021 6:54:38 AM PDT by Red Badger

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To: Gritty

Perfect!!!


61 posted on 03/15/2021 8:50:19 AM PDT by realcleanguy
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To: no-s
'Furthermore they are a public corporation, not a private retail establishment, so they can't hide behind private property as a perfect shield against any misfeasance...'

Dude, if you really believe this, you have an even poorer understanding of property laws than I thought you did. You are, simply stated, absolutely clueless. Clueless.

Don't take my word for it, Findlawblog has already explained it below...

No Shirt, No Mask, No Service?

Can a commercial establishment legally refuse to let you in the door if you're not wearing a protective face mask? Or ask you to leave if you're already inside?

Absolutely. You've probably seen many a sign saying, "No shirt, no shoes, no service." As long as stores aren't violating the federal Civil Rights Act by singling out a class of people for exclusion, their property is private property.

They can impose dress rules and behavioral rules. They can ask you to leave, or kick you out, just because they don't like your looks — as long as they're not violating the Civil Rights Act, that is.

Wait until you find out retail establishments can refuse to serve people who are wearing the wrong sports cap. You're gonna freak out.

62 posted on 03/15/2021 8:51:23 AM PDT by ScubaDiver (Reddit refugee.)
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To: Red Badger

Yes, insane but on her part.

The bank’s rules. Everyone else was wearing a mask. She was asked to leave by the bank. She was asked to leave by the cop. She was then trespassing on private property. She didn’t and is surprised she was handcuffed and escorted out.

She could have come back later to the drive thru without the rig. Seems she intentionally caused the scene.


63 posted on 03/15/2021 8:51:40 AM PDT by bgill (Which came first, Covid-19 or Gates and Fauci's mRNA-1273 Moderna vax?)
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64 posted on 03/15/2021 9:14:38 AM PDT by PMAS (Vote with your wallets, there are 80 million of us - No Amazon, No Chy-Na made )
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To: Red Badger

A “Karen” went looking for trouble and found it.


65 posted on 03/15/2021 9:23:24 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: Red Badger

Fake News.

Being a false and untrue headline.


66 posted on 03/15/2021 9:24:29 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Trump is a deposed Pres. in exile. America is truly a banana republic. Our govt. has been overthrown)
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To: rockrr

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See my tagline


67 posted on 03/15/2021 9:24:51 AM PDT by PMAS (Vote with your wallets, there are 80 million of us - No Amazon, No Chy-Na made )
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To: Red Badger

I thought Texas dropped the mask mandate?


68 posted on 03/15/2021 9:28:11 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Rebelbase

Yes they did, but they allowed private entities to keep it if they so wished..............


69 posted on 03/15/2021 9:31:35 AM PDT by Red Badger ("We've always been at war with Climate Change, Winston."..............................)
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To: Manly Warrior

Absolutely. I think you are right on the money and very well explained.

They denied her access to her own “personal property”. Even a landlord cannot do this during an eviction in any state. They have to allow access under any and all conditions to retrieve “personal property”. Or they have to remove it from being locked up and present it outside where the owner of this personal property can retrieve it.

If this bank chose not to accommodate her inside they are required to accommodate her outside. But they cannot refuse access to her own personal property. Her property is not theirs to claim as “private property”. Be like a parking garage denying access to retrieve your personal car based solely on “private property” rights. Your car is not their property.


70 posted on 03/15/2021 9:42:06 AM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: hank ernade

The officer explains it perfectly - the uproar here seems to be about an old lady being roughed and cuffed.

That’s what happens when you refuse to comply with a police instruction then resist - that had nothing to do with the bank.

The woman could have-
A. donned a mask (received her property)
B. walked up to the teller window (received her property)

Denying her access to the lobby was not denying her access to her property.

I was raised by cops and know what a-holes they can be, but when they say move along and you give them guff, don’t complain when you get read the riot act.


71 posted on 03/15/2021 10:16:57 AM PDT by hank ernade (armchair macho bravado EverTrumper)
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To: Red Badger; All

The headline is a lie.

She was arrested for trespassing and refusing an order to vacate.

Her behavior was that of a welfare ghetto queen.


72 posted on 03/15/2021 10:23:59 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: nevergore
However, the edict from the Governor states that individual businesses can still require masks.

IMO, he should have left that out - a complete ban on mandated mask-wearing, and take the "So sue me." attitude. How many businesses would go to court over that?

That's the way the Democrats would have played it.

73 posted on 03/15/2021 10:40:45 AM PDT by Oatka
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To: Red Badger

I choose to not wear a mask most of the time. If a business I wish to frequent requires it, I wear it. The cop did not overreact. He tried to get her to leave but she refused. She then refused to submit to arrest. Is that grounds for being left alone now? We have seen this from leftists using older people to create police issues, with similar protest from the videos. By the way, I was in Galveston this weekend. Spring Breakers everywhere. Most everywhere is still requiring masks in the city.


74 posted on 03/15/2021 10:42:55 AM PDT by jdub (A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government.)
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To: DouglasKC

Sorry, but you are the one missing the point.

When you are asked to leave, whether you have broken a law or whether you need a bath, does not matter. You have committed trespass at the instant you refuse to leave.

Look up trespass law in your state and see if it mentions masks, no smoking, shoes, shirts or whatever.

The very fact that you do not leave is the commission of the crime of trespass and justifies calling the cops.

At that point, the cops have no choice in the matter.

I admit that in the days of my youth, the cop would often talk the situation down and offer to let you go peacefully but in this day and time most people are fed up with people that want to cram their beliefs up your nose.

Look up the law in your state.


75 posted on 03/15/2021 11:31:38 AM PDT by old curmudgeon
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To: old curmudgeon

Until you can’t even get food anymore. Stand up for your rights. I understand property rights, but tbere also has to be an ability for people to eat without their rights being trampled.


76 posted on 03/15/2021 11:43:43 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: ScubaDiver
hey, the last word on this has yet to be settled. You keep focusing past what I wrote, here's something you may have missed: "Trying to reframe it as trespass in a private business is what the bank (and the police too) would like, but it doesn't make it right."

I'm essentially making the argument that it's not moral, and furthermore capricious and arbitrary to frame a trespass out of this. It may be she didn't have the finesse or $$$ so as to evade the framing of trespass, but the moral argument here is if the bank uses an arbitrary and capricious rule to mobilize the law to cast her as an criminal offender, it's disregarding the duty to treat with her fairly as it is holding her private property (her money, remember?). It's not a hair salon or a supermarket, it's a bank.

77 posted on 03/15/2021 3:51:48 PM PDT by no-s (Soap box, ballot box, jury box, cartridge box...you know how it goes...)
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