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Electric Vehicles Are the U.S. Auto Industry’s Future—If Dealers Can Figure Out How to Sell Them
The Wall Street Journal ^ | March 7, 2021 | Nora Naughton |

Posted on 03/07/2021 8:08:35 PM PST by MinorityRepublican

Car dealer Brad Sowers is spending money to prepare for the coming wave of new electric models from General Motors Co. He is installing charging stations, upgrading service bays and retraining staff at his St. Louis-area dealership to handle the technology-packed vehicles.

But when he considers how many plug-in Chevy Bolts he sold last year—nine, out of the nearly 4,000 Chevrolets sold at his Missouri dealerships—it gives him pause.

“The consumer in the middle of America just isn’t there yet,” when it comes to switching to electric vehicles, he said, citing the long distances many of his customers drive daily and a lack of charging infrastructure outside major cities.

As auto executives and investors buzz about the coming age of the electric car, many dealers say they are struggling to square that enthusiasm with the reality today on new-car sales lots, where last year battery-powered vehicles made up fewer than 2% of U.S. auto sales.

Most consumers who come to showrooms aren’t shopping for electric cars, and with gasoline prices relatively low, even hybrid models can be a tough sell, dealers and industry analysts say.

Auto makers are moving aggressively to expand their electric-vehicle offerings with dozens of new models set to arrive in coming years. Some like GM are setting firm targets for when they plan to phase out gas-powered cars entirely.

(Excerpt) Read more at wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: autonomousvehicles; chatforum; elonmusk; ev; fakenews; fastcharging; fossilfuelforever; tesla; v8powerbaby
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten

“Right now I think the use case for EVs is as a second or third car for affluent commuters who live in suburban areas and have a regular 40-60 mile daily commute. “

Sounds like a FIRST car! And not just for the affluent.


281 posted on 03/08/2021 11:00:28 AM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: Secret Agent Man

” but my point was there’s only so much annual capability of lithium battery production “

What is that limit?


282 posted on 03/08/2021 11:01:35 AM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: TexasGator

The problems of yesteryear was the time required to recharge the batteries and limited range, same as today. At least they didn’t have Lithium-Ion batteries to worry about.


283 posted on 03/08/2021 11:04:25 AM PST by wjcsux (RIP Rush Limbaugh 12 Jan 1951- 17 Feb 2021. We really miss you. 😢)
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten

Once the states tax EVs at the same cost per mile equivalent to what ICE drivers pay in gasoline taxes and end the EV subsidies ,EVs will be much less attractive.

EVs are like obamacare;a boondoggle pushed by elitists in government.


284 posted on 03/08/2021 11:06:49 AM PST by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: Secret Agent Man

“there is no major recycling efforts in place for mineral recovery from old batteries, “

WRONG!

And that need has been delayed as most degraded batteries now go to Russia and Ukraine.


285 posted on 03/08/2021 11:07:08 AM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: wjcsux

“The problems of yesteryear was the time required to recharge the batteries and limited range, same as today. “

No facts presented. Your hypothesis is rejected.


286 posted on 03/08/2021 11:08:49 AM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: TexasGator

Guess you have your reasons to lie. But I think you hurt your case by doing it.


287 posted on 03/08/2021 11:10:11 AM PST by mrsmith (US MEDIA: " Every 'White' cop is a criminal! And all the 'non-white' criminals saints!")
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To: cyclotic

“They don’t work for golf carts in a large area where travel of several miles is expected.”

Golf carts have a range of about 25 miles. Case closed.


288 posted on 03/08/2021 11:12:53 AM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: mrsmith

“Guess you have your reasons to lie. But I think you hurt your case by doing it.”

I don’t lie. Stick with the facts.


289 posted on 03/08/2021 11:14:33 AM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: MinorityRepublican

One of the problems is lithium mining.
Not an econut but it is VERY destructive.
And charging time.
Big positive is the engines run cleaner and are mechanically simpler.


290 posted on 03/08/2021 11:15:30 AM PST by ZULU (Impeach John Roberts for corruption. SOROS IS "SPARTACUS" BOOKER'S LANISTA.)
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To: TexasGator

How much EV stock do you own or in what other investment do you anticipate making a lot of money because of the government push for EV?


291 posted on 03/08/2021 11:50:00 AM PST by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: TexasGator

I don’t live there but the last time I drove through, the vast majority of people drove around on their propane powered golf carts and no one seemed to have battery carts.

But, I guess you know more than them so if you’d like, I can get you an address where you can stand on the town square and call them stupid.


292 posted on 03/08/2021 11:56:09 AM PST by cyclotic (Live your life in such a way that they hate you as much as they hated Rush Limbaugh)
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To: cyclotic
I hate econobox cars. Had them in the past, nothing but trouble. Besides the puny torque and speed, the mechanicals need constant maintenance. As for my EV, it's very fast off the line and quick to respond. I've gone on 200 mile trips without problems. Quiet, very low maintenance other than tires and wipers. Regenerative braking saves on brakes and replenishes the batteries. I don't worry about resale value, as I generally keep my cars for 20 to 25 years and get full value from them. My truck is 20, my sports car is 25. I maintain them, and have rebuilt my engines myself on other cars I had. As we drive less than 10 miles a day, our EV is perfect for errands around the city. We don't have to wait in lines at a gas station, and simply charge it every couple weeks at home. The ICE cars are more problematic, having to deal with ethanol gas that goes bad and fouls the fuel injectors, not to mention the engine tuneups and oil changes. My brother-in-law has a Ford ICE truck and has paid out tens of thousands in mechanical repairs over the last 20 years, buying that was a bad bet for him.

One of my daughters has a hybrid car, it's 14 years old and still drives like new. She replaced the batteries a few years ago and it cost her only $1500. She's extremely happy with the low maintenance costs, having driven it multiple times between California, Kansas, Iowa and Texas.

I think the fighting between ICE and EV camps is destructive and full of erroneous bias. There is room for both types of cars. As I said, I think it will end up a three-to-one ratio of ICE and EV vehicles.

293 posted on 03/08/2021 11:59:39 AM PST by roadcat
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To: roadcat

So quick question. At less than 10 miles a day, does it matter at all at the end of the day what you drive?

I tend to be cheap when it comes to cars. I drive them till they die. Never sold one for more than $1000. I also don’t do preventative maintenance. Brakes start to squeal or pulse, then I change them. Doesn’t start-Time for a new battery and not before.

My last car got 300,000 miles and the only repairs were brakes and tires.

That said, I truly don’t see the benefit of an EV when you don’t drive much. I also don’t see the benefit of any sort of new car when you don’t drive much.

You can make a personal preference argument but there is absolutely no economic argument for an EV or a new ICE car with that little mileage.

I drive a company car. it’s two years old with 74000 miles.


294 posted on 03/08/2021 12:15:04 PM PST by cyclotic (Live your life in such a way that they hate you as much as they hated Rush Limbaugh)
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To: mrsmith

You lose on both counts. I do not have subsidized electricity and CA charges up to an additional $175 dollars annually with registration fees in lieu of gas taxes.


295 posted on 03/08/2021 12:23:34 PM PST by pluvmantelo (Pallets of bricks for the street thugs, pallets of ballots for the suite thugs)
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To: TexasGator

dont recall

but there’s a good video out there that did discuss it


296 posted on 03/08/2021 12:32:30 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: TexasGator

who in america has major recycling/recovery li-ion plants running? its something that isn’t highlighted and the greenies would be touting it.

at present all the pieces i’ve seen discussing it have generally said its too cost prohibitive, currently.


297 posted on 03/08/2021 12:35:46 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: hoosierham

“How much EV stock do you own or in what other investment do you anticipate making a lot of money”

My core holdings include:

ETN
ATRI
CVX
JPM
PNC
CSX
CNI
INTEL
CISCO
EQR
CLI
VZ

I had some Tesla which I posted at the time my buy and sell.


298 posted on 03/08/2021 12:42:44 PM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: TexasGator

...then rent a car when you get there.


299 posted on 03/08/2021 12:43:15 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: cyclotic

“I don’t live there but the last time I drove through, the vast majority of people drove around on their propane powered golf carts and no one seemed to have battery carts.”

Which country are you referring to?


300 posted on 03/08/2021 12:45:00 PM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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