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Gunnison's Black Canyon: The Flood Solves Mysterious Missing Time
Institute for Creation Research ^ | 2-26-21 | Brian Thomas, Ph.D., and Tim Clarey, Ph.D.

Posted on 02/26/2021 10:51:24 AM PST by fishtank

Gunnison's Black Canyon: The Flood Solves Mysterious Missing Time

2-26-2021

Brian Thomas, Ph.D., and Tim Clarey, Ph.D.

The Gunnison River winds westward from the Colorado Rocky Mountains through dry and dramatic landscapes. Morning sunlight enlivens Colorado’s tallest cliff, the stunning Painted Wall, found in Black Canyon of the Gunnison National Park (Figure 1). Lookout points along the park’s south rim road permit people to peer down into the deep canyon where birds fly far below and the Gunnison River roars in the distant depths (Figure 2).

But Black Canyon does more than drop jaws. It conceals mysteries, including supposedly lost eons of time.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: agenda; creation; flood; genesis; kook
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1 posted on 02/26/2021 10:51:24 AM PST by fishtank
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To: fishtank

From the article:

“The park signage itself points out another mystery that a thousands-of-years age assignment would solve. A sign titled “The Great Unconformity” says:

The thin, light tan layer you see on the canyon rim is Entrada Sandstone, a mere 165 to 170 million years old. The rock immediately below it was formed in the Precambrian period and is about 1¾ billion years old. More than a billion years is absent from the geologic record of Black Canyon!

What would a billion years of erosion do to the top of this basement rock?4 Erosion carves valleys between mountains and gullies or canyons between hills. But the top of the basement rock just beneath the Jurassic Entrada Sandstone is perfectly flat!5 It looks like not even one year elapsed between these features.”


2 posted on 02/26/2021 10:52:15 AM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism. )
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To: fishtank

Um, no. It takes some serious mental gymnastics to look at geologic processes that obviously took great ages of time and say that this is evidence of a flood a few thousand years ago.


3 posted on 02/26/2021 11:14:59 AM PST by CtBigPat (The period of Crisis is ending. Now comes Normalization.)
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To: fishtank

Cherry picking isn’t proof. Still have to explain most of the planet, where “high energy event” would have destroyed, not made, delicate structures not possible in a short time. There may have been a localized high energy event that explains that location, but doesn’t translate to explaining everything.

A 10,000 Earth would require most large-structure events occur within ~3,000 year timeframe - including fossil & soil & ice layering, continental drift, and fragile cave structures. Also requires all stars be under 10,000 light years distant, meaning what we see couldn’t fit (much less match red shift & other observation artifacts).

Genesis portrays creation in about 3 pages articulated for the scientific understanding of goat herders, not 21st Century understanding of quantum mechanics and cosmology. Trying to force modern knowledge into that requires concluding God is a liar, showing us things to convince us of what isn’t true.

Humility matters. We weren’t there; our understanding is incomplete. Fair to view what is, and make sensible conclusions - knowing we may be wrong in interpreting both objective reality and scripture.


4 posted on 02/26/2021 11:34:07 AM PST by ctdonath2 (Interesting how those so interested in workERS are so disinterested in workING.)
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To: fishtank

Fascinating, just fascinating...filed.


5 posted on 02/26/2021 11:36:19 AM PST by yoe (President Trump works for We The People - not China as Biden has and will.)
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To: fishtank

I’ve camped and fished down in there, amazing place.

I’d love to hear a panel of experts debate the premise of the article.


6 posted on 02/26/2021 11:50:13 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (The Republican Party is dead. Long live the MAGA Party.)
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To: fishtank
The thin, light tan layer you see on the canyon rim is Entrada Sandstone, a mere 165 to 170 million years old. The rock immediately below it was formed in the Precambrian period and is about 1¾ billion years old. More than a billion years is absent from the geologic record of Black Canyon!

So the Great Flood occurred 165-170 million years ago, and (among other things) wiped away strata that had been laid down over a period of more than a billion years.

Doesn't sound very Biblical...

Regards,

7 posted on 02/26/2021 11:54:09 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: fishtank

Thank you for posting this =o)

SDG
To Him alone the GLORY


8 posted on 02/26/2021 11:56:28 AM PST by SheepWhisperer (My enemy saw me on my knees, head bowed and thought they had won until I rose up and said Amen!)
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To: alexander_busek

So the Great Flood occurred 165-170 million years ago, and (among other things) wiped away strata that had been laid down over a period of more than a billion years.

Doesn’t sound very Biblical...
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The Biblical theory is unproven.

The claim you make is however, completely off base. Some reading on the subject would be a good idea.


9 posted on 02/26/2021 12:12:40 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (The Republican Party is dead. Long live the MAGA Party.)
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To: SaxxonWoods
The claim you make is however, completely off base. Some reading on the subject would be a good idea.

I made no "claim."

Rather, that was merely my paraphrasing of the article's claim.

Regards,

10 posted on 02/26/2021 12:31:08 PM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: fishtank

During hurricane Irene, I witnessed rivers that were shallow deepen by 8 to 10 feet. Boulders weighing tons flowing downstream and being planted in what used to be farmers fields. Cement and steel bridges blown apart as if a bomb had gone off and a stream 6 feet wide at its narrowest point now doubled.

All over night. Can you imagine what 40 days and 40 nights of rain and water could do?


11 posted on 02/26/2021 12:50:48 PM PST by lucky american (Progressives are attac Iking our rights and y'all will sit there and take it.)
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To: fishtank

In 1961, my great uncle packed my family and his into a 1953 Studebaker station wagon and then took us on a tour of Black Canyon. As we drove along a dirt road paralleling the Gunnison River, he pointed out the foundations of what would become the Blue Mesa Dam. As we drove on, he explained that all of our surroundings—the beautiful canyon along with the river, with its whitewater rapids—would soon be underwater.

When I returned in 1967, my uncle still had his Studebaker but the road over which we had driven on that summer day in 1961 was now at the bottom of the Blue Mesa Reservoir.


12 posted on 02/26/2021 1:20:37 PM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: fishtank
The-Next-End-of-the-World
13 posted on 02/26/2021 1:21:12 PM PST by null and void (We, the MSM, say what news you can see, & what you can Not See, don't you dare call us Not-Sees)
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To: fishtank

Very interesting.


14 posted on 02/26/2021 2:33:09 PM PST by Slyfox (Not my circus, not my monkeys )
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To: fishtank

A billion years ago there was no land as we know it now and the parts above the shallow seas was devoid of life and collected (we think) in one giant mass somewhere close to the equator. All the continents and mountains formed much later so in all that rearrangement and folding it’s quite possible old and young rock got relocated together.


15 posted on 02/26/2021 2:35:41 PM PST by JeanLM (Obama proved melanin is just enough to win elections Trump proves being good is not enough..)
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I've did research on this subject and conclude -
(1)The earth can be million/billions(?) of years old.
(2)Noahs Flood was about 4500 years ago.
(3)The Bible is correct.
Food for thought.
16 posted on 02/26/2021 2:41:18 PM PST by BipolarBob (Biden/Harris - the regime our Founding fathers warned us about.)
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To: T O; fishtank; CtBigPat; ctdonath2; SaxxonWoods; SheepWhisperer; lucky american; Fiji Hill; ...
This man has proved that creation is true. The Young Age of the Earth (1996) *Please note Youtube for some reason have altered/lessened the quality of this video for the first 22 minutes 50 secs, after that it returns to 720p 60fps.

Dr Robert Gentry: Radio-Polonium Halos

There are many study's by Dr. Robert Gentry

In simple logic, this man proves evolution is wrong, and creation is true.

17 posted on 02/26/2021 2:51:49 PM PST by MAAG (Tetelestai, paid in full. You are as righteous as God is. Double jeopardy is forbidden.)
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To: MAAG

The stars we see don’t fit in a young universe.


18 posted on 02/26/2021 4:25:59 PM PST by ctdonath2 (Interesting how those so interested in workERS are so disinterested in workING.)
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To: fishtank

thx


19 posted on 02/26/2021 4:44:29 PM PST by xenia ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." George Orwell)
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To: Fiji Hill

In 1961 I lived right on the banks of the Gunnison just outside the tiny town of Austin. Right next to a one lane bridge. It was a formative time in my life and I remember that river well.


20 posted on 02/26/2021 5:15:02 PM PST by tinamina
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