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China Refuses to Give WHO Raw Data on Early Covid-19 Cases
Wall Street Journal ^ | February 12, 2021 | Jeremy Page and Drew Hinshaw

Posted on 02/12/2021 9:56:30 AM PST by karpov

BEIJING—Chinese authorities refused to provide World Health Organization investigators with raw, personalized data on early Covid-19 cases that could help them determine how and when the coronavirus first began to spread in China, according to WHO investigators who described heated exchanges over the lack of detail.

The Chinese authorities turned down requests to provide such data on 174 cases of Covid-19 that they have identified from the early phase of the outbreak in the Chinese city of Wuhan in December 2019. The investigators are part of a WHO team that this week completed a monthlong mission in China aimed at determining the origins of the pandemic.

Chinese officials and scientists provided their own extensive summaries and analysis of data on the cases, said the WHO team members. They also supplied aggregated data and analysis on retrospective searches through medical records in the months before the Wuhan outbreak was identified, saying that they had found no evidence of the virus.

But the WHO team wasn’t allowed to view the raw underlying data on those retrospective studies, which could allow them to conduct their own analysis on how early and how extensively the virus began to spread in China, the team members said. Member states typically provide such data as part of WHO investigations, said team members.

“They showed us a couple of examples, but that’s not the same as doing all of them, which is standard epidemiological investigation,” said Dominic Dwyer, an Australian microbiologist on the WHO team. “So then, you know, the interpretation of that data becomes more limited from our point of view, although the other side might see it as being quite good.”

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: covid; who; wuflu; wuhanflu
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Full article. I don't know the origin of covid. But if you speculate that it came from a Wuhan lab, Big Tech will try to cancel you for alleged misinformation.
1 posted on 02/12/2021 9:56:30 AM PST by karpov
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To: karpov

China learned how to say NO from the US election officials.


2 posted on 02/12/2021 9:59:53 AM PST by heshtesh
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To: karpov

Aaaahhhhh.....

Using the old Cuomo defense.


3 posted on 02/12/2021 10:02:34 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer”)
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To: karpov

So, it looks like China is still trying to cover up its complicity in allowing the outbreak to become a pandemic.

When the outbreak occurred, China’s first action was to try to silence the doctors who discovered that something unusual was going on. At this crucial time, they should have been doing everything they could to contain the outbreak.

Of course, trying to hide the fact that there is a problem does not make the problem go away.

So it is not surprising that the Chicoms don’t want anyone looking at the raw data. It could reveal just how complicit the Chicom government was in allowing SARS-CoV-2 to reach pandemic status.


4 posted on 02/12/2021 10:05:57 AM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org)
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To: karpov

US now has the same exact type of government.


5 posted on 02/12/2021 10:07:33 AM PST by NoLibZone (Any Guard in DC are traitors. I don't pray/hope for their safety.They passed the test and will shoot)
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To: All

A BIDEN WIN IS AN AWARD TO CHINA FOR INVADING US USING COVID 19

Every time an American looked at an item for where it was made in it came from China. Now China’s reliance making everything was being threatened by a change in leadership in America which was a major consumer of those products. When Americans hailed their leaders decision to make many of them in their country US. Their politburo worried.

Worse yet opponents to the Chinese regime in power had its citizens protesting its policies , as in Hong Kong, since that change in American leadership wave the American flag and present Trump’s name when doing so. All of which presented those in power the need to destroy that leader Donald Trump.

Would a runaway plague created by a nation which could threaten populations of an enemy cause them to react by demanding extreme restriction of movement by its population to prevent its spread ? Thus wind up fragmenting its economy and create defeat for that leader’s upcoming election.When they released it that was the CCP intention but it got away from them and went world wide


6 posted on 02/12/2021 10:34:41 AM PST by mosesdapoet (mosesdapoet aka L.J.Keslin posting here for the record hoping somebody might read and pass around)
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To: karpov

Chinese interference in the 2020 election and releasing the Covid-19 on America and on to the rest of the world is clearly an act of war. Problem is, China owns Joe Biden and way too many politicians in DC. Now what?


7 posted on 02/12/2021 10:50:46 AM PST by drypowder
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To: karpov; COUNTrecount; Nowhere Man; FightThePower!; C. Edmund Wright; jacob allen; Travis McGee; ...
Doubleplus canceled if you remind people that St. Fauci The Divine used US taxpayer funds to sponsor "addition of function" research to the corona virus at the Wuhan lab, because such research is illegal within these United States.

How else does a corona virus have HIV spike proteins? Did a tiny AIDS Fairy tap each of those spikes with a magic protein wand, or did the tiny AIDS Fairy merely pay to have the Chinese add the RNA in the COVID virus that codes for HIV spike proteins?

Bring Out Your Dead & Nut-Job Conspiracy pings

Post to me or FReep mail to be on/off the Bring Out Your Dead ping list.

The purpose of the “Bring Out Your Dead” ping list (formerly the “Ebola” ping list) is very early warning of emerging pandemics, as such it has a high false positive rate.

The false positive rate was 100%.

At some point we may well have a high mortality pandemic, and likely as not the “Bring Out Your Dead” threads will miss the beginning entirely.

*sigh* Such is life, and death...

Quarantine the sick. Protect the vulnerable. Free everyone else.

The AIDS Fairy:


8 posted on 02/12/2021 11:08:36 AM PST by null and void (We're the MSM, we decide what news you can see, and what you can not see, but don't call us Not Sees)
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To: karpov

Even Bill Maher’s show on HBO had a couple of evolutionary biologists on who discussed how it likely escaped from a lab because the characteristics of it don’t align with what we normally see in a naturally occurring virus: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMGWLLDSA3c

Bill Maher is definitely not a right-wing conspiracy nut by any stretch. But he does sometimes put on his thinking cap and talk some sense to the left. Seems a lot of people are beginning to wake up to the fact that China lied to everyone from the start and that those lies cost a lot of lives. Next question is: what are we (the western world) going to do about it. What we SHOULD be doing is working to economically isolate China so it can die a well deserved economic and political death.


9 posted on 02/12/2021 11:24:26 AM PST by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: null and void

Precisely


10 posted on 02/12/2021 11:28:00 AM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: null and void

Surprise, surprise. Not.

I suspect, what’s going to be happening in the next five-to-ten years will take some people by surprise, some will have been expecting it and others may possibly be glad they don’t have to relive the horrors or Nazi Germany or Stalinist Russia.

We were warned for 70 years or longer. It’s here. And a lot of those who think they are the Elite will find that they, too, are nothing more than “useful idiots.”

‘Face

:o|


11 posted on 02/12/2021 11:34:18 AM PST by Monkey Face (Insisting on your rights without acknowledging your responsibilities isn't freedom it's adolescence.)
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To: null and void

As time goes on, I’m hoping more and more people realize what a huge LIE all of this has been.

Yes, it’s making people sick, but quarantine for the HEALTHY and those with no risk factors was just stupid.

I want my YEAR back! LIBERATE WISCONSIN! LIBERATE AMERICA!


12 posted on 02/12/2021 11:47:25 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: karpov

Occam’s razor tells us it was an accident in the Wuhan lab. The behaviour of China tells us they know that’s the case, but they are too embarrassed to admit it. Reparations will eventually be made - and will settle the huge imbalance of trade between China and the rest of the world.

The UK’s 1978 accidental release of smallpox paints a disturbing picture of what likely happened in Wuhan - but the outcome was very different here.

Two links if this is new to you, featuring the WHO, vaccines, quarantine and lockdowns:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1978_smallpox_outbreak_in_the_United_Kingdom

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-45101091


13 posted on 02/12/2021 11:50:27 AM PST by LordOddsocks
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To: null and void

Ahem... I believe St.Fauci The Devine is misspelled. “St. FauXi The Diabolical” is the correct spelling.


14 posted on 02/12/2021 11:53:36 AM PST by little jeremiah (Thirst for truth is the most valuable possession and no one can take it away from you.)
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To: karpov

But they can say definitively that it did NOT come from a lab.


15 posted on 02/12/2021 11:55:05 AM PST by mykroar (God speed, President Trump)
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To: little jeremiah

Could be...


16 posted on 02/12/2021 11:58:00 AM PST by null and void (We're the MSM, we decide what news you can see, and what you can not see, but don't call us Not Sees)
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To: Monkey Face

I suspect, what’s going to be happening in the next five-to-ten years will take some people by surprise, some will have been expecting it and others may possibly be glad they don’t have to relive the horrors or Nazi Germany or Stalinist Russia.

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Ha, won’t take years. Months is all. Now pedal to the metal tyranny, if they manage to keep the stolen election. Which I doubt they will. The large majority of Americans do not want this and did not vote for it.


17 posted on 02/12/2021 12:32:07 PM PST by little jeremiah (Thirst for truth is the most valuable possession and no one can take it away from you.)
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To: karpov; null and void

Wait. What??

Why, I’ve been told by resident FR medical professionals that the entire gene sequence, for this bio lab released virus, was provided by the ChiComs, early on. And, that’s how our safe, effective and “thoroughly tested” “vaccines” were developed.

🤔


18 posted on 02/12/2021 2:26:14 PM PST by Jane Long (America, Bless God....blessed be the Nation 🙏🏻🇺🇸)
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To: drypowder

That’s why they had to keep PDJT from his RIGHTFUL win.


19 posted on 02/12/2021 2:28:10 PM PST by Jane Long (America, Bless God....blessed be the Nation 🙏🏻🇺🇸)
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To: Jane Long

Yup. And what are the implications of the very people who weaponized a virus telling the target countries how to fix it, hmmm?


20 posted on 02/12/2021 2:37:48 PM PST by null and void (We're the MSM, we decide what news you can see, and what you can not see, but don't call us Not Sees)
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