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WATCH: Body camera footage of RPD officer using irritant on 9-year-old girl (Rochester NY)
whec.com ^ | 1/31/21

Posted on 01/31/2021 10:17:13 AM PST by AbolishCSEU

he Rochester Police Department released body camera footage of an officer that used an irritant on a 9-year-old girl during a family trouble call Friday afternoon.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: crime; police; youth
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To: dragnet2

Yeah and they will buy the girl overpriced phones and shoes which will not change her situation one damn bit. That video is forever.

She will still have stupid violent parents with new money to fight over, still go to a crap school full of bullies and lazy unionized leftist teachers.

Money seldom changes people for the better.


61 posted on 01/31/2021 3:35:13 PM PST by Valpal1
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To: usurper

Do you think the cops enjoyed that encounter? Cops hate these kind of mental health calls.

She was not going to cooperate, she had lost it.

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I have mentored children from low-income households. Obviously the girl was extremely agitated but I didn’t hear one sentence from the cops that try to calm her down with any kind of sympathy And compassion. Not something that comes from any kind of serious training, just something that comes from common sense and your heart. I will be clear again. I think those cops were monsters and I feel terrible for the little girl. And after reading many of the comments on this thread I can very easily see why we are we are we are in this country right now.


62 posted on 01/31/2021 3:43:54 PM PST by bramps (It's the Islam, stupid!)
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To: AbolishCSEU

Either way, she was a kid, was handcuffed. THAT type of action is why the Marxist’s yell get rid of the cops!! These guys have a hard enough job to do then have someone use poor judgment like this. Just take her darn feet and push them in while at the same time, a cop on the other side pulls her across the seat. Hitting her with pepper spray or like thing just gives them ammo against cops. Use better judgment folks. (And this from someone who has a number of sheriff and police in my family. I asked and they say the same thing!!! Use better judgment!!!)


63 posted on 01/31/2021 3:49:22 PM PST by RetiredArmy (Free Will. GOD gives you the choice I accept or reject Him! Choose Him. It depends on you.)
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To: RetiredArmy

I would have immediately put out a county wide call for as many female cops as possible, when 3 or 4 show up, have them play angry mommy on her and throw her in the vehicle.


64 posted on 01/31/2021 4:25:54 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: AbolishCSEU
sorry to disagree. in my day a child would not fight the police the way she did. also i was half the size of her at age 9. I would have easily thought she was 18.

You need your eyes checked. That was a child, and they were terrorizing her, including the jock female cop. Absolute disgrace.

65 posted on 01/31/2021 5:14:35 PM PST by Albion Wilde (Laughter separates us from despair and gives us a chance at love. --Craig Ferguson)
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To: dragnet2
I would have immediately put out a county wide call for as many female cops as possible, when 3 or 4 show up, have them play angry mommy on her and throw her in the vehicle.

The reason that child was rigid with terror is that she is already living with an angry mommy and is in a state of severe neglect. Somebody needed to play loving mommy.

It was a disgrace that the cops were asking each other after 15 minutes of harassing that child what her name was. Why didn't one of the cops ask the child herself what her name was immediately, before ordering her around? That's just basic respecty for human dignity. First, recognize that she is not basically defiant, but basically terrified. Become her ally in a bad situation with her parents and tell her what steps are going to happen and enlist her cooperation, reassuring her that they are going to get her some people to help her while her parents are having difficulty. Get a blanket from the car and wrap it around her shoulders and give her a side hug to help her get a hold of herself. She was obviously an intelligent child, which makes this worse on her.

Instead, they spoke contemptuously like—forgive the expression—nazis. Rolled her in the snow and then cuffed her so she couldn't brush it off her bared stomach, even though she begged for the chance. Threatened her instead of using quiet, confident reassuraing voices. Quite a contrast from those hoked-up cop reality shows where the officers call degenerate hippie drunks "sir" and speak ever so sweetly when they know they're going to be on TV.

66 posted on 01/31/2021 5:38:39 PM PST by Albion Wilde (Laughter separates us from despair and gives us a chance at love. --Craig Ferguson)
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To: ZephyrTX

Lol, get her “dad.” That’s effin funny, right there.


67 posted on 01/31/2021 5:43:57 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass (“There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach,” said one woman.)
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To: Albion Wilde
Somebody needed to play loving mommy.

Ya, they should have done a donut run code 3, and brought back some hot chocolate and cream filled chocolate donuts to alleviate the situation.

Seriously now, they should have sent in a college professor, and a couple of social workers. In fact, they should send in these people for every domestic dispute. I would pay to watch those videos.☺

68 posted on 01/31/2021 6:01:39 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

Must be nice up there, coming from your excellent home life with loving parents who met your needs and provided great values. You’re now entitled to look down upon the less fortunate.


69 posted on 01/31/2021 6:07:47 PM PST by Albion Wilde (Laughter separates us from despair and gives us a chance at love. --Craig Ferguson)
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To: AbolishCSEU

That entire situation should have not happened that way.

Child was already cuffed and asking for her parent. Its not ok what the cops did there.

Looks like another riot is going to happen in that town.


70 posted on 01/31/2021 6:28:53 PM PST by Bayard
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To: Albion Wilde

You’re attempting to make the story about me, but it’s not. Not to mention you’re completely making reckless baseless comments about my background, when the reality is you haven’t a clue about my background. Very odd.

Try to keep up and stick to the report/story.


71 posted on 01/31/2021 6:38:11 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Albion Wilde

I think becoming ally of the child is impossible in that situation. Her repeated calls for her dad tell me that is a canned response she was told to make in this situation. Definitely a sign that she sees them for the Nazi’s.

Cops are going into this without any cooperation by anyone involved. My question is why they were even arresting a 9 year old? Sounds like they should either have left or stayed and gotten the second parent and social worker involved.


72 posted on 01/31/2021 6:40:40 PM PST by Bayard
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To: AbolishCSEU

Ur an idiot.


73 posted on 01/31/2021 6:58:25 PM PST by willfulknowledge
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To: AbolishCSEU

2 weeks min worth of riots to follow.


74 posted on 01/31/2021 7:01:29 PM PST by know.your.why (If you dont watch the MSM you are uninformed. If you do watch the MSM you are misinformed.)
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To: Bayard

“Cops are going into this without any cooperation by anyone involved. My question is why they were even arresting a 9 year old? Sounds like they should either have left or stayed and gotten the second parent and social worker involved.”
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LESSON LEARNED: Don’t even respond to 911 call from a ghetto area asking for help with a 9-year old child who’s acting out and is a threat to harm herself or others.

It’s like with school kids today. Acting out, misbehaving and violent kids get “crazy checks” (SSI Checks) for their family each month. Well behaved studious kids don’t get rewarded with substantial monthly checks (they get nothing) and typically get bullied by the crazy check kids. So what behavior is society reinforcing today?


75 posted on 01/31/2021 8:41:36 PM PST by House Atreides
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To: Valpal1

Yeah, I’m just not going to go with pepper spraying a nine year old girl was the right thing to do.
Mom and dad are fighting and bloodied each other up? Let’s handcuff and pepper spray the little girl!
Brilliant!


76 posted on 01/31/2021 11:24:54 PM PST by samiam5
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To: usurper
I am starting to think that perhaps there is some merit to the idea of having social workers respond to these kind of incidents and not LEO.

In those kinds of situations, wouldn't a social worker typically be sent to the home, along with the police, to look out for the child? Or does that only happen on TV?

Because what we saw on that video was not the way to deal with a frightened 9yo child.

77 posted on 01/31/2021 11:34:34 PM PST by Tired of Taxes
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To: AbolishCSEU

I thought the cop did reasonably well at first - could have been better, but still reasonably well. If only that had continued, even if it took twice as long, three times as long. If cops can spend hours negotiating with a hostage taker, then they can spend a few more minutes with a traumatized child. Maybe part of the problem is that they spend so much time dealing with violent criminals, that they have difficulty “changing gear” when a softer, gentler approach is called for.


78 posted on 02/01/2021 12:24:01 AM PST by Mr Information
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To: Bayard

Agree with your second point— why was the kid arrested? I did not hear any Miranda rights. Children are entitled to have a parent present when or if they are questioned by police at the station; if the parents had told her to ask for her dad if detained by police or touched against her will by a stranger, that’s only common sense.

I agree, the cop should have recognized from the aggressive threats and cursing by the mother towards the child, and her foul-mouthed tirade to the rubberneckers on the street (”S*** my d***!”—in front of the cop and the child) that the child needed to be removed at least temporarily, and call a social worker, not half-a-dozen other officers for an unarmed 9-year-old girl.

While he may not have been able to be seen as an “ally” in the girl’s eyes, he could have reduced the threat level to her enormously by allying with her point of development, such as asking her name, speaking kindly, bending to make eye contact and appear less intimidating, reassure her he needed to talk to her to make sure she was okay, instead of his patronizing and accusatory tone of voice, i.e., “It’s really cold out here. Would you like to sit in the car so you can be warm while we talk with you a little bit and look for your dad? I’d like to help you because I can see you’re upset and scared. Can you hop in here for me?”

Expecting unquestioning, instant obedience from an agitated, abused child is like commanding a kitten to come down out of that tree. It ain’t going to happen. So he might as well have taken the time to coax the desired outcome, or call the fire department—in this case, as we agree, a social worker.


79 posted on 02/01/2021 7:13:31 AM PST by Albion Wilde (Laughter separates us from despair and gives us a chance at love. --Craig Ferguson)
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To: dragnet2
Try to keep up and stick to the report/story.

You just confirmed my earlier sarcastic implication that you believe condescending to others is an effective form of communication. It's not. Didn't work for the cop, and isn't working for you.

80 posted on 02/01/2021 7:16:56 AM PST by Albion Wilde (Laughter separates us from despair and gives us a chance at love. --Craig Ferguson)
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