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A Different Type of Secession Is Already Happening in the USA
Townhall.com ^ | January 31, 2021 | Jeff Crouere

Posted on 01/31/2021 5:55:31 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: yldstrk

Exurbs for me.


41 posted on 01/31/2021 6:50:11 AM PST by null and void (Since I'm a punster, a jokester, and a well rounded funny guy, my personal pronoun is "He He")
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To: PeterPrinciple
And we want them to feel unsafe and unwelcome when they come to our turf. How do we do that?

Keep an eye on them. At every turn they see dozens of strangers watching their every move.

People stop talking and turn to stare. Not threatening, mind you, merely observing.

If they have ill intent they don't want a dozen witnesses.

42 posted on 01/31/2021 6:54:19 AM PST by null and void (Since I'm a punster, a jokester, and a well rounded funny guy, my personal pronoun is "He He")
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To: Fzob

Cities have brittle infrastructure—in so many different ways it is impossible to count all of them.

In this age of computers and satellites they are a thousand times more brittle than they were in past centuries.

Any “civil” war would get uncivil _very_ fast.


43 posted on 01/31/2021 6:54:41 AM PST by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it.)
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To: Kaslin

Large cities need to be forcibly expelled from their states and become new city-states. There is no other solution.


44 posted on 01/31/2021 6:56:48 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: MagillaX; Kaslin
A two party system lacks enough diversity to accomplish this and accommodates collusion.

Our system of government makes a two party system inevitable.

The Electoral College makes a two party system a necessity because a wide coalition of disparate interest must make an alliance in order to capture the Great Prize that is the Office of the President.

In a parliamentary system our two parties would be many parties: the Greens, Labor, Libertarians, Socialist, Democratic Socialist and so on.

After the elections they would form up an alliance to form a government and select a Executive (Prime Minister).

Because of the Electoral College that alliance is formed prior to the election so that they can hope to elect or select a presidential candidate in the primary who can be elected during the general election .

One thing that the Democrats don’t seem to realize is that should they abolish the Electoral College to achieve their dream of a truly democratic system of Majority Rules, it would very likely be the death of their party.

The end of the Electoral College would be the end of the two major parties. Without the Electoral College we could very likely end up with Presidential Runoff races to get to a candidate that could achieve a majority of votes.

45 posted on 01/31/2021 6:57:56 AM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit)
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To: cgbg
When cities die they take their civilizations with them.

Most country dwellers could not live without electricity or even public water for many of them. We have come a long way from 640 acres and a mule. Give that to a family today and they would eat the mule.

46 posted on 01/31/2021 6:58:44 AM PST by itsahoot (Skill to intrepret auto correct is necessary to read my posts, understanding them is another matter.)
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To: PeterPrinciple
The magic of the hat is only who it keeps away but also who it attracts.

I have a 2nd Amendment hat I wear on range days, and it gets overwhelmingly positive comments from people of all races and backgrounds. Only some employees at the local Sprouts grocery store seem intimidated - but even there I had an older female checker light up when she saw it, and start ripping into Biden for his gun control agenda.

As you say, people need encouragement. The majority feels overwhelmed by collectivist social media and MSM messaging.

47 posted on 01/31/2021 7:01:45 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: PGalt
BIG PARTAY. Lots of happy out there. ZERO social distancing.

Freedom on display.

When do the Brown Shirts arrive?

When does the Sheriff or State Police arrive to tell the business owners to get 50% of the people out of here and make them wear mask or lose your license?

48 posted on 01/31/2021 7:03:01 AM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit)
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To: Fzob
"Anyone thinking urban areas will just accept rural and suburban America opting out of supporting democrat run hell holes called cities is delusional. It will require a civil war."

Absolutely right. The Left are the Borg. They will not leave you alone until they are destroyed.

49 posted on 01/31/2021 7:05:48 AM PST by Truth29
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To: McBuff
Btw, this is the number one reason Trump had to go and why COVID had to be more than just a flu.

Covid-19 has killed 439,536 people in the US so far. This is nearly 9 times as many people as influenza killed in 2018, the most recent year with finalized data. Covid-19 is NOT a flu; the virus that causes Covid-19 is a coronavirus, meaning that Covid-19 is related to colds, not flu, although it is much more serious.

No, there was no conspiracy to create a pandemic to hurt Trump. However, the leftist adage of "Never let a crisis go to waste" is very much in operation here. The pandemic created the perfect opportunity for the left to fabricate the narrative that Trump's handling of the pandemic was incompetent. And this narrative was eaten up by both the left and the right. The left made memes demonstrating how stupid Trump and his supporters are, and some on the right picked up the conspiracy theories that Covid-19 is nothing, that no one really dies of Covid-19, etc. And the conspiracies provided more material for the memes. Those who fell for the conspiracies and misinformation hurt Trump just as much as any vile leftist could hurt him.

50 posted on 01/31/2021 7:06:20 AM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org)
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To: PeterPrinciple

Wait til the Federal Government starts to impact the states—and states rights. Wait till a conformity is made mandatory. Wait for the Executive Order banning public ownership of “Assault Weapons” (Like they did with machine guns) or the Private ownership of Gold? (Like FDR did). Wait for the Looting of the Red States to bail out and support the Blue? Or one group getting money just because of their victim status. Wait til the next big war—and half the nation refuses to fight in Biden’s wars? Wait til the Mass Arrests of “Trump Cultist” of even of all members of the Trump Family. The Federalist Party was doomed because of their overreach with the Alien and Sedition laws (Inspired by the Radical French Revolution)—That may well be the fate of the Progressive (AKA: Democratic Party).


51 posted on 01/31/2021 7:07:40 AM PST by Forward the Light Brigade ( ALWAYS GO FORWARD AND NEVER GO BACK.)
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To: itsahoot

I encourage folks to imagine life without electricity by going through their day, each small step at a time.

That thought experiment encourages people to figure out “solutions” (or partial solutions—the perfect is the enemy of the good) with stuff they can buy _now_.


52 posted on 01/31/2021 7:07:56 AM PST by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it.)
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To: exDemMom

Your Covid posts are fear porn at its worst.

The average US citizen (under age 75) is about as likely to die of Covid as they are to die in an auto accident.


53 posted on 01/31/2021 7:09:52 AM PST by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it.)
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To: butlerweave
How long will the Pentagon let this Insurrection and Occupation of the US Capital by the Democrats go on ?

They are one and the same I fear.

54 posted on 01/31/2021 7:14:02 AM PST by itsahoot (Skill to intrepret auto correct is necessary to read my posts, understanding them is another matter.)
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To: Kaslin

We are in the far north suburbs of Atlanta and that’s not far enough. We are soon heading about 75 miles further north into the mountains.


55 posted on 01/31/2021 7:19:00 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Fzob
Anyone thinking urban areas will just accept rural and suburban America opting out of supporting democrat run hell holes called cities is delusional. It will require a civil war.

I agree, and if we want to avoid that war we can do so by withdrawing financial support from the fed govt. We have enabled them, we can disable them. It wouldn't be convenient but a civil war is much more inconvenient. Go Galt.

56 posted on 01/31/2021 7:20:29 AM PST by Buttons12 ( )
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To: Kaslin

Anyone driving on I-205 east of Portland would wonder who in their right mind would live in that city. Homeless encampments everywhere. Totally out of control and apparently the courts say the authorities aren’t allowed to forbid it.


57 posted on 01/31/2021 7:24:44 AM PST by SimpleJack
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To: Kaslin

I never thought we were unified on 9/11.


58 posted on 01/31/2021 7:28:10 AM PST by IgnorerOfLiberals
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To: yldstrk

Been there, done that.

Couldn’t pay me enough to live in either city or suburbs.

Living rural is nicer & cheaper.


59 posted on 01/31/2021 7:51:16 AM PST by ridesthemiles ( )
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To: Kaslin

That’s great, but everyone is going to pay for this. What makes the author think the people in the rural areas and suburbs are safe from the leftists? Look for masses of illegal immigrants to move into all areas of the country. If you are a taxpayer, you cannot escape. Education at all levels is becoming communist and racist propaganda. Unless you are Daniel Boone living off the land out in the boonies, there is no escaping the commie revolution.


60 posted on 01/31/2021 7:51:17 AM PST by Pining_4_TX (‘You can drive out Nature with a pitchfork, but she keeps on coming back.’ – Horace)
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