Posted on 01/12/2021 5:38:57 PM PST by ebb tide
January 12, 2021 (LifeSiteNews) – Today I had the great pleasure of sitting down with Pamela Acker, one of the most knowledgeable people in the world on vaccines and on what goes into them. Acker actually spent time in a vaccine research lab for nine months before encountering the ethical and moral issue of the HEK-293 cell line.
Our conversation today was one of the most enlightening but also deeply disturbing interviews I’ve ever done for my podcast The John-Henry Westen Show.
Acker is a biologist and author of the recently released (and extremely informative) book Vaccination: A Catholic Perspective. In it, she reveals precisely how Catholics should be thinking about vaccines. You can buy it from our friends at the Kolbe Center for the Study of Creation.
Unfortunately – depressingly really – under Pope Francis, the Vatican has largely downplayed if not entirely ignored the importance of bioethics.
Francis himself just last week endorsed the COVID-19 vaccine, saying that “it must be done.”
Acker and I spoke about many topics today for over an hour. Please watch the entire interview if you can. The most revealing aspect of our conversation, I think, was when we discussed the various fetal cell lines being used in vaccines, specifically.
There are a number of fetal cell lines in existence right now. There’s WI-38, MRC-5, HEK-293, PER C-6, and WALVAX-2; WALVAX-2 is not currently being used in any vaccines, but does have the potential to be used and is currently used in therapeutic treatments. As Acker and I agreed, most people have this understanding that it was one or two babies that died and will simply dismiss these cell lines.
Acker speaks about her research into the HEK-293 cell line specifically, and talks about the number that’s at the end of that cell line name. “HEK” stands for Human Embryonic Kidney and the “293” actually reveals the number of experiments that a specific researcher did to develop that cell line.
“It doesn’t mean there were two hundred and ninety-three abortions, but for two hundred and ninety-three experiments, you would certainly need far more than one abortion. We’re talking probably hundreds of abortions,” Acker shares.
Acker goes on to discuss why researchers would choose a fetal cell line over an adult cell line. The details boil down to one answer: because they’ll last longer, having a much longer lifespan. However, these cell lines encounter some dangerous side effects, such as the genes are given cancer promoting genes (but more on that inside the interview).
Acker dispels the myth that these cell lines are created using spontaneous abortions, simply by understanding that these cells have to be gathered within five minutes of the abortion. A miscarriage would simply not provide cells that were alive enough for researchers to be able to use the cells.
This is where things get very disturbing, because in most cases it’s not a “simple abortion,” but rather, Acker says:
“They will actually deliver these babies via cesarean section. The babies are still alive when the researchers start extracting the tissue; to the point where their heart is still beating, and they’re generally not given any anesthetic, because that would disrupt the cells that the researchers are trying to extract.
So, they’re removing this tissue, all the while the baby is alive and in extreme amounts of pain. So, this makes it even more sadistic.”
While our discussion is broad, we do highlight the Moderna and Pfizer COVID vaccines specifically. The above is a small sample of the vital information Pamela Acker and I discussed today. I encourage each one of you to listen to the full interview, and share with your friends and family.
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The bile rose in my throat.
Thanks, ebb tide.
*PING* to ransomnote. Please forward.
Why can’t super-intelligent people, scientist, come up with a straight answer ...
Do we know, can we know, or can we only suspect. Will any manuf tell the truth ?
And we wonder why what seemed Good lost an election in the USA. How could God look at the hypocrisy?
Shall a bloody nation nor receive blood from the Lord?
Sigh. Words matter and terms matter. The left has been very successful by using terms of their choosing, like "homeless" instead of "bums", "undocumented immigrants", instead of "illegal immigrants" or "illegal aliens".
Conservatives need to change the terms in the abortion debate to more accurately reflect the truth. One cannot be "unborn". Many software programs have an "undo" button that reverses the previous operation as if it never happened. To be "unborn" would be to push the baby back into the womb to a pre-birth situation. It's impossible.
Use the term "preborn"!
Revelation
18 And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory.
2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.
3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.
4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.
6 Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double.
has the Pope weighed in on this yet?
Sometimes I wonder where the devil lurks. Now I see.
Thank you for your post.
I love Life Site news.
But this Acker is a charlatan.
She knows nothing about cell line development.
This is an absurd statement:
““It doesn’t mean there were two hundred and ninety-three abortions, but for two hundred and ninety-three experiments, you would certainly need far more than one abortion. We’re talking probably hundreds of abortions,” Acker shares. “
Not something that is common knowledge. Thank you and God bless you!
Would you settle for double plus preborn?
Josef Mengele would be proud. There is no way that I could take any vaccine knowing that innocent lives were sacrificed to produce it.
God heal our land.
Josef Mengele would be proud. There is no way that I could take any vaccine knowing that innocent lives were sacrificed to produce it.
“I love Life Site news.”
Watch biden henchmen target this Godly site. Of course it won’t ‘come’ from govt, it’ll be some big tech outfit, finding cause to pull their hosting or dns.
satan owns so many.
There were no cell lines used in the manufacture of the pfizer vaccine itself...but I did learn they may have used certain cell lines to check reactivity to the vaccine itself. Not sure why they couldn’t have used less controversial cell lines.
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