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Trump lawyer suggests Pence could defer certifying election, send requests to state legislatures [Jenna Ellis]
Just The News ^ | 4 Jan 2021 | John Solomon

Posted on 01/04/2021 5:11:03 PM PST by amorphous

One of President Trump's campaign attorneys suggested Monday that Vice President Mike Pence delay certifying the elections results for Joe Biden when Congress convenes Wednesday and instead ask legislatures in the six states where results have been contested to clarify which candidate's slate of electors should be approved.

Jenna Ellis, senior legal adviser to the Trump campaign, floated the idea Monday afternoon during an appearance on the Just the News television show The Water Cooler with David Brody.

"What Mike Pence could do, and what he should do, in fact, is to direct a question back to the state legislatures when there are two competing slates of delegates from these six states, he can ask that question to the states and say, 'well, state legislators, you know, I have an oath to the Constitution to uphold the Constitution as written in Article II Section 1.2 which says the state legislatures direct the manner in which electoral delegates are selected. So you tell me which of these two slates was selected in the manner that your state general assembly has designated,'" Ellis said.

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In a follow up email to Just the News, Ellis described the steps she believed could be taken lawfully:

Pence should not open any of the votes from the six states, and instead direct a question to the legislatures asking them to confirm which of the two slates of electors have in fact been chosen in the manner the legislature has provided for under Article II, Section 1.2 of the U.S. Constitution.

The Vice President should open all other votes from states where electors have been certified and not contested, and count accordingly.

The question would then require a response from the legislatures, which would then need to meet in an emergency electoral session.

Pence should require a timely response from each state legislature and set a deadline of Jan. 17. If any state legislature fails to provide a timely response, no electoral votes can be opened and counted from that state. The Constitution provides that if no candidate for President receives a majority of electoral votes, the Congress shall vote by state delegation. This would provide two and one-half days for Congress to meet and vote by delegation prior to January 20 at noon for inauguration.

Pence would not be exercising discretion nor establishing new precedent, simply asking for clarification from the constitutionally appointed authority in each of the six states.

1 posted on 01/04/2021 5:11:03 PM PST by amorphous
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To: amorphous

DO IT! DO IT! DO IT!

I want to know the real story of JFK, UFOs, BIGFOOT!!

MAKE IT HAPPEN!

and dont forget the lizard men!!!


2 posted on 01/04/2021 5:14:25 PM PST by baclava
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To: amorphous

Finally. A serious sensible answer from a Trump attorney. Mike Pence should reject any and all electors from those contested states. Not only based on what Jenna is talking about, but also on the basis of those states have violated their own state election codes. Not to mention the federal election laws.


3 posted on 01/04/2021 5:16:16 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (I will not rest until the American People have the honest vote count they deserve. DJT 11-07-20)
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To: baclava

Oh, this isnt the Q thread?

Nevermind


4 posted on 01/04/2021 5:16:43 PM PST by baclava
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To: baclava

Do you think this thread was improved by adding your comment? Do you think people who read it are now more enlightened?


5 posted on 01/04/2021 5:17:48 PM PST by TTFX
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To: Responsibility2nd

Bump


6 posted on 01/04/2021 5:19:34 PM PST by Guenevere (When the foundations are being destroyed what can the righteous do)
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To: amorphous

Isn’t this just kicking the can down the road if they come back and say the Xiden slate that resulted from the rigged election is the correct one?


7 posted on 01/04/2021 5:21:32 PM PST by bigbob (Trust Trump. Trust the Plan. )
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To: amorphous
... which of the two slates of electors have in fact been chosen...

But two slates haven't been chosen.

8 posted on 01/04/2021 5:21:42 PM PST by Fury (.)
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To: bigbob

If they do that, yes.

If they do something different, no.


9 posted on 01/04/2021 5:25:52 PM PST by TTFX
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To: baclava

Actually, that’s a very well thought out strategy.

And, what’s more, it’s constitutional.


10 posted on 01/04/2021 5:27:22 PM PST by BrexitBen
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To: amorphous
I've taken a lot of grief for suggesting that Sen. Tom Cotton and Rep. Tom Massie are playing this right by pointing out that Congress cannot under any circumstances "overturn" a set of duly-certified electors from any state. The last thing we need is to have Congress meddling in an electoral process for the President of the United States.

Having said that ...

I believe the scenario here is not an outlandish idea. I have said all along that the legislatures need to get off their asses and make their assent (or dissent) known in cases where the elections clearly did not meet the statutory requirements of those states.

11 posted on 01/04/2021 5:28:24 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("There's somebody new and he sure ain't no rodeo man.")
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So you tell me which of these two slates was selected in the manner that your state general assembly has designated,’”

I like it.
Put the State legislators on record as certifying a crime, or rejecting a crime.

I trust, the minute they certify a crime, they are swept up and taken to Club Gitmo


12 posted on 01/04/2021 5:33:54 PM PST by Steven Tyler (President Elect Steven Tyler)
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To: baclava

Welcome to Free Republic.


13 posted on 01/04/2021 5:34:25 PM PST by proust (Justice delayed is injustice.)
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To: amorphous

If nothing else, this will buy more time. Pence doing this puts the ball in the court of the state legislatures who have been dodging the issues of fraud, and violations of the statutory election code. These people are weasels. Pence should make them decide the issue. It is fitting.


14 posted on 01/04/2021 5:35:27 PM PST by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: amorphous

Isn’t this the same idea that was posted all over FR in December, that Pence should contact the disputed states and basically ask them if they’re sure? I forget the name of the guy that kept tweeting urgent messages...some ‘Constitutional lawyer’ in NY if I remember correctly.


15 posted on 01/04/2021 5:36:47 PM PST by Spirit of Liberty (It's morning in America again!)
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when there are two competing slates of delegates from these six states

Except there are no States that have sent competing Electors.

Zero.

16 posted on 01/04/2021 5:37:02 PM PST by Jim Noble (Lo there do I see the line of my people, back to the beginning)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Mike Pence should reject any and all electors from those contested states

There are no active election contests, not in any State.

17 posted on 01/04/2021 5:38:31 PM PST by Jim Noble (Lo there do I see the line of my people, back to the beginning)
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To: amorphous

ack Posobiec Flag of United States
@JackPosobiec
Trump talking about firing everyone right now. Wray, Gina, etc. And wants to declassify everything - UFOs, JFK, all of it


18 posted on 01/04/2021 5:38:59 PM PST by RummyChick (1. I blame Kushner. 2. Pence and the firing squad tweet is my favorite absurdity of the election)
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To: Spirit of Liberty

Robert Barnes?


19 posted on 01/04/2021 5:39:04 PM PST by proust (Justice delayed is injustice.)
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To: Alberta's Child

I’ve taken a lot of grief for suggesting that Sen. Tom Cotton and Rep. Tom Massie are playing this right by pointing out that Congress cannot under any circumstances “overturn” a set of duly-certified electors from any state


Are they duly-certified if they broke a law during the certification? The election is a prerequisite for certification. During the election, ballots were mailed in a way that violated laws passed by state legislatures.

Since the requirements for certification is not met -an election that follows the laws paseed by state legislatures-, the certification is also illegal.


20 posted on 01/04/2021 5:40:06 PM PST by TTFX
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