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Oct 2020: Dr Fauci warns that early COVID-19 vaccines will only prevent symptoms from arising - not block infection
UK Daily Mail ^ | 10/27/2020 | Megan Sheets

Posted on 01/01/2021 2:40:58 PM PST by Jan_Sobieski

Dr Anthony Fauci has cautioned that early COVID-19 vaccines will be focused on preventing symptoms of the virus, not blocking it altogether.

Fauci, the nation's leading expert on infectious diseases, made the point on Monday as at least four vaccine candidates near the end of clinical trials and the US reported a record number of new cases in the last week.

While the end goal of the vaccines will be to eradicate the virus, Fauci noted that developers are aiming for a simpler goal in the first round of jabs.

'The primary thing you want to do is that if people get infected, prevent them from getting sick, and if you prevent them from getting sick, you will ultimately prevent them from getting seriously ill,' Fauci said at Yahoo Finance's All Markets Summit.

'If the vaccine also allows you to prevent initial infection, that would be great. [But] what I would settle for, and all of my colleagues would settle for, is the primary endpoint to prevent clinically recognizable disease.'

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: chinavirusvaccine; coronavirus; covid19; fauci; symptoms; vaccines
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To: DugwayDuke

My niece and nephew in Orlando got the vaccine last Monday.

They report zero side effects a week later. They are thankful their Governor lowered the age for first tier people to 65.

They both have co-morbidities.

Both are feeling more secure, and have a degree of peace of mind they have not experienced since last March.


61 posted on 01/01/2021 3:49:29 PM PST by miserare ( Respect for life--life of all kinds-- is the first principle of civilization.~~A. Schweitzer.)
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To: rsobin

Haha! I like your style.


62 posted on 01/01/2021 3:50:20 PM PST by miserare ( Respect for life--life of all kinds-- is the first principle of civilization.~~A. Schweitzer.)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

The vaccines will generally lower viral loads, as it decreases infection rates and severity. That should decrease transmission greatly.


63 posted on 01/01/2021 3:52:55 PM PST by familyop
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

High priced quack!!!


64 posted on 01/01/2021 3:53:55 PM PST by eeriegeno
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To: miserare

miserare wrote: “My niece and nephew in Orlando got the vaccine last Monday. They report zero side effects a week later. They are thankful their Governor lowered the age for first tier people to 65.”

Wife and I are 74 & 70 and intend to get the vaccine as soon as possible. I’m amazed that those who claim the vaccine causes more deaths than the virus. How totally absurd.
I keep asking for links to any deaths caused by the vaccine and no one has been able to provide them.


65 posted on 01/01/2021 3:59:56 PM PST by DugwayDuke (Biden - Not My President!)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

I should get a vaccine that does not immunize me against the virus I’m being vaccinated against?

Why???


66 posted on 01/01/2021 4:11:02 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith.....)
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To: miserare

“Every day, Fauci reminds me more and more of Kevorkian.”

Not there yet w/F. Not far off, either.


67 posted on 01/01/2021 4:14:09 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Elites love lockdowns /restrictions, because they keep us, the little people out of their way!")
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To: Jim Noble

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68 posted on 01/01/2021 4:17:53 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Elites love lockdowns /restrictions, because they keep us, the little people out of their way!")
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To: metmom

I should get a vaccine that does not immunize me against the virus I’m being vaccinated against?

My very smart RN wife just shook her head/no!


69 posted on 01/01/2021 4:25:57 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Elites love lockdowns /restrictions, because they keep us, the little people out of their way!")
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Lady G is a town favorite.


70 posted on 01/01/2021 4:27:07 PM PST by cnsmom
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Fauci, the nation's MSM and Communist Party recognized leading expert on infectious diseases...

There. Fixed it..

71 posted on 01/01/2021 4:43:29 PM PST by Thommas (The snout of the camel is in the tent.)
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To: Jan_Sobieski
You all may be interested in this new thread: COVID research updates: How 90% of French COVID cases evaded detection [stay-at-home orders brought only marginal benefit... Extensive study findings-must read for the student...]
72 posted on 01/01/2021 5:01:46 PM PST by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: Secret Agent Man

“i don’t believe they have anyones best interest at heart, and they’ve proven themselves to be liars all along and have admitted so.

Within a few weeks your observation above was very clear.

I started posting that what was being to us was not for our health, our families’ health and other people’s health.

A lot of freepers agreed than and more do every time I post:

“What was being to us was not for our health, nor our families’ health and nor other people.”


73 posted on 01/01/2021 5:03:27 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Elites love lockdowns /restrictions, because they keep us, the little people out of their way!")
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

SOOOOOO Your symptoms are suppressed? Then how do you know you might be sick???


74 posted on 01/01/2021 5:05:16 PM PST by ridesthemiles ( )
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To: Jan_Sobieski
Is this math correct?:

As of 8:23:09 AM Fri, 01/01/21 we had this figure of 355,000 Covid-assigned deaths out of 21,000000 (slightly anticipated and in rounded figures) positive Covid-19 cases, which figures (Y is what % of X)of to be a CFR (Case Fatality Rate, based on confirmed cases, which are the minority, but are mostly likely to be tested and to die, since for most of the pandemic those who to had symptoms were the most likely to be tested, while a large percentage of persons who test positive never developed any) of 1.69%

As for the IFR (Infection Fatality Rate, Covid-assigned deaths as a % of the estimated total infections, vs. confirmed infections) in US, an official estimate of the estimated total infections in the US is very hard to find, but the CDC (Dec. 11) provided a figure of 91 Million Estimated Total Infections (Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) at which time there were about 300,000 Covid-assigned deaths (figures are rounded), which would figure to be a IFR or 0.33.

Then we have the CMR Crude Morality Rate(Covid-assigned deaths as a % of the total pop.), in which 355,000 as a % of 332,000,000 is 0.11%

And with 1,828,684 Covid-assigned deaths worldwide (12–28–20) out of a total world population of 7,800,000,000 people as of March 2020, then the overall worldwide Covid-19 crude morality rate (CMR) is 0.02.

75 posted on 01/01/2021 5:05:58 PM PST by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: Grampa Dave

Wise wife.


76 posted on 01/01/2021 5:17:37 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith.....)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

So the vaccine won’t stop you from getting COVID and they don’t know how long vaccine will last and they still want us to get it. Ah, no thanks. I’ve already had it with few symptoms.


77 posted on 01/01/2021 5:22:11 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (If the meanings in the Constitution can change, why did they bother writing it down?)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

So Fauci is publicly stating that the vaccines or not vaccines. Or he’s just lying and fearmongering. I believe the latter.


78 posted on 01/01/2021 5:24:27 PM PST by Crucial ( )
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

I think it’s amazing that he believes himself what he says OR DOES HE? Wouldn’t a smarter person realize that they are making fools of themselves? I think after a year of this, he would decide to shut up. The vaccination will keep you from getting SICK??? Good grief!


79 posted on 01/01/2021 5:30:08 PM PST by Thank You Rush ( )
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To: metmom

This has been a big wake up call for her.

She, our oldest son and our grand daughter are 3 of the smartest/real people I have ever met. They can read at 500+ words per minute with perfect recall.

Yet, they are real people, and most of their friends and relatives have no idea how smart these 3 are.

Sunday and Monday, she starting discussing how impossible it was to get real scientific data on anything connected with Covid and now the vaccine.

As of now, she will probably not take the vaccine when it is offered to us. I will.


80 posted on 01/01/2021 5:53:51 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Elites love lockdowns /restrictions, because they keep us, the little people out of their way!")
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