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A United Europe Aligning With China Would Be A Disaster For The United States
The Federalist ^ | December 30, 2020 | Sumantra Maitra

Posted on 12/30/2020 9:02:07 AM PST by Kaslin

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1 posted on 12/30/2020 9:02:07 AM PST by Kaslin
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BS. When you are a vassal, as the US will soon be, alliances are meaningless.

But hey, it’s not all bad. The Chinese are bright enough to make sure we have internet and smartphones. Of course, internet content will be changed a little.


2 posted on 12/30/2020 9:05:15 AM PST by brownsfan (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.)
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When has a united Europe ever been a friend? Particularly one based on the so-called “social market economy” and expounds “respect for the principles of the (communistic) United Nations charter”?

Kaiser Wilhelm II described the notion of having “a United States of Europe against America” at the beginning of the last century.


3 posted on 12/30/2020 9:06:35 AM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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Fuqum, did my part.


4 posted on 12/30/2020 9:07:18 AM PST by dsrtsage (Complexity is merely simplicity lacking imagination)
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To: Kaslin

Slight variation on the Hitler-Tojo axis. This time, the Germans won’t need to bomb Pearl Harbir.


5 posted on 12/30/2020 9:07:35 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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To: Kaslin
One step closer to a one world government. We are slowly but surely being marginalized.
6 posted on 12/30/2020 9:09:07 AM PST by ealgeone
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Note to The Federalist: I hate to break it to you, but that ship sailed a while ago.


7 posted on 12/30/2020 9:09:39 AM PST by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds. )
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[There was a logic in the British “divide and rule” policy. Compared to a lot of Eastern European countries, Britain was in a better position to unilaterally move out, given British economy and military power, something a lot of smaller countries are not capable of. American strategists worth their salt would start thinking about how to exploit these rifts within the EU. ]


The Chinese have been doing that with the EU. Trump was doing that with the EU, which is why so many EUnuchs were so angry with him. Biden is continuing with the Clinton strategy of fashioning Europe into a powerful enemy to counteract American power.


8 posted on 12/30/2020 9:11:46 AM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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Tell it to the Italians. I think they had enough of the Chinese.


9 posted on 12/30/2020 9:12:43 AM PST by Kid Shelleen (Beat your plowshares into swords. Let the weak say I am strong)
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If the Euros want to align with China, they better use a very long spoon.


10 posted on 12/30/2020 9:13:03 AM PST by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. Support Israel.d)
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So then we are allying with Russia? And India?

Probably East Asia will divide. The countries close to China go with us, the ones further out with China?

11 posted on 12/30/2020 9:14:04 AM PST by x
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European socialists and statists are embracing Europe’s decline and second-class status.


12 posted on 12/30/2020 9:14:14 AM PST by PGR88
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“It is foreseen that in 20 years, we [the EU] will not represent more than 11 percent of world GNP, far behind China, which will represent double it, below 14 percent for the United States and at par with India,”

Decline is a choice, both for Europe and for us. China and India have not made that choice - they choose to ascend.

Trump tried to reverse that choice, but the inertia of decades of deliberate appeasement of Communist China aren't easy to resist, let alone reverse.
13 posted on 12/30/2020 9:14:47 AM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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No it would not! The US needs more isolation, to get back to its roots of self sufficiency!


14 posted on 12/30/2020 9:22:27 AM PST by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: Kaslin

The Eurowimps need Chinese labor in China to produce cheaply the consumer goods, electronics and heavy materiels that are too costly and enviormentally detrimental to produce in Europe. China in turn needs the markets, the flow of capital and access to innovative technology and advances. Both benefit. Yet neither are a real threat to the United States. The United States will never fight a land war with China on the Asian mainland. China for all its penetrations into the American economy and political infrastructure cannot really really control America.

Yet China model of economic development is fatally flawed. The Communist Party controls the central bank and the allocation of capital. As a result huge amounts of laboursly earned capital have been and continue to be squandered. There is chronic economic and political instability in China. When it acutely worsens the CCP will do all it can to preserve its grip on power. China has always coveted Russia’s rich but underpopulated Siberian and Pacific coast territories. During a crisis the prize would be very tempting to desperate communists.

Therefore very much doubt there will be a conflict involving the Eurowimps or the Americans. However a serious fight between Russia alligned perhaps with India, financed by Japan against China one day will happen.


15 posted on 12/30/2020 9:28:26 AM PST by allendale
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That Stasi has been PM of Deutschland for a long time. Is she really that popular? Or do they use Dominion machines there, too?


16 posted on 12/30/2020 9:29:12 AM PST by Seruzawa (TANSTAAFL!)
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Good. We can get out of NATO and take down all our military bases over there


17 posted on 12/30/2020 9:29:33 AM PST by escapefromboston (Free Assange )
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Is it a disaster for the US or Biden? It would be a shame if the big guy didn’t get his 10%.


18 posted on 12/30/2020 9:42:57 AM PST by alternatives? (If our borders are not secure, why fund an army?)
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Why do you think that would be the case?

Withdraw from enemy territory and wait for him to build up and come here?


19 posted on 12/30/2020 9:43:24 AM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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Russia has been allied with China for decades. How would you propose breaking that alliance?


20 posted on 12/30/2020 9:44:11 AM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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