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Can public transportation survive the pandemic? Experts warn of 'death spiral'
NBC News / Comcast ^ | December 27, 2020 | By Mo Abbas

Posted on 12/27/2020 3:50:10 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

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To: Lurker

My son owns a company in Seattle. He has just under 40 developers. His lease expires the end of the month. Not only is he going “all WFH”, but he’s hired his last Seattle developer. They are too expensive. From here on out, it’s guys from flyover country. Just as good and half as much.


21 posted on 12/27/2020 5:39:30 AM PST by cuban leaf (We killed our economy and damaged our culture. In 2021 we will pine for the salad days of 2020.)
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To: Rockingham

” urban residents hate paying for country roads they rarely if ever use.”

The vast majority of those using pubic transportation pay for nothing, and country residents pay far more taxes than the ghetto hood rats in cites!


22 posted on 12/27/2020 5:47:14 AM PST by Beagle8U ("Chris Wallace comes from the shallow end of the press pool.")
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To: cuban leaf
Office space in the cities will be converted to condos.

Office space in the cities will be abandoned. Maintenance will end.

The central cities will slowly degrade until the buildings become a collapse hazard.

Then the cities will serve their original purpose, as agricultural centers adjacent to rivers.

Think of it as "progressive socialism" and "diversity" in action.
23 posted on 12/27/2020 5:57:03 AM PST by cgbg ( Remember 1876--we _can_ do this!--Biden--Office of the Prisoner-Elect)
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To: Beagle8U
In general, the cities served by public transportation generate far more tax revenue than the rural areas of this country.

It's basically a matter of population density and economies of scale.

24 posted on 12/27/2020 6:06:59 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("There's somebody new and he sure ain't no rodeo man.")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

In Raleigh area public transports are always empty basically. Maybe 1 or 2 people on board these huge buses. Waste of money. Either cut it out or just invest in smaller vans ya know!


25 posted on 12/27/2020 6:27:16 AM PST by pangaea6
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
"Heavy equipment" that is in continual use demands continual maintenance.

Left to itself it rusts and "drys up"

If mechanics are not constantly doing PM for instance, the fleet will die ....



26 posted on 12/27/2020 6:52:01 AM PST by knarf (The Constitution protects the right to peaceably assemble, not to protest)
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To: cgbg

Then the cities will serve their original purpose, as agricultural centers adjacent to rivers.>> Philly was pretty much a manufacturing center early on 1830’s
Deringer had a shop, Baldwin, Curtis publishing after Franklin. Stetson, Denison, Shoemakers, cigar factories, Botany 500, textile mills, Beer, etc.


27 posted on 12/27/2020 6:59:37 AM PST by kvanbrunt2 (spooks won on day 76)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Mayor’s will simply raise taxes to support it.


28 posted on 12/27/2020 7:06:39 AM PST by SkyDancer
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To: SkyDancer; knarf

Run the Mayors/politicians out on these decrepit rails.


29 posted on 12/27/2020 7:11:06 AM PST by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow,)
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To: GeneralisimoFranciscoFranco
I know SlowJoe is a train fan because he used to ride from DC to Delaware a lot. So I expect he'll dispense a LOT of gravy to public transport.


30 posted on 12/27/2020 7:12:33 AM PST by nascarnation
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To: Alberta's Child

People in rural areas pay far more taxes for the services received than those in cities. It’s not even close.

A farmer living on a gravel road pays 40-50K property tax for ...what exactly? No street lights, no sidewalks, no parks, in many cases no police or fire dept.

Then that farmer pays a ton of Federal taxes that wind up in cities to feed the ghetto rats.


31 posted on 12/27/2020 7:15:03 AM PST by Beagle8U ("Chris Wallace comes from the shallow end of the press pool.")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

How will the muggers survive if there are no riders on the subway? Who will see the taggers’ magnificent “works of art” if there are no riders?


32 posted on 12/27/2020 7:39:21 AM PST by Hardastarboard (Don't wish your enemy ill; plan it.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Here in Tampa, HART customers are mostly Homeless going from one bus shelter to another bus shelter now. Before CoVid-19, some of the clients were school kids going to/from schools (They rode free, along with USF students).

A few years ago, Hillsborough County voters voted for a sales tax increase, for more routes to the rural areas, but they used it to buy buses - not routes. One Hillsborough County commissioner is fighting the tax increase, because it is not helping the rural areas.(1 route to the southern part of the county - every 90 minutes ).

Another pipe dream of liberals here is the Hyperloop from here to Orlando and Hi Speed Rail to Orlando, Miami and Jacksonville and commuter rail. They have a plan to expand the ferry from Tampa to St. Pete to include stops in Apollo Beach and near McDill Air Force Base and they just got funding to expand the street car line.

33 posted on 12/27/2020 7:41:51 AM PST by Deplorable American1776 (We might be DEPLORABLES, but we don't CHEAT like Dems)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

No problem. Soon, under SsloJoe, all public transportation will only cost 5 kopeks.


34 posted on 12/27/2020 7:56:40 AM PST by VanShuyten ("...that all the donkeys were dead. I know nothing as to the fate of the less valuable animals.")
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To: VanShuyten

Well played sir!


35 posted on 12/27/2020 7:57:39 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Deplorable American1776

I lived in Hillsborough County many moons ago when there were far less people, the 50’s.


36 posted on 12/27/2020 8:25:20 AM PST by Beagle8U ("Chris Wallace comes from the shallow end of the press pool.")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

In the age of work-from-home, transportation infrastructure
could become drastically different.


37 posted on 12/27/2020 8:54:55 AM PST by indthkr
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
One more of the Left's sacred cows slain as collateral damage from their 2020 putsch.

Add it to gun control, big city padded finances, illegal immigration, offshoring of our manufacturing and a host of Leftist goals.

38 posted on 12/27/2020 9:07:29 AM PST by rdcbn1
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To: JonPreston

You still want to go to Broadway shows in NYC. But if Governor Cuomo shuts down Broadway, what makes NYC special is no longer there. Then it’s no longer worth the high cost of living because you can’t enjoy all what the city has to offer you anymore.


39 posted on 12/27/2020 9:10:09 AM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: Beagle8U
I don't know any farmer who pays property taxes like that -- even in places like New York and New Jersey that are notorious for their high property taxes.

And farming is one of the most heavily subsidized industries in the U.S. today.

40 posted on 12/27/2020 9:33:05 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("There's somebody new and he sure ain't no rodeo man.")
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