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How Many Of 178,000 Wisconsinites Illegally Voted Using This Loophole?
The Federalist ^ | December 21, 2020 | M.D. Kittle

Posted on 12/21/2020 7:38:38 AM PST by Kaslin

If the state senator was in the field working, she certainly was not ‘indefinitely confined’ under the meaning and intent of state statute. So, did she break the law? How many others did?


MADISON, Wis. — Outgoing Wisconsin state Sen. Patty Schachtner, a full-time county medical examiner, earlier this year claimed to be “indefinitely confined,” receiving the special status accorded under state election law. The Democrat and her husband signed a statement claiming they were confined to their home “because of age, physical illness or infirmity” in seeking an absentee ballot to be automatically sent to their Somerset home.

It begs the question: If the lawmaker is “indefinitely confined,” how has she performed her duties as St. Croix County’s Medical Examiner these past six months?

Medical examiner doesn’t seem to be a remote gig. The St. Croix Medical Examiner’s Office’s mission is “to serve the public with trained medicolegal death investigators to ensure accurate and scientific investigations when determining cause and manner of death,” according to its website.

An official from the St. Croix Register of Deeds office told Empower Wisconsin that Schachtner has signed the county’s death certificates over the past several months — since she applied for indefinitely confined status in June. If the state senator was in the field performing death investigations, she certainly was not “indefinitely confined” under the meaning and intent of state statute. So, did the lawmaker break the law?

That question came up earlier this week.

I Can Do Everything In Person Except Vote

Conservative talk show host Dan O’Donnell, in an article for the MacIver Institute, opined that Schachtner “all but confirmed that she herself had committed election fraud” earlier this week when she, as one of Wisconsin’s 10 electors, cast her ballot for Joe Biden at the state Capitol.

“As she cast her electoral vote for Joe Biden in Madison (roughly 250 miles away from her home in Somerset) on Monday, Schachtner proved that she was in no way confined because of age, physical illness, infirmity, or physical disability. She managed to get to the Capitol just fine.”

In November, Schachtner lost her 10th Senate District re-election bid to state Rep. Rob Stafsholt. She wasn’t confined during the entire campaign. Just six days before the August primary, Schachtner spoke at the grand opening of a Kwik Trip convenience store in New Richmond, O’Donnell reported.

“So unconcerned was she about her health that during the middle of the COVID-19 pandemic she didn’t even wear a mask as she spoke,” he wrote. There’s more.

According to her official Facebook page, she went to Ted’s Pizza Palace in Menominee on Sept. 15 and joined State Treasurer Sarah Godlewski for an event in River Falls on Oct. 8, O’Donnell noted.

“She found time for leisure activities, too. On September 26th, she posted a picture of herself and her husband ‘going out and enjoy[ing] all the wonderful natural resources that our state has to offer.’” So much for confined.

New York Times Documents Her Activity Also

Schachtner didn’t answer Empower Wisconsin’s two phone messages on Thursday seeking comment. As for her St. Croix County position, a New York Times article last month sang the praises of a clairvoyant medical examiner who “took masks to funeral homes … dropped off body bags at nursing homes” and “rented a refrigerated truck to store even more bodies,” long before the pandemic surged as the weather turned colder.

The Times story painted a picture of very active medical examiner working against time, a deadly pandemic and — in usual New York Times elitism — the stupidity of local rural citizenry who wouldn’t mask up or stay home.

In another assertion that appears to conflict with Schachtner’s Facebook posts, the Times article claimed the candidate “did not hold campaign events or knock on doors, worried that it was not a safe practice.” The reporter added, “her Republican opponent won easily,” as if to suggest that if it wasn’t for that darn COVID …

One of the more concerning allegations of election fraud raised before and after Nov. 3 involves the liberal — in every sense of the word — use of indefinitely confined status. Clerks in liberal bastions Dane and Milwaukee counties in March advised anyone could use the threat of COVID-19 as a reason for being indefinitely confined. The Wisconsin Supreme Court ruled otherwise. But the damage was done.

As the MacIver Institute reported, Schachtner and roughly 178,000 other Wisconsinites applied for the special status, which excuses them from voter ID requirements. The MacIver Institute found that the number of indefinitely confined voters rose by a staggering 238 percent this year, and many were not actually confined to their homes. President Trump reportedly lost Wisconsin by a margin of 20,000 votes, well within this drastic expansion in potentially illegal voting.

“The Republican Party of Wisconsin tried to warn everyone that election laws would be abused last Spring, shortly after clerks illegally advised the use of indefinite confinement to dodge photo I.D. safeguards,” the state GOP said in a statement. “It’s clear now that many individuals – including powerful elected officials – abused that system when they weren’t indefinitely confined. WEC and the Legislature must look at addressing this before the next election.”

In an interview with Wispolitics.com earlier this week, Schachtner said she claimed the status because her husband is a cancer survivor and she was trying to be safe. She also claimed she’s received threats since O’Donnell reported on her use of the confinement status.

Schachtner also claimed ignorance, insisting she didn’t know voters who claim the status should notify their clerks once they no longer qualify for it. She insists she’s a “legal voter, pure and simple.”

In a unanimous decision this week, the state Supreme Court ruled individual electors are responsible for determining whether they are indefinitely confined. That determination, though, may only be based upon “age, physical illness or infirmity.” The court said a voter can’t use someone else’s age or illness to claim the status.

Schachtner clearly didn’t fit into the “indefinitely confined” parameters under state law. You can’t legally make a false statement to the municipal clerk, board of election commissioners, or any other election officials. Doing so is a felony, punishable by three and one-half years in prison and fines of up to $10,000. But the law only counts if it’s prosecuted.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: 2020; absenteevoting; bananacheese; coronavirus; covid19; dirtyelection; dirtywisconsin; electionfraud; electionintegrity; electionlaws; mailinballots; voterintegrity; voting; votinglaws; wisconsin; wisconzuela

1 posted on 12/21/2020 7:38:38 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

The Banana Cheese Republic of Wisconzuela


2 posted on 12/21/2020 7:44:02 AM PST by kiryandil (Chris Wallace: Because someone has to drive the Clown Car)
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To: Kaslin
But the law only counts if it's prosecuted.

Heh. Crooked government is going to crooked.

3 posted on 12/21/2020 7:51:03 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: Kaslin

It’s not a loophole; it’s election fraud. The Trump team is apparently trying to track down the 250,000+ voters who claimed they were confined.


4 posted on 12/21/2020 7:56:06 AM PST by MikeyB806
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To: Kaslin

Go through the voter rolls in Milwaukee and Dane County, find each vote for Biden cast in that manner and exclude their ballots.


5 posted on 12/21/2020 7:57:59 AM PST by Meatspace
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

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6 posted on 12/21/2020 8:00:12 AM PST by Liz ( Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use. )
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To: MikeyB806

Someone needs to make a wanted poster with her pic and caption WANTED FOR VOTER FRAUD. Maybe a billboard on the way into her homr town.


7 posted on 12/21/2020 8:00:26 AM PST by muskah
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To: Kaslin
And there is NOTHING that can be done about it, you miserable, hopeless deplorables! Just one week ago today...

SUPREME COURT OF WISCONSIN

CASE NO.: 2020AP2038

COMPLETE TITLE:
Donald J. Trump, Michael R. Pence (et al)
        Plaintiffs-Appellants

    v.

    Joseph R. Biden, Kamala D. Harris (et al)
        Defendants-Respondents.

OPINION FILED: December 14, 2020

ORAL ARGUMENT: December 12, 2020

...the Campaign seeks to invalidate the ballots——either directly or through a drawdown——of more than 220,000 Wisconsin voters in Dane and Milwaukee Counties.

The Campaign focuses its objections on four different categories of ballots——each applying only to voters in Dane County and Milwaukee County. First, it seeks to strike all ballots cast by voters who claimed indefinitely confined status since March 25, 2020. Second, it argues that a form used for in-person absentee voting is not a "written application" and therefore all in-person absentee ballots should be struck. Third, it maintains that municipal officials improperly added witness information on absentee ballot certifications, and that these ballots are therefore invalid. Finally, the Campaign asserts that all ballots collected at "Democracy in the Park," two City of Madison events in late September and early October, were illegally cast.

We conclude the Campaign is not entitled to the relief it seeks. The challenge to the indefinitely confined voter ballots is meritless on its face, and the other three categories of ballots challenged fail under the doctrine of laches.


"Meritless on its face." Hundreds of thousands of people flagrantly violated election law and committed felonies with penalties up to a year in prison and it is just dismissed as "Meritless on its face."

It must be nice to live life in a politically favored class.

8 posted on 12/21/2020 8:32:43 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom ("Inside Every Progressive Is A Totalitarian Screaming To Get Out" -- David Horowitz)
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To: Meatspace
Go through the voter rolls in Milwaukee and Dane County, find each vote for Biden cast in that manner and exclude their ballots.

Sorry, the Wisconsin Supreme Court ruled a week ago today that "The [Trump & Pence] challenge to the indefinitely confined voter ballots is meritless on its face."

Yep. Totally and completely without merit. See #8 above.

9 posted on 12/21/2020 8:35:26 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom ("Inside Every Progressive Is A Totalitarian Screaming To Get Out" -- David Horowitz)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

LOL So the Pa court is basically saying that they refuse to throw out fraudulent votes saying it will disenfranchise the fraudsters?? But ignore the legal votes that are being disenfranchised by those same fraudulent votes?!

Good grief! What rope are these idiot judges smoking? Complete joke and BS! Legal sophistry in order to protect the election outcome.


10 posted on 12/21/2020 8:47:08 AM PST by Bellagio
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To: Bellagio

Yep, that summarizes it. All 80 million of us are “disenfranchised” by a blatantly crooked election with maybe 10 million fraudulent votes. But the courts say we can’t “disenfranchise” those 10 million (maybe 7 million of whom are real people). Some are saying it might be 20 million fraudulent votes, too.

The depth of corruption and cheating is staggering beyond belief.


11 posted on 12/21/2020 8:54:25 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom ("Inside Every Progressive Is A Totalitarian Screaming To Get Out" -- David Horowitz)
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To: Meatspace; Liz; All

“Go through the voter rolls in Milwaukee and Dane County, find each vote for Biden cast in that manner and exclude their ballots.”

Gotta fish where the fish are!


12 posted on 12/21/2020 9:36:48 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Kaslin

Every voter who does vote in person should be voting i n their own precinct/ward/district.

NOT driving 250 miles one way to “vote in Madison”.


13 posted on 12/21/2020 10:26:47 AM PST by ridesthemiles ( )
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To: Kaslin; Cboldt; MikeyB806; Meatspace; Liz; muskah; Bellagio; Diana in Wisconsin; ridesthemiles
IIRC, Democrats at the State and Local levels were OPENLY TELLING people to use this loophole, just for the purpose of getting around the ID requirements.

Astonishing. Just so blatant and open about it. As if nobody cares, and they fully realize they will never be prosecuted for voter fraud at the individual level, or election fraud at the local or state level.

I thought some of you on this thread might appreciate this thread I started which explains the workflow of the Dominion Voting Systems that were installed, and how it relates to the fraud uncovered in the Forensic analysis done on the system in Michigan. I fully expect that if this analysis was performed the same way in the key battleground states of Georgia, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Arizona, that the exact same abhorrent practices would be seen.

What struck me is that I had so much trouble finding out exactly what the setup of these systems was like from an IT perspective, and had to try to figure it out from looking at Dominion's own high level block diagram and correlate it to the report.

As another poster said, we shouldn't have to hunt for this information. It should be readily available to EVERY citizen to look at.

I was hoping to get a bit more traffic on it from both IT people who could either add or correct, or general impressions from others:

Link to thread: VANITY-Dominion Democracy Suite Workflow and the Flaws highlighted in the Forensic Analysis

14 posted on 12/21/2020 10:53:42 AM PST by rlmorel ("I’d rather enjoy a risky freedom than a safe servitude." Robby Dinero, USMC Veteran, Gym Owner)
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