Posted on 12/09/2020 1:23:20 PM PST by tarpit
Donald J. Trump, President of the United States, respectfully seeks leave to intervene in the pending original jurisdiction matter of State of Texas v. Com-monwealth of Pennsylvania,et al., No. 22O155 (filed Dec. 7, 2020). Plaintiff in Intervention seeks leave to file the ac-companying Bill of Complaint in Intervention against the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania and the States of Georgia, Michigan, and Wisconsin (“Defendant States”), challenging their administration of the 2020 presidential election.
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Thank you.. that makes sense
The emphasis is on states illegally changing election procedures, not just extending the date.
But the potential for fraud, the lack of accountability introduced to be able to catch frauds, as well as the impact those changes have had on voter confidence in the election process are all brought up as consequences of those illegal changes.
Lol
Thanks for the clarification.
‘Standing’ is a vague amorphous concept that mysteriously causes cases to be dropped
Not quite: it's about changes to election processes done by the judicial and executive branches of the states being sued, since it is stated in the Constitution that the manner of selecting electors to the Electoral College happens "as the legislature may direct".
It is already precedent, that not even a State Constitution has the power to take away the rights of the legislature to determine how electors are chosen -- because the US Constitution is the Supreme Law of the land, and any law which contradicts it is null and void to start with.
That way the Supreme Court can act as arbiters of the law rather than finders of fact, if they want to duck messy situations and appear "apolitical."
No hablo.
Once the fraud election is overturned...I am hoping the state legislatures can go after the culprits in their state for ruining their chance to elect a president. Hopefully wolf and shapiro will be removed from office, and jailed for 5 to 10 to get them out of the way of the political scene.
Part of it is goofiness. Part of it is exclusiveness. And part of it is stuff that comes down in an unbroken line of common law that goes back for centuries. That last part is kind of cool actually.
In speaking to the courts, you sometimes gotta use that language. When speaking to others, it’s pomposity to not just talk everyday language.
How does one prove possible fraud? I suppose it had to be done first. I have a sneaking feeling that Trump knew it would be done...and he was waiting and watching...and he knew where and what would be done. Fraud has certainly has been done before.
The first part of what you said that should Trump have filed the suit directly on the federal process he would have to start at the bottom district court level to eventually reach the Court of Appeals and SC is correct
However this is a motion to intervene alleging he has legal standing and albeit this is a dispute between states, there is also a Federal question that directly impacted his reelection and thus he has standing to intervene This is a motion to intervene and if the SC grants the motion, it is confirming his legal standing and cannot later deny it.
Specifically, the brief reads,..”the violations of state election law, which is the “manner” the Legislatures of the States have established for choosing presidential electors, violates the Electors Clause of the U.S. Constitution and thus this matter arises under federal law. See Bush v Gore, 531 U.S. 98, 113 (2000) (“significant departure from the legislative scheme for appointing Presidential electors presents a federal constitutional question”) (Rehnquist, C.J., concurring).
Moreover, as explained more fully in the complaint filed by Texas, the number of ballots affected by illegal conduct of state elections officials greatly exceeds the current margin between Plaintiff in Intervention and his opponent in the election for the Office of President in each of the respective Defendant States, and the four Defendant States collectively have a sufficient number of electoral votes to affect the result of the vote in the Electoral College for the Office of President. Proposed Plaintiff in Intervention therefore clearly has a stake in the outcome of this litigation.”
Trump gets a second term ? Not gonna happen folks, the government is the deep state, one world government,whatever you want to call it. The cabal is a combination of intelligence agencies around the world and puppet governments.
Barr , Durham, ect, all deep state.
There is only one way my friends, Pray to God, Jesus, our Lord and savior.
May the Lord God look over us and forgive us our sins.
#BREAKING: Trump asks Cruz to argue Texas case https://t.co/4Tlp62d9iU pic.twitter.com/ZmZs2sCaAR— The Hill (@thehill) December 9, 2020
read it all. it is eminently reasonable and focused. only a fool would reject it and it’s arguments.
it is particularly eloquent on its condemnation of the SOS of Georgia, Raffensperger.
Thank you for that article. Yes. That is a very good point. Also, I was trying to make the point that legal pundits, like Steve Vladeck, made - they are not optimistic in the success of the case at all for the reasons provided by Steve. I also like Steve’s comments about how all this hurts the independence of the Court and all for political advancement.
Read it. It’s worth the time.
Posting just to be on the possibly MOST HISTORIC thread ever.
Ya, I was there...
Unfortunately, your main point here is totally irrelevant to the case under discussion.
When and if some kind of unspecified "somethings" should have been done simply avoids the central issue.
Grave--perhaps fatal-- injuries to the electorial process have been perpetrated by different agencies and on different legislative venues. The very heart and soul of representative government is under attack by Democrat fraudsters attempting to break our Constitutional system.
The very essence and existential reason for a Supreme Court lies in this kind of case--an attack on the Executive Branch. Of all cases this Court may address, this one will be the most crucial--a case that can be handled only by the Supreme Court of the Nation.
The Supreme Court must--and will-take this crucial case and must--and will--find for the representative of the Executive Branch now undergoing an unlawful assault.
Joe Biden will be forced to limp away into political obscurity and President Trump will remain at home in the Executive Mansion for four more glorious years.
“””I dont believe SCOTUS will rule that way. I am not even expecting them to allow the plaintiff to continue.”””
Thank you for challenging my assumptions. Upon further review, this is what I believe will happen.
1. SCOTUS will tell the political parties. Quit bringing your political disagreements to the court. Our forefathers gave us a Constitution more than 200 years ago that clearly spelled out the rules for conducting elections.
2. First Constitutional rule. If a State Legislature does not agree with the popular vote in their state, they have the power to override the popular vote by selecting their own electors.
3. Second Constitutional rule. If the US House of Representatives does not agree with the Electoral College vote, the House of Representatives can override the Electoral College and select their own President.
And if I were SCOTUS I would also say. “Political parties, we live in 2020 and there is no excuse for illegal voting as we have more computer power than ever to detect and prevent illegal voters. Just do it!!!”
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