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Virginia Military Institute Removes Statue of Confederate Gen. 'Stonewall' Jackson
NPR ^ | 12/07/20 | DUSTIN JONES

Posted on 12/07/2020 4:19:22 PM PST by Enlightened1

The Virginia Military Institute removed a statue of Confederate Gen. Thomas "Stonewall" Jackson on Monday morning. A small group watched as the bronze figure was hoisted off its pedestal in front of the VMI barracks.

The historic figure is being relocated from the campus in Lexington, Va., to its future home at the Virginia Museum of the Civil War and New Market Battlefield State Historical Park.

The statue was sculpted by Moses Ezekiel, a member of the class of 1866, and donated to VMI in 1912. And after standing for more than a century, VMI's board voted in favor of its removal in October.

Confederate statues across the U.S. came under attack over the summer as the nation wrestled with issues of racial injustice. VMI, the oldest state-supported military university in the country, was thrust into the spotlight after a Washington Post article alleged Black cadets and alumni endured "relentless racism."

The university was reluctant to remove the statue. Jackson was a professor at VMI before joining the Confederacy in 1861. Many of the institute's cadets served as drill instructors at Camp Lee when the Civil War started and others served and died in the name of the Confederacy.

The school's former superintendent, retired Army Gen. J.H. Binford Peay III, resigned shortly after an investigation into the allegations was announced. The interim superintendent, retired Army Maj. Gen. Cedric T. Wins, is the first African American to assume the position, The Associated Press reported last month.

"VMI does not define itself by this statue and that is why this move is appropriate. We are defined by our unique system of education and the quality and character of the graduates the Institute produces," Wins, a 1985 VMI graduate, said in a news release. "Our graduates embody the values of honor, respect, civility...

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: grovel; removes; statue; stonewalljackson; vmi
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To: Enlightened1

“the oldest state-supported military university in the country, was thrust into the spotlight after a Washington Post article alleged Black cadets and alumni endured “relentless racism.”

Of course the unnamed black cadets never back up these assertions with verified facts.


61 posted on 12/07/2020 5:44:33 PM PST by Tallguy (Facts be d@mned! The narrative must be protected at all costs!)
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To: GreyFriar
"LTG John A. Lejeune, USMC, Graduate and VMI Commandant during the Depression, who kept the school open during those lean years."

And a Louisiana "good ole boy" born and raised about five miles from my home town in Pointe Coupee Parish. Members of his family are buried in the cemetery of my baptismal church.

62 posted on 12/07/2020 5:45:46 PM PST by Wonder Warthog (No Longer Tolerating Trolls!)
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To: Carry me back

I think at that point they felt it was better to do it than to let others come in and totally destroy the school. I ‘ve believed for years the Dems know the elections are rigged in Virginia or they wouldn’t be this bold. They know most of the state is against things like this. The deep state thugs are carrying out agenda 21 to destroy American monuments. They’ve targeted Virginia because Virginia has the most and they ‘ve rigged elections.


63 posted on 12/07/2020 5:46:37 PM PST by Carry me back (Cut the feds by 90%)
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To: wardaddy

Sadly and unfortunately as he should.
I stopped donating as I did with the civil war trust aka “American battlefield trust” and canceled my subscription to America’s civil, and the civil war times.


64 posted on 12/07/2020 5:49:28 PM PST by StoneWall Brigade (Live Free or Die)
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To: wattojawa

Ping to # 59


65 posted on 12/07/2020 5:56:18 PM PST by lightman (I am a binary Trinitarian. Deal with it!)
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To: ought-six

Please. Stop the diatribe.

“He IS Stonewall Jackson”

He stood for HIS principles and values to protect the honor of his values.

Why does his Memoriam have to be moved?

Make a duplicate and move it miles away. Why change and now?

Lets’ move the Washington Monument every year to each state so that they can have fun too.

STONEWALL stood for HIS values and principles for a reason. Change the rules a century and a half later.

Honor the man and not the trophy.


66 posted on 12/07/2020 5:59:04 PM PST by Dacula (Don't NY - MY GA!)
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To: ought-six

“Jackson was also a brilliant military tactician, and a fierce warrior who placed duty and honor above any personal ambition (of which he had next to none). It is my opinion that Lee lost at Gettysburg because he fought the battle as he’d have fought it had he still had Jackson. That is where Lee erred, and fatally.”

Disagree. Jackson was super aggressive to be sure. And he was superb while operating independently in the Valley Campaign. But he also pretty much failed during The Seven Days. He also put some pretty good subordinate commanders in hack.


67 posted on 12/07/2020 6:00:13 PM PST by Tallguy (Facts be d@mned! The narrative must be protected at all costs!)
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Can we change the black and slave history to report the true facts?

Black Africans sold them as slaves and enemies.

MLK NEVER cheated on his wife.

Dare I go on?


68 posted on 12/07/2020 6:01:27 PM PST by Dacula (Don't NY - MY GA!)
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To: EinNYC

They have plenty of comrades here at FR


69 posted on 12/07/2020 6:07:07 PM PST by Pelham (Liberate the Democrats from their Communist occupation)
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To: Vermont Lt

“He IS VMI”

Jackson Arch on the barracks side has (had) an inscription “you may be whatever you resolve to be”

VMI resolved not to be when they banished Jackson.

What inscription will replace that, I wonder?


70 posted on 12/07/2020 6:13:34 PM PST by RFEngineer
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To: Dacula

Uh, I think you intended your comment for another poster, as it is in no way applicably responsive to mine.


71 posted on 12/07/2020 6:14:01 PM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: ought-six

My apologies. I typically clear out the ‘To’ section and put All.

In no way did I mean to disparage you and I sincerely apologize.


72 posted on 12/07/2020 6:23:43 PM PST by Dacula (Don't NY - MY GA!)
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To: ought-six

I have no excuse except for my lack of attention to detail.


73 posted on 12/07/2020 6:24:46 PM PST by Dacula (Don't NY - MY GA!)
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To: DoughtyOne

“Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.”— U.S. Constitution, Art. III, section 1, clause 1.


74 posted on 12/07/2020 6:27:01 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Enlightened1

Fuckers


75 posted on 12/07/2020 6:32:45 PM PST by enumerated
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To: Lurking Libertarian

Thanks for the mention.

I would urge folks to think about what is taking place. Is it
a homegrown problem? No. There are enemies foreign and
domestic in on this.

These pull from European’s leftists in these operations.

They are being trained by enemies of the state. We have a
Constitution of the United States. Citizens are tasked with
living within it’s tenets. It’s not to much to ask.

Our leaders swear an oath to it. Any leader not adhering to
the Constitution should be removed from office.

What do these people think “enemies foreign and domestic”
means? It means just that. If we have people supporting
terrorists on the streets of our nation, they are not in
accordance with the Constitution of the United States.

When people swear and oath to support the Constitution of
the United States, that’s exactly what they “have to be”
doing. If they aren’t, they have breached the oath they
took to hold the job that requires an oath.

Many in Congress could be challenged on this concept.

You don’t get the pick and choose what you observe. You are
require by your oath to observe every bit of it.

We have folks who are terrorists, and we have folks in high
places who are supporting them. We have law enforcement
officials ordering their officers not to abide by and enforce
the laws on the books.

If we had a Justice Department worth it’s salt, it would
be indicting officials across this nation. We don’t.

So yeah, I know the language of the Constitution, and > IMO
we have folks going over the bounds of treason.

They are consorting with international efforts to harm the
United States.


76 posted on 12/07/2020 7:06:50 PM PST by DoughtyOne (I'm calling for terrorist and criminal reform. Defund them now.)
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To: Tallguy

“Disagree. Jackson was super aggressive to be sure. And he was superb while operating independently in the Valley Campaign. But he also pretty much failed during The Seven Days. He also put some pretty good subordinate commanders in hack.”

Jackson arrived at Mechanicsville after a grueling forced march from the Shenandoah Valley. Lee had just recently taken over from Johnston, who had been seriously wounded early in the Peninsula Campaign, and had intended for Jackson — coming in from the northwest — to put pressure on McClellan’s right flank and “roll it up.” Upon arriving late in the day after the forced march, Jackson determined that his exhausted army could not continue as an effective fighting force without a rest. That was the delay that some historians always point out as a mistake by Jackson. They, of course, were not Jackson, nor were they with his army. If any criticism of Jackson could be credibly levied it would be his action at White Oak when he wasted time trying to rebuild a bridge across the creek. Well, Jackson was not the engineer Lee was.

Jackson was aggressive, but he was not a fool. The fact is that Jackson’s force would have been dead on its feet if it had been thrown in to roll up McClellan’s flank at that time, which would have put that force at risk. There was no doubt anyway that McClellan was going to be able to effect a retreat; the question was how much damage could be inflicted on his army before that. So, inflict some more damage on McClellan but at the risk of losing Jackson’s force, or at best having it significantly degraded?

You have to remember that the Federal forces on the Peninsula were concentrated, and within supporting distance of each other, for the attempt to take Richmond. The Confederate forces however were spread out all over, and were being rushed toward the defense of Richmond. Jackson’s force was the most distant. It is testament to Jackson’s leadership that he got his force in position when he did, but he also knew that by delaying he would allow his force to recover from the march, and at the same time prevent McClellan’s right from making any pincer move on Richmond.

Jackson’s actions at the close of the Peninsula Campaign (the Seven Days) were admittedly not up to the stellar efforts he had shown in the Shenandoah or later at Fredericksburg and Chancellorsville. But one must consider the totality of the facts present, and draw conclusions or pass make judgments accordingly.


77 posted on 12/07/2020 7:47:00 PM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: Dacula

“I have no excuse except for my lack of attention to detail.”

A trait with which we are all afflicted.


78 posted on 12/07/2020 7:48:41 PM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: DiogenesLamp

Why did the southern states feel their right to own slaves was under attack and stated as such in their secession documents if that wastn the case?

Missippi:

“Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery— the greatest material interest of the world. Its labor supplies the product which constitutes by far the largest and most important portions of commerce of the earth. These products are peculiar to the climate verging on the tropical regions, and by an imperious law of nature, none but the black race can bear exposure to the tropical sun. These products have become necessities of the world, and a blow at slavery is a blow at commerce and civilization. That blow has been long aimed at the institution, and was at the point of reaching its consummation. There was no choice left us but submission to the mandates of abolition, or a dissolution of the Union, whose principles had been subverted to work out our ruin. That we do not overstate the dangers to our institution, a reference to a few facts will sufficiently prove.

THE HOSTILITY TO THIS INSTITUTION commenced before the adoption of the Constitution, and was manifested in the well-known Ordinance of 1787, in regard to the Northwestern Territory.”


79 posted on 12/07/2020 8:14:50 PM PST by FreshPrince
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To: FreshPrince
There were only four states out of 11 that made such statements, and they weren't even the important states such as Virginia, or Alabama.

Look up Virginia's secession statement and tell me *WHY* Virginia decided to secede.

80 posted on 12/07/2020 8:19:02 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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