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WAFFLE: Arizona House Speaker Claims They Can’t Enforce Constitution, Won’t Commit To Calling Legislative Hearing
National File ^ | December 4, 2020 | JACK HADFIELD

Posted on 12/04/2020 8:28:36 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum

Arizona House Speaker Rusty Bowers claims the state cannot enforce the Constitution regarding Electors, and won’t commit to calling a legislative hearing. Speaker Bowers was one of the top Arizona legislators who on Friday called for an immediate and “expeditious” forensic audit of the Dominion voting machines and software used in Maricopa County, due to concerns that the machines may have been used to assist in massive voter fraud.

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: Legislative Leaders call for audit of Maricopa County election software and equipment #AZSenate #AZleg #Election @AZHouseGOP pic.twitter.com/wDlr7v0fDT

— AZSenateRepublicans (@AZSenateGOP) December 4, 2020

However, following the publication of that statement, Bowers came out with one of his own, claiming that “the rule of law” forbids the overturning of certified election results, which Arizona has already done, even if there was clear evidence of voter fraud.

“The Trump team made claims that the election was tainted by fraud, but presented only theories, not proof,” Bowers said in the statement. “If such evidence existed, the Arizona Legislature simply couldn’t do what is being asked,” referring to calls for the Arizona Legislature to take control of the state’s Electoral College votes, claiming it would require a bipartisan supermajority to even call a special session to begin to contest it.

ARIZONA: GOP Chair Kelli Ward Calls for Immediate Legislative Hearing Into Voter Fraud

He argued that current Arizona law gives the power to voters to decide who wins the election. “The law was aimed at ensuring that Arizona’s electors would remain faithful to the vote of the people,” Speaker Bowers claimed, saying that “nothing in the US Constitution or the decisions of the US Supreme Court even suggests that the Arizona Legilsature could retroactively appoint different electors who would cast their ballots for different candidates.”

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KEYWORDS: arizona; muhserver; rustybowers; yellowstreak
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To: FreedomVsControl

They will likely re-elect them all.


21 posted on 12/04/2020 9:02:47 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents|Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

These spineless, a-hole Republicans like this are the reason we will have a new party with Trump as the head and these idiots will find themselves just like those in the Lincoln Project — pushed off to the side. Spinless people like this guy should never be in any position representing anybody.


22 posted on 12/04/2020 9:03:23 PM PST by falcon99 (qu)
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To: bigbob

SCOTUS will likely not take it up.

It takes four to hear it, I don’t think we have even four.


23 posted on 12/04/2020 9:07:16 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents|Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: falcon99

You’re either standing with the fraud or against it. This national disgrace is exposing them all for who they are. The best of humanity lies within the unheralded patriots- the everyday citizens who are far more worthy than most of their Representative pukes in government.


24 posted on 12/04/2020 9:14:12 PM PST by tflabo (Truth or tyranny )
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To: linMcHlp

According to some things I have been reading, in this instance the state legislature is an arm of the federal govt, not subject to the state constitution, and can call a special session to appoint a slate of electors. It is called a plenary power and neither a previous legislature or the state constitution can void it. The reason the constitution specifically allows this, is because of a fraudulent election. The state legislature is failing in their constitution duty by not calling a special session and correcting this problem of massive fraud. In fact, a case could be made they are violating the law by not doing so.

In fact, I would claim that given the clear evidence of RICO crimes (among other crimes) every single legislature in the union should call themselves into a special session and deal with this.


25 posted on 12/04/2020 9:18:43 PM PST by erkelly
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Like I’ve said, you can always count on the cowardice of the GOP.


26 posted on 12/04/2020 9:22:08 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (If the meanings in the Constitution can change, why did they bother writing it down?)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I am appalled that Republican political leaders are this stupid not to know the legislators power under Article 2 of the US Constitution.


27 posted on 12/04/2020 9:23:20 PM PST by Savage Rider
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To: El Cid

Republicans seem like they are working hard to lose the Senate.

These losers are so good at losing its remarkable!


28 posted on 12/04/2020 9:25:01 PM PST by roses of sharon ("Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise." Luke 23:43)
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To: erkelly
According to some things I have been reading, in this instance the state legislature is an arm of the federal govt, not subject to the state constitution, and can call a special session to appoint a slate of electors. It is called a plenary power and neither a previous legislature or the state constitution can void it. The reason the constitution specifically allows this, is because of a fraudulent election. The state legislature is failing in their constitution duty by not calling a special session and correcting this problem of massive fraud. In fact, a case could be made they are violating the law by not doing so.

In fact, I would claim that given the clear evidence of RICO crimes (among other crimes) every single legislature in the union should call themselves into a special session and deal with this.


Whatever you've been reading that told you that... stop. It's nonsense.

The constitution recognizes the concept of federalism. The states are never an "arm of the federal government". The state legislatures created the state constitution and, within the state, it's the highest law there is. The state legislatures are ALWAYS subject to the state constitution.
29 posted on 12/04/2020 9:29:44 PM PST by Boise3981
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Running a gauntlet of loudly slamming doors.


30 posted on 12/04/2020 9:39:32 PM PST by lee martell
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To: erkelly

“given the clear evidence of RICO crimes (among other crimes) every single legislature in the union should call themselves into a special session and deal with this”


31 posted on 12/04/2020 9:46:18 PM PST by linMcHlp
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To: Boise3981

The simple truth is that a state constitution cannot violate the U.S. Constitution and be a state. Now go read Art. II of the U.S. Constitution before you post more misleading opinion.


32 posted on 12/04/2020 10:09:04 PM PST by RideForever (We were born to be tested)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Statistics are evidence. Levels of probability are evidence; and there is a “beyond a reasonable doubt” level among those levels of probability.

Though odd-ball, or rare, or less likely, events can occur and some do occur, there remain preponderance levels of probability.

Such, are used every day, in order to support the use of medications, and is a major part of pharmacological research.


33 posted on 12/04/2020 10:12:52 PM PST by linMcHlp
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To: Paladin2

The main reason state legislators are so weak and corrupt today is that most voters don’t know who they are or what they do.

If state legislators had the power to select Senators, and actually took back their powers, e.g. to write election laws, citizens would pay far more attention to whom they’re electing in their own backyards, rather than being mesmerized by their governors or by the grandstanding buffoons in DC.


34 posted on 12/04/2020 10:18:37 PM PST by rfp1234 (Caveat Emperor)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Statistics are evidence.

They are used to prove the worth-while-ness of many production processes.

They are used to prove what rises to the level of “fire proof.”

They are used to establish reliability levels of many products.


35 posted on 12/04/2020 10:25:10 PM PST by linMcHlp
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Certifying fraud, disenfranchises every lawful, registered voter.


36 posted on 12/04/2020 10:29:23 PM PST by linMcHlp
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To: Boise3981

Re: “The state legislatures are ALWAYS subject to the state constitution.”

Only up to the point where they violate federal law or the United States Constitution and its Amendments.

Also...

If Joe Biden and the Democrat Party had been fraudulently deprived of the Presidency, I am quite sure we would be having a much different national and legal conversation than we are having about Trump and the GOP.


37 posted on 12/04/2020 10:53:24 PM PST by zeestephen
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

They took an oath of office which included upholding the Constitution of the United States. If they say they can’t do that, then they need to be taken out and shot.


38 posted on 12/04/2020 11:10:45 PM PST by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
John Eastman explained to the Georgia legislators yesterday why they are not bound by all of their usual labyrinthine bureaucratic procedures when it comes to exercising their authority to appoint electors. He clearly told them that their constitutional authority in this regard is plenary, and entirely separate from their legislative function.

These legislators are getting all wound in knots (probably willingly) by their usual legislative process, but none of that applies here. They can do absolutely anything they want in the pursuit of properly selecting their slate of electors, and no one else has any say in it.

39 posted on 12/04/2020 11:21:13 PM PST by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.`)
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To: linMcHlp

Re: Statistics are evidence.

True...

But, not until they are attached to a formal criminal complaint.

Who committed this crime? How? Where? When?

What is the specific criminal statute that has been violated?

Without a criminal complaint, statistics are just statistics.


40 posted on 12/04/2020 11:34:00 PM PST by zeestephen
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