Posted on 12/04/2020 5:52:16 PM PST by kellymcneill
Mainstream media and social media legal “scholars” have been celebrating a decision by Justice Samuel Alito. After accepting U.S. Congressman Mike Kelly’s petition challenging the results of the presidential election, Justice Alito set a deadline of December 9th for the state to respond. It’s a conspicuous date since the so-called “Safe Harbor” date for picking electors is December 8th.
This has been interpreted by nearly everyone as an indication the Supreme Court does not want to get involved with the election shenanigans, and that very well may be the case. But in this particularly scenario, it would behoove a reluctant Supreme Court to act quickly and decisively if they do not want to get involved because this petition has many challenges. It’s likely to be thrown out, as lower courts have, because the decisions in question have been in place for months but Pennsylvania Republicans did not act until after President Trump appeared to lose. This calls into question their motivation and resolve; a quick dismissal by the Supreme Court would play towards their perceived stance of not wanting to get involved.
By slow-playing this petition, it’s very possible Justice Alito is giving Republicans an open door to contest not only the election results but the electors as well. Below is the provision for “Safe Harbor” in which I highlighted two relevant pieces of information.
(Excerpt) Read more at noqreport.com ...
If former vice President Biden dies from say lead poisoning or a stroke before he takes the oath, Donald Trump becomes the elected President
Are you sure of that? Why have a VP on the ticket? BTW Good morning, bro.
If SCOTUS rules that PA didn’t follow the proper procedures, it could declare it didn’t meet the Safe Harbor requirements. That would be significant, as it would deny the elector certification by the governor the presumption of validity in Congress. SCOTUS could also state that this is an issue for PA state legislature to address, embarrassing the PA state senators who refused to address the issue.
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That’s what I think. I don’t think they want to decide the election, so they are going to throw it to the legislators or congress.
I have a hard time believing they would set the date for the 9th, only to say ... Oh sorry, you missed the date.
That makes no sense. Why take it at all?
LOL. You've completely tossed overboard any possibility of having a mature discussion.
The US Constitution is the supreme law of the land. I'm sorry that bothers you so much.
You’re sorry that bothers me so much? LOL you just exposed what you are, concern troll. You are the category of residents in the US that has landed us where we are now, on the brink of extinction. Fear of impeachment? You tickle me. My president has already had Shiffty do that. You are a disgusting enemy of truth. The Constitution has been being ignored for more than a decade. Do fools like you actually believe obamaroid was eligible? Hah! Your type replies to that ‘well the house didn’t reject him’. And therein is your sign of fool. Your type loves the corruption because it makes truth fungible, a thing to be twisted and manipulated. The Saul Alinsky play book is just dripping from your smarm. ‘Make them play by the rules while you skirt them at will’
Must there be separation f powers when the Republic is at stake?
We need and honest accounting of the real vote. We need the legal wheat separated from the illegal chaff.
Name calling, weak logic, can’t stick to the topic and just meanders off on a tangent. Pretty sad coming from someone that is advocating for martial law.
Work on your facts, logic and reasoning. Your arguments will be the better for it and will help to improve your assertion that martial law is needed to fix this election. That step is not taken lightly.
Sorry, but the powers outlined in the US Constitution are superior to the Insurrection Act. Wishing it were not that way does not make it so.
The Insurrection Act does not place the Federal Judiciary or Legislature under the control of the Executive or stop them from functioning.
Oh Lord. My Grandmother used to make me watch that.
I’d be interested in your thoughts on the following - which I’ve posted on some other threads. TIA.
“At what point do the Republican Secretaries of State and Attorneys General in the states that POTUS won, file federal law suits presenting the cumulative evidence of fraud across the various contested states as violations of the 14th Amendment, and dilution and disenfranchisement of their citizens? Why not now and why not give it a try?
It’d seem to me that: (1) this would be one way to fast track the situation to SCOTUS (2) present all the evidence gathered by Giuliani, Powell and others (3) that the issue of standing will be moot (4) given certifications of the vote in the contested states, that the matter will be ripe, and (5) create a federal case that can be subjected to further investigation.”
I think it’s probably a more viable path than one directed at the state legislatures. The outcome of the case, however, could provide the impetus for the legislatures to do their constitutional duty.
What are you trying to portray with your little tagline image? Obsessed with something are you? The day I would lend any credulity to your spittlegeist is not coming around, so don’t hold your breath.
Focus, fool. This is about Treason, more than about the election. Foreign enemies have sought to overthrow the Government and fools like you are helping it with your misdirection crap.
The Insurrection Act has been law since 1807 in one form or another, and that law replaced the earlier Calling Forth Act of 1792. It has never been declared unconstitutional by any court, and the legislature is unlikely to amend it presently to deprive POTUS of powers already granted. The Insurrection Act is about the powers of the Commander-In-Chief to address insurrectiona and deprivation of constitutional right. Should POTUS use that act to address deprivations of those rights and foreign interference in U.S. elections, it will be because state and federal courts have not addressed those issues by using excuses such as standing, lack of harm to voters, laches, etc. Note those courts haven’t ruled that the elections were all fair, just that for some techncial reason the court won’t address the obvious problem. POTUS doesn’t have to play dumb to what is happening too, and then those courts and legislatures will either act or look foolish.
“At what point do the Republican Secretaries of State and Attorneys General in the states that POTUS won, file federal law suits presenting the cumulative evidence of fraud across the various contested states as violations of the 14th Amendment, and dilution and disenfranchisement of their citizens? Why not now and why not give it a try?
? It must be left over from an old tagline - it wasn't an image. And you call *me* obsessed? LOL!!!!
"...misdirection crap.
Anyone who refers to my noting the US Constitution as "misdirection crap" needs to review that document. I'd also suggest taking at look at the Federalist and Anti-Federalist papers. Get to work ;)
Specifically, I was referring to the power of impeachment. I do not believe the Insurrection Act strips the House of the ability to impeach, nor the Senate to convict. Someone suggested it does.
There are already some advocating for mass arrests, the suspension of habeas corpus, etc. On this site.
I don't believe President Trump will invoke the Insurrection Act, declare martial law, etc. We shall see.
for bush v gore it was a procedural decision.
we need to be thinking “what is their procedural options?”
something that bypasses the need for the feckless legislators who have no spines nor the education to act.
No. SC is hoping time runs out and they can avoid this mess.
Actually, the "absolute final day" -- the only date provided by the Constitution regarding elections -- is January 20th. The dates of 12/8 to select electors and 12/14 for the Electoral College to meet are set by a 1948 federal statute which, in this case where there is overwhelming evidence of fraud, could presumably if not logically be set aside by the USSC.
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