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“Pandemic is Over” – Former Pfizer Chief Science Officer Says “Second Wave” Faked
populist.press ^ | 11/22/2020 | Tyler Durden Sun

Posted on 11/23/2020 11:43:20 PM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com

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To: CodeToad; Mom MD

Everyone is indoors now where it is easier to pass germs of any kind?


41 posted on 11/24/2020 5:24:06 AM PST by piusv (Francis didn't start the Fire)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Bookmark


42 posted on 11/24/2020 5:33:01 AM PST by HypatiaTaught
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To: mewzilla

is it real? yes. do people get sick? yes. do people die? yes.

but it is without a doubt exaggerated, overhyped and being exploited. one of the indications of this is the various state, local, DOH websites. months ago all the stats were right there on a homepage dashboard. sub-divided, sorted, categorized, sliced & diced in every/any conceivable way.

now you need to search for the numbers you want. just before labor day I looked up numbers for my county/area. assuming no false positives, every “case” was flat-on-their-back sick and every death was FROM covid and nothing but covid the numbers showed 99.6% of the population didn’t get sick and 99.94% didn’t die.

of course there were false positives (and I’ve read several accouns/descriptions regarding hypersensitive testing methods), of course some people thought they had nothing more than a nasty cold. and of course some deaths were WITH covid and not from covid. so these survival rates are even better.

and....at the time the numbers showed 2/3 of the deaths were people over 70 years old.

also at the time the number of people tested was approaching 90% of the population. I looked for that (county) number this morning and can’t find it. the NYS numbers showed 87% of the population tested. unless some were tested twice. or three times. is a positive test each time counted as 3 cases? I’d bet yes. what will it mean when the % of those tested exceeds 100%? that people are being tested multiple times and multiple positives are probably counted.

the county numbers did show an 3-fold increase in “cases” (there’s that word again) in the last 3 months and only 23 additional deaths. so in the last 3 months 23 people out of 9,000 have died.

again, assuming all FROM covid, a staggering 0.25% death rate


43 posted on 11/24/2020 5:35:13 AM PST by wny
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Only thing the second wave, cases, cases, cases was for is to change voting rules so dems could cheat. The tin foil side of me says that covid was released specifically so dems could make us miserable and so they could cheat. Their two favorite things.


44 posted on 11/24/2020 5:51:51 AM PST by Pollard (Bunch of curmudgeons)
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To: Slyfox

Excellent graph!


45 posted on 11/24/2020 5:56:17 AM PST by azkathy (We the people are FED UP-pun intended)
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To: Does so
Nitrous oxide.

Nitrous oxide has the chemical formula N2O.

In contrast, nitric oxide has the formula NO.

"In mammals, including humans, nitric oxide is a signaling molecule in many physiological and pathological processes." - Wikipedia

So which is it here? And what in tarnation is NOS?

Regards,

46 posted on 11/24/2020 6:02:40 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: carriage_hill; Grampa Dave; DoughtyOne; Mom MD

Ping.


47 posted on 11/24/2020 6:06:53 AM PST by lightman (I am a binary Trinitarian. Deal with it!)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

BTT


48 posted on 11/24/2020 6:19:07 AM PST by GailA (TRUMP IS A GUTSY PRESIDENT)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com; All

Just so that everyone knows, FascistBook **instantaneously** listed this article as false, and censored it...so I put the link into a comment.

Spread the word - use if the OCR test, especially using 40 cycles, results in a high percentage of positive readings with absolutely zero clinical meaning - it is designed simply to find the RNA from this virus, which in most cases is broken-up particles of RNA that cannot make you sick or infect anyone else. It just means that you’ve been exposed and your immune system dealt with the virus by literally tearing it to pieces. Note that 40 cycles increases the amount of particles by a factor of 1 trillion (with a “t”) - this would make you positive for almost anything, and be just as meaningless.


49 posted on 11/24/2020 6:27:11 AM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. )
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Even a Military/US Marines-Enforced Quarantine Can’t Stop the Virus, Study Reveals:

Jeffrey A. Tucker American Institute for Economic Research

– November 13, 2020
AIER >> Daily Economy >> Regulation >> Authoritarianism
The New England Journal of Medicine has published a study that goes to the heart of the issue of lock downs. The question has always been whether and to what extent a lock down, however extreme, is capable of suppressing the virus.
If so, you can make an argument that at least lock downs, despite their astronomical social and economic costs, achieve something. If not, nations of the world have embarked on a catastrophic experiment that has destroyed billions of lives, and all expectation of human rights and liberties, with no payoff at all.

[The earliest version of this article misstated the conditions of the control group. They were equally locked down with those who participated in the study. The difference between the two concerned testing frequency and the isolation response.

This does not affect this article’s conclusion; indeed it strengthens it: even under extreme measures, the virus spread, and more so with the extra measure intended to control the virus. Nearly all infections were without symptoms.]

AIER has long highlighted studies that show no gain in virus management from lock downs. Even as early as April, a major data scientist said that this virus becomes endemic in 70 days after the first round of infection, regardless of policies. The largest global study of lock downs compared with deaths as published in The Lancet found no association between coercive stringencies and deaths per million.

To test further might seem superfluous but, for whatever reason, governments all over the world, including in the US, still are under the impression that they can affect viral transmissions through a range of “non pharmaceutical interventions” (NPIs) like mandatory masks, forced human separation, stay-at-home orders, bans of gatherings, business and school closures, and extreme travel restrictions.

Nothing like this has been tried on this scale in the whole of human history, so one might suppose that policy makers have some basis for their confidence that these measures accomplish something.

A study conducted by Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai in cooperation with the Naval Medical Research Center sought to test lock downs along with testing and isolation. In May, 3,143 new recruits to the Marines were given the option to participate in a study of frequent testing under extreme quarantine.

The study was called CHARM, which stands for COVID-19 Health Action Response for Marines. Of the recruits asked, a total of 1,848 young people agreed to be guinea pigs in this experiment which involved “which included weekly qPCR testing and blood sampling for IgG antibody assessment.” In addition, the CHARM study volunteers who did test positively “on the day of enrollment (day 0) or on day 7 or day 14 were separated from their roommates and were placed in isolation.”

What did the recruits have to do? The study explains, and, as you will see, they faced an even more strict regime that has existed in civilian life in most places. All recruits, even those not in the CHARM group, did the following.

All recruits wore double-layered cloth masks at all times indoors and outdoors, except when sleeping or eating; practiced social distancing of at least 6 feet; were not allowed to leave campus; did not have access to personal electronics and other items that might contribute to surface transmission; and routinely washed their hands. They slept in double-occupancy rooms with sinks, ate in shared dining facilities, and used shared bathrooms.

All recruits cleaned their rooms daily, sanitized bathrooms after each use with bleach wipes, and ate preplated meals in a dining hall that was cleaned with bleach after each platoon had eaten.

Most instruction and exercises were conducted outdoors. All movement of recruits was supervised, and unidirectional flow was implemented, with designated building entry and exit points to minimize contact among persons.

All recruits, regardless of participation in the study, underwent daily temperature and symptom screening. Six instructors who were assigned to each platoon worked in 8-hour shifts and enforced the quarantine measures.

If recruits reported any signs or symptoms consistent with Covid-19, they reported to sick call, underwent rapid qPCR testing for SARS-CoV-2, and were placed in isolation pending the results of testing.

Instructors were also restricted to campus, were required to wear masks, were provided with preplated meals, and underwent daily temperature checks and symptom screening. Instructors who were assigned to a platoon in which a positive case was diagnosed underwent rapid qPCR testing for SARS-CoV-2, and, if the result was positive, the instructor was removed from duty.

Recruits and instructors were prohibited from interacting with campus support staff, such as janitorial and food-service personnel. After each class completed quarantine, a deep bleach cleaning of surfaces was performed in the bathrooms, showers, bedrooms, and hallways in the dormitories, and the dormitory remained unoccupied for at least 72 hours before reoccupancy.

The reputation of Marine basic training is that it is tough going but this really does take it to another level. Also, this is an environment where those in charge do not mess around. There was surely close to 100% compliance, as compared with, for example, a typical college campus.

What were the results? The virus still spread, though 90% of those who tested positive were without symptoms. Incredibly, 2% of the CHARM recruits still contracted the virus, even if all but one remained asymptomatic. “Our study showed that in a group of predominantly young male military recruits, approximately 2% became positive for SARS-CoV-2, as determined by qPCR assay, during a 2-week, strictly enforced quarantine.”

And how does this compare to the control group that was not tested and not isolated in the case of a positive case? Have a look at this chart from the study:

New England Journal of Medicine

https://www.aier.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Screen-Shot-2020-11-13-at-10.16.32-AM-1200x691.png

Which is to say that the nonparticipants actually contracted the virus at a slightly lower rate than those who were under an extreme regime. Conversely, extreme enforcement of NPIs plus more frequent testing and isolation was associated with a greater degree of infection.

I’m grateful to Don Wolt for drawing my attention to this study, which, so far as I know, has received very little attention from any media source at all, despite having been published in the New England Journal of Medicine on November 11.

Here are four actual media headlines about the study that miss the point entirely:

CNN: “Many military Covid-19 cases are asymptomatic, studies show”
SciTech Daily: “Asymptomatic COVID-19 Transmission Revealed Through Study of 2,000 Marine Recruits”
ABC: “Broad study of Marine recruits shows limits of COVID-19 symptom screening”
US Navy: “Navy/Marine Corps COVID-19 Study Findings Published in New England Journal of Medicine”
No national news story that I have found highlighted the most important finding of all: extreme quarantine plus frequent testing and isolation among military recruits did nothing to stop the virus.

The study is important because of the social structure of control here. It’s one thing to observe no effects from national lockdowns. There are countless variables here that could be invoked as cautionary notes: demographics, population density, preexisting immunities, degree of compliance, and so on.

But with this Marine study, you have a near homogeneous group based on age, health, and densities of living. And even here, you see confirmed what so many other studies have shown: lockdowns are pointlessly destructive.

They do not manage the disease. They crush human liberty and produce astonishing costs, such as 5.53 million years of lost life from the closing of schools alone.

The lockdowners keep telling us to pay attention to the science. That’s what we are doing. When the results contradict their pro-compulsion narrative, they pretend that the studies do not exist and barrel ahead with their scary plans to disable all social functioning in the presence of a virus.

Lockdowns are not science. They never have been. They are an experiment in social/political top-down management that is without precedent in cost to life and liberty.

[The earliest version of this article misstated the conditions of the control group. They were equally locked down with those who participated in the study. The difference between the two concerned testing frequency and the isolation response. This does not affect this article’s conclusion; indeed it strengthens it: even under extreme measures, the virus spread, and more so with the extra measure intended to control the virus. Nearly all infections were without symptoms.]

https://www.aier.org/article/even-a-military-enforced-quarantine-cant-stop-the-virus-study-reveals/

New England Journal of Medicine

Which is to say that the nonparticipants actually contracted the virus at a slightly lower rate than those who were under an extreme regime. Conversely, extreme enforcement of NPIs plus more frequent testing and isolation was associated with a greater degree of infection.

I’m grateful to Don Wolt for drawing my attention to this study, which, so far as I know, has received very little attention from any media source at all, despite having been published in the New England Journal of Medicine on November 11.

Here are four actual media headlines about the study that miss the point entirely:

CNN: “Many military Covid-19 cases are asymptomatic, studies show”
SciTech Daily: “Asymptomatic COVID-19 Transmission Revealed Through Study of 2,000 Marine Recruits”
ABC: “Broad study of Marine recruits shows limits of COVID-19 symptom screening”


50 posted on 11/24/2020 6:36:58 AM PST by Grampa Dave ( There was ZERO evidence of a free and fair election! What if Biden doesn't Concede?)
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To: Slyfox

Just as things were beginning to open up, Minnesota erupted and riots began to be a nightly occurrence. I do not recall any spikes in cases or deaths from any of the AntiFA or BLM riots but they changed the narrative for the MSM.


51 posted on 11/24/2020 6:47:45 AM PST by Freee-dame
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To: Slyfox

Bttt


52 posted on 11/24/2020 6:51:19 AM PST by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

bkmk


53 posted on 11/24/2020 6:59:25 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (Biden: Senile, pedophile, grifter, extortionist, thief.)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

This is War
American Thinker.com ^ | November 24, 2020 | J. Robert Smith
Posted on 11/24/2020, 6:41:06 AM by Kaslin

We are at war with enemies of liberty, domestic and foreign. Domestic enemies are now pressing relentlessly. Why shrink from the word “enemy,” the simple definition of which is “one seeking to injure, overthrow, or confound an opponent.” Who other are these warmakers?

This war is much more than disputes over fraudulent elections, though that would be cause enough. The Democratic Party is a means. The new war has been imagined, developed, and phased in over decades by the left. It’s unconventional, asymmetric, and cunning. It’s insidious, and has been about stealth and infiltration more so than outright confrontation — until this year, when state shutdowns have been imposed to test the limits of tyranny… to gauge the level of tolerance of unconstitutional centralized rule over a free people. Targeted violence has been employed in cities to engender angst, a sense of helplessness, and, consequently, to demoralize us.

The left’s warfare — underwritten by coastal plutocrats, chiefly — is comprehensive. The target now are our politics. The aim is to capture our national and state governments. Dominating the means of government nearly ensures its ends, which have nothing to do with our freedoms. Capturing governments is an endpoint — the crowning achievement in the left’s long march.

What would follow leftist consolidation of power in the United States is the hoped-for realization of the leftist-globalist dream of a “Great Reset,” whereby the United States is subsumed in some oligarchic-Marxist transnational utopia. As the history of the last 100 years teaches us abundantly, the left’s quests for utopia resolve in hells. The body count reaches into the millions, thanks to leftist slaughter.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


54 posted on 11/24/2020 7:03:24 AM PST by Grampa Dave ( There was ZERO evidence of a free and fair election! What if Biden doesn't Concede?)
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To: Mom MD

Thank you for the ‘real’ story. BS meter was strong with this post and the guy it mentions.


55 posted on 11/24/2020 7:51:46 AM PST by devane617 (Kyrie Eleison, where I'm going, will you follow?)
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To: Slyfox

We should have NEVER have been locked down and masked up.

And “cases” is the BIGGEST FRAUD PLAYED ON US!

Every night on the news, every radio news broadcast gives us the absolute “dire” “cases” count. Cases are nothing. Cases are people who have healthy immune systems, who either have it minimally or have no symptoms at all, and all those people are surviving.

We have been majorly lied to.


56 posted on 11/24/2020 8:03:33 AM PST by Grampa Dave ( There was ZERO evidence of a free and fair election! What if Biden doesn't Concede?)
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To: SecAmndmt

Thank you for this info. I fully agree with it and I could not have worded it better.


57 posted on 11/24/2020 8:50:20 AM PST by nanook (Thomas Jefferson was right.)
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To: Mom MD

Are these patients tested for covid or a new flu season with a natural spike in similar/same virus? This is the beginning of 2020 flu season.


58 posted on 11/24/2020 10:05:27 AM PST by Karliner (Heb 4:12 Rom 8:28 Rev 3, "...This is the end of the beginning." Churchill)
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To: Mom MD

Simple questions, as a matter of standard practice, do you test blood levels of vitamins C and D in your covid patients? If not, why not?

After all, there are strong negative correlations between both of those and covid death rates.

For anyone else interested, starting at about minute 48, a UW Madison ICU expert details the MATH+ protocol which has a very high success rate (iirc 98%) vs serious cv19 cases.

https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/covid-19-how-new-information-should-drive-policy


59 posted on 11/24/2020 10:38:00 AM PST by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: Karliner

these are patients tested for covid with lab markers generally positive fairly unique to covid and consistent illness histories
They have covid not something else


60 posted on 11/24/2020 11:10:51 AM PST by Mom MD
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