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Rudy Giuliani on Break with Sidney Powell: ‘We’re Pursuing Two Different Theories’
Breitbart ^ | Nov 23, 2020 | Jeff Poor

Posted on 11/23/2020 9:00:49 PM PST by Rightwing Conspiratr1

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To: Widget Jr
I am not a lawyer so if lawyer wants to correct me please do. I think the case against Dominion is heavy in statistics and technology. That type of case involves a lot of analysis and the fraud is not as apparent. That could take months to build. I believe the President does not have the time, but does have a legit claim for mail in ballots being handled differently in different counties which disenfranchised voters or the ballots were not handled as directed by the courts and legislators. That is a heavy lift but can be addressed faster. If we had months, I think the fraud involving Dominion and others would be a powerful case. If Lin Wood is correct and Kemp is dirty, we may have some people willing to flip vice looking at jail time. But again that case could take many months to build and we do not have that time.
21 posted on 11/23/2020 9:33:02 PM PST by OldGoatCPO (No Caitiff Choir of Angles will sing for me)
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To: Rightwing Conspiratr1

Rudy said he thought the Dominion software suit would take a lot longer. He’s pursuing the misconduct charges. And wished Powell well on the other stuff.

Not sure why he thinks the Dominion would take longer, but may God speed both of their efforts.


22 posted on 11/23/2020 9:36:35 PM PST by DannyTN (<P><a href="https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3902132/posts">)
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To: OldGoatCPO

gateway pundit has done a series on this, covering most of the math and stats that I am aware of. The series is titled “WE CAUGHT THEM”, in all caps (naturally).


23 posted on 11/23/2020 9:38:56 PM PST by Widget Jr
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To: Rightwing Conspiratr1

Pursuing “theories” just sounds so weak. Bad phrasing for the public ear.


24 posted on 11/23/2020 9:41:37 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: alexander_busek

Hello Mr. 5th grader...

Depravation means the act of corrupting someone, of causing them to become bad or depraved, the act of making someone wicked or perverted. The word depravation is related to the word deprave, a fact which makes remembering the correct spelling easier.


25 posted on 11/23/2020 9:42:07 PM PST by mazz44 (http://knowledgeofhealth.com/why-animals-age-they-produce-less-vitamin-c-same-for-humans/)
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To: Prince Caspian; Rightwing Conspiratr1; fireman15
Two questions. What inside information do you have that leads you to believe her pursuits are ridiculous?

Powell is pursuing very complex arguments - how Dominion software works, is it hackable, who uses it, connections with Venezuela, China, Soros. Collecting watertight evidence across such broad field will take a team of investigators a very long time - with the Democrats and every interested party fighting and hiding every step of the way. Its an extreme long-shot.

Meanwhile the clock is ticking on Electoral College certification in 3 weeks

On the other hand, we have now glaring statistical evidence of gross anomalies from a few swing states regarding mail-in ballots, improper handling, no chain of control, dirty voter rolls, no audits of improper voting etc…. There is established electoral law in each state to review these problems and plenty of precedent. Also, the bar is not that high - Trump only needs to show to a court (likely SCOTUS) that enough ballots were corrupted in particular states to make the outcome unclear. If the electors can’t be assigned, then the decision goes to the states legislatures or Congress, where the GOP has an advantage.

No one here knows what Powell has, and I wish her luck - but she's trying to hit grand slams when only a single is needed. Also, her complex theories are muddying the waters in the court of public opinion. its far easier to prove there were unverified ballots in Philadelphia vs. Hugo Chavez’s connection to Dominion.

26 posted on 11/23/2020 9:42:48 PM PST by PGR88
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To: Revel
It sounds like you are a danger to the republic. Massive digital vote fraud is no conspiracy. Your attitude is why they get away with it.

No conspiracy theorists are a danger to the republic. There wasn't the digital fraud that Powell alleges. The Georgia audit has already shown that. No the fraud was the traditional old-fashioned fraud that democrats have been doing for years and years.

27 posted on 11/23/2020 9:43:19 PM PST by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: Rightwing Conspiratr1

Sounds like a slip up on Rudy’s part.

I don’t think he wanted to tell everyone Sidney was fired....

but that slip-up says a lot.


29 posted on 11/23/2020 9:47:08 PM PST by Safrguns
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To: Rightwing Conspiratr1

On his radio show on WABC tonight a caller asked what happened with Powell. The Mayor said we need to stay focused on one area. That can work. We can’t go down all these other paths. Sidney’s path is going to be hard to prove and it will take years. We don’t have that much time.


30 posted on 11/23/2020 9:47:17 PM PST by conservative98
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To: 9YearLurker
"Pursuing “theories” just sounds so weak. Bad phrasing for the public ear.

That was my first thought. Sounds like 'chasing dragons'. Let's hope they are WAY past 'chasing' and 'theory' at this point. Bad for public ear, even worse if true.

31 posted on 11/23/2020 9:48:33 PM PST by tinyowl (A is A)
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To: Rightwing Conspiratr1

Well you have had your way for the last 40 years. Look where it got us.


32 posted on 11/23/2020 9:53:58 PM PST by Revel
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To: mazz44
Depravation means the act of corrupting someone, of causing them to become bad or depraved, the act of making someone wicked or perverted. The word depravation is related to the word deprave, a fact which makes remembering the correct spelling easier.

[...] in which the misconduct of the election involved depravation of constitutional rights for the president [...]

"Rights" are not a "someone." It is impossible to make "rights" depraved.

The writer obviously meant to write "deprivation of constitutional rights."

FAIL.

Regards,

33 posted on 11/23/2020 9:54:27 PM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: Widget Jr
I agree we caught them. Cops catch criminals all the time and then lawyers screw it up. I absolutely believe there was massive fraud, it occurred in more than just the battle ground states.

Hell, I cannot believe Roy Cooper was re-elected, he is despised even in the Raleigh area.

Knowing it, proving it and getting a positive ruling on it at SCOTUS will be tough. If SCOTUS agrees that fraud existed and therefore nullified legal votes, which disenfranchised legal voters, SCOTUS could rule there was fraud but not enough to effect the election and thereby rule against Trump. I am not a lawyer I am just looking at how SCOTUS seems twist itself into a legal pretzel to split the baby on some issues.

Or SCOTUS could rule on each individual state challenge possibly flipping one or more states to Trump. This seems the more likely route. I believe PA is one state that fraud blatantly occurred, also in Detroit. Would PA and MI be enough to give Trump a victory? People in Wisconsin believe fraud occurred in Milwaukee county, but it may be hard to prove. NV on the other hand had more people vote then live in the entire state. We may see later that it as Dominion changing votes, but too late to help Trump.

I think a long shot would be SCOTUS ruling that fraud was so prevalent nobody could legally get an honest count of legal ballots. That could nullify the election, sending it to Congress.

Really an up hill battle either way. I hope we win this but it will take a perfect storm and will still result in CW II I am afraid.

34 posted on 11/23/2020 10:02:38 PM PST by OldGoatCPO (No Caitiff Choir of Angles will sing for me)
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To: Rightwing Conspiratr1
When it comes to the Dems hardly any conspiracy is too off base. Communist conspiracy, think Bill Clinton's ChinaGate. "Russia collusion", think Hillary and the DNC colluding with the Russians in 2016, as well as the 8 years prior during Obama-Biden admin.

The “Trump-Russia collusion” story was of course a hoax, a COVER, to hide what THEY (the notoriously traitorous Democrats) were doing, as the only evidence for Russia collusion involves THEM!

1) Soon-to-be unclassified docs reportedly state (surprise-surprise) Russians actually wanted HILLARY to win, not Trump! Obama CIA chief Brennan hid the evidence!!

2) Top Putin aids (Vladislav Surkov and Vyacheslav Trubnikov) provided disinformation (fake ‘dirt’) on Trump! (via RUSSIAN AGENT Igor Danchenko) for Clinton campaign/DNC paid-for Steele dossier!!

3) Burisma owner [Mykola Zlochevsky] was/is a RUSSIA ALLY! Joe Biden’s son worked for and brought in millions from Burisma. Joe is ON VIDEO BRAGGING about extorting the Ukrainians into firing the prosecutor who was investigating his son and the corrupt RUSSIA-ALLIED owner of the company.

4) Obama-Biden DENIED desperately requested military assistance to Ukraine
...during the Russia invasion of Crimea!!

5) For 8 years the Obama-Biden-Clinton admin immensely HELPED the Russians, via Obama’s promised and delivered “flexibility” on missile defense, the Russia-favoring New Start nuke treaty, the Putin-loving Iran deal (Iran and Syria are pawns of Russia in the oil/gas-rich Middle East), the Uranium-One deal, where Obama-Hillary allowed Russia to take ownership of 20% of our uranium production!

6) They (Obama-Biden) deliberately slashed OUR military to pieces. Fortunately, Trump has since brought it back times 10.

35 posted on 11/23/2020 10:07:15 PM PST by ETL (REAL Russia collusion! DEMOCRAT-Russia collusion!! Click ETL...)
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To: alexander_busek

You meant spelling...That is on journalist...


36 posted on 11/23/2020 10:11:35 PM PST by mazz44 (http://knowledgeofhealth.com/why-animals-age-they-produce-less-vitamin-c-same-for-humans/)
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To: Prince Caspian
Check out the video clip in this thread: https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3909067/posts

The guy there lays it out very well. Powell’s wild, zany allegations have effectively undermined the most compelling arguments on Trump’s side.

37 posted on 11/23/2020 10:19:30 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("There's somebody new and he sure ain't no rodeo man.")
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
“depravation of constitutional rights for the president.” How about deprivation of constitutional rights for the 75 or 80 million of us who voted for Trump?

Yes, I winced when Rudy said that.

He should at lease start out with the 75 to 80 million voters, before he mentions the president.

38 posted on 11/23/2020 10:21:23 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: OldGoatCPO
Summary of statistical evidence as I understand it:

Election night:

1. Vote shifting to Biden from other candidates, IIRC there's a 35 second video of 19,958 votes being shifted from Trump to Biden in PA.
2. Statistically Biden having a floor and Trump having a ceiling which triggered votes being given to each at a constant ratio for several consecutive batches.

After the voting stopped early:

3. The voting stopped early for no valid reason. Might as well bring that up. According to Sydney Powell, it is because Trump was winning so much the cheating algorithms could not handle it, so the back up plan was running a few million Biden only votes through the machines.
4. 100,000 to 150,000 ballots counted between midnight and 6:00 am on Nov 4 going 99% for Biden, at a rate faster than were counted on election night, with no Republican observers present.
5. After Biden's lead was established, dozens of sequential batches have the same ratio of Biden to Trump votes, regardless of batch size, down to the thousandth's place. I.E. 0.000 place.

All using the same software from the same Company in WI, MI, PA and GA, and other states where election laws were rewritting to allow for mail in vote fraud and then ignored their election laws anyway.

In a sane world that would be enough throw out every election that used Dominion systems and turn it to the state Legislatures, because we were all disenfranchised by this.

39 posted on 11/23/2020 10:24:39 PM PST by Widget Jr
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To: Alberta's Child

What motive would Powell have to intentionally undermine Trump?


40 posted on 11/23/2020 10:26:03 PM PST by ETL (REAL Russia collusion! DEMOCRAT-Russia collusion!! Click ETL...)
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