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Wisconsin officials: Trump observers obstructing recount
fox news ^ | 11/21/2020 | Caitlin McFall

Posted on 11/21/2020 9:52:22 PM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
Isn't it possible to be pro-Trump and not registered as a Republican?

It sure is possible because I am one of them. (For the record I am an Independent)

41 posted on 11/22/2020 5:07:36 AM PST by Sir_Humphrey (Strong minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, weak minds discuss people -Socrates)
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To: Sir_Humphrey

Any news on how the recount is going?


42 posted on 11/22/2020 5:11:27 AM PST by rlbedfor
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To: Sir_Humphrey

Don’t know about Wisconsin, but in Texas party affiliation is not on the voter registration. If I had to put something it would be independent.


43 posted on 11/22/2020 5:15:09 AM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Re-imagine the media!)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
I an from NJ (just outside Princeton) and technically NJ has me listed as "unaffiliated". There is no such thing as "independent" in this state; just "unaffiliated" The GOP in NJ is at least 3/4 RINO. The GOP leadership tends to purge real conservatives so about 20 years I ago I stopped playing their game.

But I digress

44 posted on 11/22/2020 5:23:29 AM PST by Sir_Humphrey (Strong minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, weak minds discuss people -Socrates)
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To: Redmen4ever

I guessing here, somebody declared the machines rejected ballots containing one or more folds.
Hence, flag and make sure legal ballots with folds are counted.


45 posted on 11/22/2020 5:43:42 AM PST by Steven Tyler (President Elect Steven Tyler)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

So some Republicans with a spine and a brain finally showed up to do the job right?

thats what being heard here


46 posted on 11/22/2020 5:49:10 AM PST by mo ("If you understand, no explanation is needed; if you don't understand, no explanation is possible)
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To: BushCountry

“Why are ballots folded?”

To get them in the ballot box.

I’ve worked elections for many years. It is possible to get a ballot inside an empty ballot box without folding, but one that is more than 1/3 full is hard to do that. The issue is the slot size on top of the box.


47 posted on 11/22/2020 5:59:32 AM PST by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: BushCountry

Possibly because they were once deemed spoiled and put away folded in a spoiled folder. It could have been an overvote, or something else not easily detected visually (from 6’ away, for example).


48 posted on 11/22/2020 6:00:12 AM PST by rx (Truth will out!)
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To: mo

I don’t know all the facts. What these “election officials” are claiming is exactly what I would expect them to claim if observers did their jobs.


49 posted on 11/22/2020 6:03:47 AM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Re-imagine the media!)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

If I understand it correctly, Trump and others were watching the vote tallying on Election Night thru their set-up at the SCIF, and observed the votes being switched from Trump to Biden, etc. While they were watching it, they were also RECORDING it. On 11/4, Trump tweeted “We saw it all. We caught them in the act. We have the proof”. Then he clammed up and hasn’t said anything since. So if that is correct, there will be no lack of evidence when it goes to court.


50 posted on 11/22/2020 6:03:54 AM PST by Tucker39 ("It is impossible so to rightly govern a nation without God and the Bible." George Washington )
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To: Steven Tyler

excellent point, Steve.


51 posted on 11/22/2020 6:14:34 AM PST by Redmen4ever
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To: Steven Tyler

excellent point, Steve.


52 posted on 11/22/2020 6:17:13 AM PST by Redmen4ever
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To: Tucker39; Cboldt

I would not be too surprised if the voter fraud talk is a head fake. Remember Giuliani said the issue was not voter fraud in PA (even though there was voter fraud). Maybe the Constitutional arguments to the court will be easier to prove.


53 posted on 11/22/2020 6:20:18 AM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Re-imagine the media!)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

Every single ballot was folded??? That’s a huge red flag to me... unless they were mail in ballots that must be folded for mailing.

I don’t know thr WILL system but in PA ballots are handed and completed then fed to the scanner by the voter...

Once in a while a voter will fold the ballot, after he’ll they fill it out.. but it’s RARE. Only way an entire batch of ballots would be folded, unless mail in, would be someone intentionally did that.

Poll workers (again my state, don’t know about WI) empty the ballots from the machine and place them in a secure satchel and they are taken that night and given to the county... The only way all ballots would all be folded would be if every voter folded them, impossible... or the person who emptied the machine folded every single ballot when emptying thr ballots for transport.... this I find highly improbable..

So they would have likely been folded by someone some other time during processing and it doesn’t make logical sense for that to be done...

Definitely would raise my suspicions if I were a watcher in my state and someone opened a batch of ballots that were so nearly folded. Unless as I said they were mail in ballots


54 posted on 11/22/2020 6:30:48 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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are they verifying signatures?
did the election board actually change any rules?
link?


55 posted on 11/22/2020 8:19:55 AM PST by CarolinaReaganFan
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

FWIW, I think the public would better accept the idea of “tossing the vote” if the issue is fraud, than if the issue is SoS and not legislature made the regulations.

Not that it makes any difference. The court will do what it thinks best benefits itself.


56 posted on 11/22/2020 9:08:01 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: CarolinaReaganFan
The rules are supposed to protect voter privacy, but seems like in most states with mail-in ballots they make voter fraud downright easy.

NBC link: Campaign-requested recounts involve rescanning paper ballots, which would not address Trump’s call to “include signature matching.” The statewide audit did not verify signatures because once outer envelope signatures are verified before votes are originally tallied, they are separated from the ballots inside to maintain voter secrecy.

57 posted on 11/22/2020 9:14:15 AM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Re-imagine the media!)
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To: ronnie raygun

Im glad our people are there and getting in THEIR faces finally.


58 posted on 11/22/2020 9:28:56 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: polymuser

Gee... that’s a shame, ain’t it?

Time to Get in THEIR faces now.


59 posted on 11/22/2020 9:29:51 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Cboldt
Thanks. Seems like presenting evidence of fraud is a double edged sword: As you say, the public would understand it better, but

1) If that is the only evidence we have, it's going to be hard to prove that mail-in actually changed the election result because they are separating the signatures from the ballots when they count the vote (and don't even keep an image of the signature that was mailed in).

2) If we submit evidence of fraud as the primary evidence, and the judges look at that first and reject it, will judges begin to lose patience with the case and be more likely to reject the Constitutional argument as well? Maybe that's not the way it's supposed to work but....

60 posted on 11/22/2020 9:34:41 AM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Re-imagine the media!)
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