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Fraud 2020; what about 2008, 2012, 2016?
11/16/2020 | tomatomaster

Posted on 11/16/2020 6:03:40 PM PST by tomatomaster

First things first: focus on voter fraud in 2020.

But what is the bigger picture of the Dems election strategy network?

For a moment I want to look ahead or more accurately, ‘look behind’. After voter fraud is proven and Trump is established in his second term there should be investigations to determine the role of fraud in previous elections.

When Biden made his comment about creating the best-ever voter fraud system, we all know that was not just ‘mis-speak’ from a gaffe-prone candidate.

2016: Trump won. But I speculate that his true margin of victory was much larger if fraudulent votes were to be deducted. I speculate the dems did not worry about Hillary being so absent from the campaign trail, and did not worry about lackluster rallies because they knew the vote would be propped up by the Dominion voting system and other methods. Their system at the time was not in place well enough to surmount Trump’s numbers.

2012, 2008: Did Obama really win those elections fair and square? I am convinced voter fraud pushed him over the top. No way to prove it back then. Trump-friendly investigators should get hold of Dominion’s archives going back to that time.

When the electoral system is cleaned up, in addition to voter ID, I’d like to see each vote treated with chain-of-command custody. Each ballot needs to be traceable back to the voter of origin if an audit is needed.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: chat; electionfraud; vanitiesbelonginchat; vanity; youropinionisnotnews
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1 posted on 11/16/2020 6:03:40 PM PST by tomatomaster
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To: tomatomaster

We didn’t have a fighter in a position to do something about it those years . . . and surely all the evidence has been buried by now.


2 posted on 11/16/2020 6:06:05 PM PST by Pilgrim's Progress (http://www.baptistbiblebelievers.com/BYTOPICS/tabid/335/Default.aspx D)
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To: tomatomaster

In 2008 and 2012 they had the cooperation of willing Designated Losers who intended to lose so we could have our first foreign President.

2016 they cheated their usual amount thinking that would be enough and got caught by surprise.

2018 was the warm-up for the Big Steal.


3 posted on 11/16/2020 6:07:55 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents|Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: tomatomaster

I heard something yesterday that alluded to the fact that this voting machine scam was used in 2016 but it didn’t work that is why Clinton et al was shocked she didn’t win. The person said they couldn’t say the reason it didn’t work as expected for the Dems. So curious. Did prez Trump know?


4 posted on 11/16/2020 6:10:12 PM PST by kelly4c
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Al Frankenstein

“As the Wall Street Journal’s John Fund reports, Minnesota Democrat Al Franken’s narrow, 312-vote victory in 2008 over incumbent Sen. Norm Coleman may have come as the result of people being ...”


5 posted on 11/16/2020 6:11:15 PM PST by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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To: Pikachu_Dad

LBJ

“LBJ alleged voter fraud. In 1948, LBJ ran for Senate again. On election night, Sept. 2, 1948, in the Democrat Primary runoff against former Texas Governor Coke Stevenson, it appeared LBJ lost.”


6 posted on 11/16/2020 6:12:07 PM PST by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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To: tomatomaster

A better question - has their EVER been an election for POTUS that didn’t have at least some degree of fraud? There was double-voting, vote buying, and a slew of other issues going as far back as George Washington’s days...


7 posted on 11/16/2020 6:12:27 PM PST by TheBattman (Democrats-Progressives-Marxists-Socialists - redundant labels.)
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To: tomatomaster

I actually believe THIS was really why Hillary was so furious. They PROMISED her the win in 2016 and she risked jail and everything to win. I’m sure she saw her whole miserable life flash before her eyes. Unfortunately, those losers in the GOP will never really do anything.


8 posted on 11/16/2020 6:12:49 PM PST by Dr. Pritchett
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In 2016 we had a Democrat operative brag on video about illegal activities of the candidate, party and PAC. He openly bragged about 50 years of bussing in voters.

Biden characterized the voter fraud machine he has presided over as not just being unprecedented in its scale but also an extension of the one that Obama had developed. It shouldn’t surprise anyone given how Obama was created that this in turn would be something that Obama had inherited as well, though from the Clinton / Gore days back to Charlie Trie and before it seems like the thrust may have been on getting campaign funds from wherever ... notably including the ChiComs.

The Democrats have been engaged in fraud for decades now. They are very good at it. This time they overplayed their hand and it became obvious to casual observers.

Biden as POTUS will bury it all and make the voter fraud as difficult to fight as he can.

Frankly, at some point they’ll strip the right to vote from any who oppose them ... and then just start killing us all.


9 posted on 11/16/2020 6:13:14 PM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: tomatomaster

We ran more secure elections in Iraq during the GWOT. Remember the purple fingers?!?


10 posted on 11/16/2020 6:13:51 PM PST by Dr. Pritchett
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To: Pikachu_Dad

“Feb 19, 1994The election was crucial because the party that won the seat also won control of the 50-member State Senate. The judge decided to hear the case after state election officials and state courts “


11 posted on 11/16/2020 6:14:03 PM PST by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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To: tomatomaster

no wonder Romney hates Trump


12 posted on 11/16/2020 6:14:13 PM PST by dontreadthis
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To: Pikachu_Dad

That was fraud, as was the Gov’s race in WA state mentioned upthread.


13 posted on 11/16/2020 6:14:34 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents|Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: tomatomaster

we have been ENSLAVED by fraud using technology
created by foreign and seditious entities.

when whistleblowers contacted the DO”J” and FIB,
their Evidence has been seized, and they were warned
and usually killed.

THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR DECADES
while the lying politicians have been eating
the faces, adrenals and pituitaries of our children.

is that not ENOUGH? !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111


14 posted on 11/16/2020 6:16:40 PM PST by Diogenesis ("when a crime is unpunished, the world is unbalanced" )
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To: tomatomaster

If Trump’s administration has shown us anything the Dims are willing to do is that they will use any tool to destroy him, legally or illegally. They are utterly convinced that the ends justify the means. Despicable.


15 posted on 11/16/2020 6:16:53 PM PST by vigilence (Vigilence)
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To: Pikachu_Dad

The WA Gov race was mentioned on another thread, sorry.
But it was another fraud steal.


16 posted on 11/16/2020 6:17:46 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents|Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: TheBattman; tomatomaster

Good point, it’s just that fraud is so much more efficient these days, due to technology and the media.


17 posted on 11/16/2020 6:17:48 PM PST by thecodont
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To: tomatomaster

I am thinking that Trump won in such a landslide, they had to cheat in ways that exposed them.

At least, that is what I hope.

In which case this election is a NET POSITIVE...


18 posted on 11/16/2020 6:19:36 PM PST by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (Dems: We cheated fair and square!!!)
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To: Lurkinanloomin; Pikachu_Dad

So many college students have become indoctrinated about Biden and his fraudulent “victory” and think that Dems constantly counting and finding votes like Easter eggs under bushes is a marvelous thing.

Tell these students: OK, we will sit you down in study hall for an exam. You get 50 minutes for the exam. After that, hand in your papers. No exceptions.

Then, five minutes before the exam ends, the teacher points out a few students and tells them, “I like you, you get an extra 15 minutes.” To everyone else: “Pencils down in five minutes.”

So how would the students respond to that?


19 posted on 11/16/2020 6:21:12 PM PST by thecodont
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Here in Washington it is impossible for Republicans to win ever since it turned to mail in voting only. Dino Rossi was an excellent example - keep recounting until the magic number is reached.


20 posted on 11/16/2020 6:22:11 PM PST by datura (If you have to cheat, you didn't’ win.)
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