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1 posted on 10/31/2020 8:33:21 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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What are these people smoking?


2 posted on 10/31/2020 8:34:39 PM PDT by BigEdLB (BigedLB, Russian BOT, At your service)
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To: SeekAndFind

2016 was ‘astonishing’ and Trump did not have near the ground support he has now.


3 posted on 10/31/2020 8:37:04 PM PDT by GaltMeister (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.)
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the polls are going to be far more wrong this year than they were in 2016 in Trumps direction.

My theory is this:
Covid fundamentally affected society on a level never before seen in the history of polling. And that fundamental shift affected people in an unusually partisan way. What I mean is.. if you were terrified of Covid... you have probably been hiding in your home since March. If you thought all this was being overblown.. you went on with your life to the extent that your nanny government would let you.

So think for a moment..

who answers polls? PEOPLE AT HOME!

has anyone in the entire history of polling answered a pollster while riding in their car, or at work, or out with the friends or shopping or whatever? NO!!

and who is at home AND HAS BEEN SINCE MARCH!?!?

THOSE TERRIFIED OF COVID!!!!

this explains EVERYTHING when you think about it! Why has Trump been struggling with older voters in most of the polls all year?

BECAUSE OF COVID!!!

the older voters who have barricaded themselves in their homes since March along with terrified liberals are the ones disproportionately at home to answer these polls!

So.. THE POLLS ARE RIGHT! but they reflect the opinions of those TRAPPED AT HOME!


4 posted on 10/31/2020 8:42:31 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
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Unfortunately, “Tyler Durden” is no longer the original Tyler Durden.

ZH has been taken over by far more liberal forces over the past couple of years.

I now refer to it as DrudgeHedge.

The polls are all over the place. Just get out in vote in person on election day if you haven’t already and tell as many people as you can that voting for Biden (the Trojan Horse) and Harris (the invader within that Trojan Horse) is a vote for pure Venezuelan-style communism.


6 posted on 10/31/2020 8:49:55 PM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare to survive.)
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The demise of the polling industry should be obvious to anyone who looks at these numbers. You had one poll showing Biden ahead by 17 points in Wisconsin or Michigan, and another one showing him up by only 3 in the same state. I don’t care how you look at it ... it’s a clear red flag that the whole process doesn’t work.

That one example is like having one meteorologist predicting a high temperature of 95 degrees tomorrow, and another saying it’s only going to be 70. If you ever saw two weather forecasts like that for the same day, you wouldn’t bother with either one of them.

10 posted on 10/31/2020 9:10:39 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("There's somebody new and he sure ain't no rodeo man.")
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To: SeekAndFind

They are wronger.


11 posted on 10/31/2020 9:27:09 PM PDT by ALASKA (It's not going to be pretty.)
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predictit.org is a RIDICULOUS indicator of how an election is actually going to go, but a FANTASTIC way to make some easy money ... i cleaned up in 2016 when the odds were ridiculous against trump winning, like 3 to 1 he’d lose, and i cleared $6,000 in winnings after fees and taxes ...

it’s about 3 to 2 right now that he’ll lose this time around, so the money isn’t quite as easy, but still a great bet as far as i’m concerned ... i’ve made several bets, including bets on individual swing states ... btw, i should note that i’m not normally a gambler, but i consider these bets pretty darn sure things ...

i’ve tried to figure out why these odds don’t make more sense, in particular they’re not moving at all as a steady drumbeat of polls in in the various swing states are shifting in trump’s favor, as well as early indications of bad news for Dem turnout and good news for GOP turnout in various locales ...

so, why are the betting odds so out of whack? predictit.org is a legal betting site that’s an academic experiment at Victoria University of Wellington in New Zealand, and what i’ve decided is that it attracts a substantial number of bettors from NZ, australia and europe, ALL of which have even more slanted “news” than the U.S., and the fools that are betting there are betting based on VERY limited and HIGHLY biased information ... thus i consider those of us in the U.S. that ignore the fake polls and intensely study a large variety of sources outside the mainstream have a leg up on the average ignorant bettor at predictit.org ...


14 posted on 10/31/2020 9:47:44 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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They will drink the wine of astonishment then


18 posted on 10/31/2020 10:12:06 PM PDT by Gasshog
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Honestly, I think Donald Trump is looking at over 400 EV, possibly to even 440.

I look through those states and I think Biden gets all the states leaning toward him, but all but two toss up states should likelybgo to Trump, and all of the ones that lean Trump will go to Trump.

These people are going to go nuts with the size of what is coming from the Trump Wave.


21 posted on 10/31/2020 10:42:21 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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Bartender, may I have what they are drinking?


22 posted on 11/01/2020 4:05:57 AM PST by Deplorable American1776 (Proud to be a DeplorableAmerican with a Deplorable family...even the dog is, too. :-) Trump 2020t)
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