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Is Trump Gaining More Voters Than He’s Losing?
Townhall.com ^ | October 23, 2020 | Michael Brown

Posted on 10/23/2020 11:44:15 AM PDT by Kaslin

Although my polling is anything but scientific, representing a very specific sampling of the general voting public, the results have been the same for months now: Trump is gaining more voters than he is losing. Does this reflect a national trend?

My last poll was conducted on Twitter on October 16, with this wording: “As the elections are upon us, I'll ask my standard question once more. Did you vote for Trump in 2016, and do you plan to vote for him in 2020? (Note carefully the four choices.)”

The choices were: Yes in 2016, yes in 2020. Yes in 2016, no in 2020. No in 2016, no in 2020. No in 2016, yes in 2020.

A total of 69.4 percent were in the “Yes in 2016” category, while 30.7 percent were in the “No in 2016” category. (Obviously, the counts are rounded off by Twitter, resulting in 100.1 percent totals.)

So, almost 70 percent of those responding said they voted for Trump in 2016, in contrast with 30 percent who did not vote for him in 2016.

Of the first category, the Trump voters in 2016, at the rate of roughly 23 to 1, they said they would vote for him again in 2020. (Specifically, 67.2 percent to 2.2 percent.) A tiny minority is defecting from Trump.

Of the second category, representing those who did not vote for him in 2016, nearly two out of three said they were changing their vote and would support him this time around. (Specifically, 18.8 percent to 11.9 percent.) So, a substantial majority is moving towards him.

The implications of this, if representative in the least, are massive.

Back in June, Middle East expert Daniel Pipes, a strident opponent of Trump in 2016, penned an op-ed in Newsweek titled, “A Reluctant but Unhesitating Vote for Donald Trump.” When it comes to the issues of most importance to Pipes, issues of international significance, Trump has done well, gaining the support of Pipes.

Also in June, the New Yorker explained how Southern Baptist leader Dr. Albert Mohler had decided to vote for Trump in 2020 while not doing so in 2016.

In his view, “President Trump is a huge embarrassment. And it’s an embarrassment to evangelical Christianity that there appear to be so many who will celebrate precisely the aspects that I see Biblically as most lamentable and embarrassing.”

Yet, he said, “I intend to vote for Donald Trump in 2020, but my shift is from reluctantly not voting for him in 2016 to what you might call reluctantly voting for him in 2020, and hoping for his reëlection, because the alternative is increasingly unthinkable. But I will not become an apologist for the misbehavior of the President and for what I see as glaring deficiencies in his private and public character.” 

On October 9, the Federalist posted an article by Daniel Sound with this provocative title: “I Didn’t Vote For Trump In 2016, But I’d Crawl Over Broken Glass To Vote For Him Now.”

He begins his article saying, “Even though I had voted for every Republican presidential candidate since 1980, I didn’t vote for Donald Trump in 2016.

“Many Republican nominees had been huge disappointments to me, and I wasn’t going to vote for yet another GOP candidate I thought would betray my trust. I couldn’t imagine Trump as a genuine conservative who would champion limited government, respect individual freedom and liberty, and protect the unborn — but was I ever wrong. Although I didn’t vote for Trump in 2016, I would crawl over broken glass to vote for him in 2020.”

On October 19, Ben Shapiro announced that, although he did not vote for Trump in 2016, he was voting for him in 2020.

First, he says that he was wrong about Donald Trump on policy. Trump has, in fact, governed conservatively.

Second, he says that whatever damage has been done by Trump’s character flaws has already been done and voting for him now won’t change that.

Third, and most importantly, “the Democrats have lost their [expletive] minds.” Enough said.

Over in Israel, and coming from an Israel-centric perspective, Abraham Katsman posted a fascinating op-ed piece on October 11 in the Jerusalem Post: “Hate Trump? Understood. Vote for him anyway – opinion.”

Pulling no punches, he wrote: “I know. Many of you loathe US President Donald Trump. He triggers your contempt, disdain, scorn and various Trumpian synonyms still to be coined. You find him vulgar, narcissistic, dishonest, ignorant, bigoted, divisive, uncouth, misogynistic, racist, nativist, Islamophobic and antisemitic, not to mention a fraud, con man and tax cheat. You ‘sat shiva,’ mourning his unimaginable election – your revulsion has only snowballed since. You disbelieve his every word, including ‘and’ and ‘the.’ Evidence or not, you remain convinced that he colluded with Russia to unfairly defeat Hillary Clinton. His lack of moral compass and coddling dictators and white supremacists sickens you. And, embarrassed as you are that he is president, you are even more appalled by his voters. (Did I leave anything out?)”

I would say he “gets it” when it comes to some of the biggest objections to Trump, be they real or exaggerated or imagined.

But, he adds, “Now, take a deep breath. Hold your nose. And vote for Trump anyway. For real.”

And this: “Recoil if you must from Trump’s tweeting and speaking style, gag from his personality and wallow in disgust at his pervasive Trump-ness. I get it. Still, consider the alternative; then force yourself to vote to keep this solid administration in place.”

This seems to be what is turning the hearts of many voters. First, Trump kept his promises to his constituencies and did not betray us, as we feared would happen. Second, despite his grotesquely obvious flaws, which are damaging in many ways, the alternative is even more frightful.

Personally, I know people who voted for Trump in 2016 but will not vote for him in 2020, either voting third party or not voting for the president at all. But, from what I can tell, for the reasons stated here, they appear to be in the minority.

In a few days, we shall see.



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: election2020; joebiden; swingstates; trump2020

1 posted on 10/23/2020 11:44:16 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

I don’t like “I know people..” kind of so-called evidence.
this means nothing.


2 posted on 10/23/2020 11:45:15 AM PDT by snarkytart
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To: Kaslin

Mr. Brown, look at voter registration statistics. There’s your answer.


3 posted on 10/23/2020 11:47:07 AM PDT by ConservativeInPA ("War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength." - George Orwell, 1984)
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To: Kaslin

Why on earth would he be losing any at all? I think Trump is winning right now, and I think he has nothing but upside at this point.


4 posted on 10/23/2020 11:48:16 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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To: Kaslin

As long as they vote for them they can be TDS as much as their brainwashed minds want to be.


5 posted on 10/23/2020 11:51:12 AM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Kaslin

“... the misbehavior of the President and for what I see as glaring deficiencies in his private and public character.”

What rancid sewage occupies the space where a brain should be that causes them to think like this?

I am reminded of Jesus talking about removing the log in your own eye before being concerned about the speck in someone else’s.

These people are arrogant imbeciles.


6 posted on 10/23/2020 11:54:29 AM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast (Make Orwell Fiction Again)
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To: Kaslin
Here's Frank Luntz's video with 13 undecided voters immediately after the debate.

You don't have to watch all 1 hour and 27 minutes of the video, just the first 90 seconds.

Luntz asks who they plan to vote for, and it is ONE for Biden, NINE for Trump, and three still undecided.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xie2wCbrxGY

7 posted on 10/23/2020 11:58:24 AM PDT by Yo-Yo ( is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Kaslin

Losing voters? Only a blithering f@tard walks away from President Trump.


8 posted on 10/23/2020 12:00:54 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists...Socialists...Fascists & AntiFa...Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Scott from the Left Coast

The objections, by those who hesitated to vote for POTUS, all seem to be about optics and character.
Imagine, if you will, a candidate who filled their optics and character ideas. (It’s hard, I know. Are we talking Jeb Bush-types, maybe?)

They want a POTUS who thrills us with his appearance, demeanor and presentation. We’ve had these before; they were crappy presidents.

My judgment is always: Which candidate will more closely follow and govern according the Constitution as written by our founding fathers?

Why do we want to elect someone by their appearance, etc? Why not by their ability to govern (not rule) by rule of law rather than rule of man?


9 posted on 10/23/2020 12:33:56 PM PDT by NorthStarOkie
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To: snarkytart
I don’t like “I know people..” kind of so-called evidence. this means nothing.

I have been doing this informally all summer long. I'll ask people "among your circle of friends and acquaintances, how many of them voted for Trump in 2016 but aren't going to vote for him in 2020 and how many didn't vote for Trump in 2016 but are going to this time?" Every time, the second group was larger than the first. In most cases, the first group consisted of zero people and in several cases, the respondent admitted to being in the second group. Probably as reliable as polls with 1-2% response rates.

10 posted on 10/23/2020 12:35:27 PM PDT by CommerceComet (Joe Biden: Showing his leadership by cowering in the basement like a scared child.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Partner, you are correct and the pollsters have got egg on their face and the MSM is all for Hiding Biden.

Enough of the Far Left Communist MSM.

11 posted on 10/23/2020 12:51:24 PM PDT by TheConservativeTejano (God Bless Texas..)
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To: Kaslin

I think Trump will win with a few flipped states...


12 posted on 10/23/2020 1:14:35 PM PDT by Deplorable American1776 (Proud to be a DeplorableAmerican with a Deplorable family...even the dog is, too. :-) Trump 2020t)
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To: Kaslin

Trump losing voters? Doubtful. And the ones voting Trump now who did not in ‘16 are huge.


13 posted on 10/23/2020 1:32:32 PM PDT by lurk
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To: Kaslin
Another essay along the same lines was in the Oct. 17th/18th issue of The Wall Street Journal, page A11, by Tunku Varadarajan. Much of it is given to quoting Fred Siegel, a retired academic, who did not vote for Trump in 2016 but will vote for him in 2020. Interesting article about the arrogance of present-day elites and how they differ from liberals of a couple of generations ago.
14 posted on 10/23/2020 2:33:08 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: snarkytart

Some of my best friends are people that know people...


15 posted on 10/23/2020 7:27:55 PM PDT by calenel (Don't panic. Prepare and be vigilant. Join the war effort. On the human side.)
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