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"'Stunning’ Executive Order Would Politicize Civil Service" - Define Stunning
Government Executive Magazine ^ | 10-22-2020 | Erich Wagner

Posted on 10/22/2020 1:42:46 PM PDT by PK1991

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To: ETCM

What if the empirical performance is defined as how many rainbow parades one has attended, white guilt seminars, etc...?

I fear this will ALWAYS be a moving target problem because even empiricism can still be twisted.


81 posted on 10/22/2020 5:53:47 PM PDT by mbj
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To: PK1991

I’m sure it was “stunning” for the protected class. They’re not used to being told they are expendable, i.e, useless


82 posted on 10/22/2020 7:05:13 PM PDT by confederatecarpetbag
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To: PGR88

Government employees at all levels are the MOST protected employees that exist in America

They work less, get paid more, have iron-clad benefits, rarely get fired, and never get laid-off.”

A Privileged Class.


83 posted on 10/22/2020 8:35:12 PM PDT by JPJones (More Tariffs, less income tax.)
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To: mewzilla
Past time to rescind Executive Order 10988

Is this the one that Clinton signed over in England?

84 posted on 10/22/2020 9:03:28 PM PDT by Major Matt Mason (America has a DemocRat and RINO problem.)
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To: PK1991

As far as I’m concerned, all policy or decision making Federal bureaucrats should be fired on a rotating basis every 4 years, regs and policies sunsetted, and start over. These are the people who turn a $10k repair project on a pond spillway in a Federal Refuge into years of delay and hundreds of thousands of dollars spent to inspect the site, assess the “environmental impact”, issue permits, etc., all while the spillway erodes further and the pond drains, losing it and losing it’s flood and sediment control downstream. All while the State DNR could have quickly, competently, and responsibly had the spillway repaired for the original $10k.

No kidding, I was discussing this with the local (State) fisheries biologist for my region, regarding a very nice large pond I’d fished at in the past, but whose spillway washed out several years back and continues to erode. The biologist brings this situation up with the local Refuge management every year, but the Refuge can’t “move” and can’t even let the State DNR take care of the problem because of (direct quote from the State biologist) “a typical federal government process that costs hundreds of thousands of dollars for a stack of paperwork that allows us to do $10K worth of work.”

This isn’t some isolated puddle miles back in the woods and fields, either. It’s a very visible large (and it used to be much bigger) pond, close to a busy road, with a nice large gravel parking lot & signage.

Note the key word in the quote: “typical”.

This crap is killing this country. I know President Trump is trying to “fix it”, but, without considerably greater public outrage, his ability to do so is very limited.


85 posted on 10/22/2020 10:10:46 PM PDT by Paul R. (The Liberal / Socialist goal: Total control of nothing left worth controlling...)
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To: SuperLuminal

...and “fool,” “flotsam,” “feces,” and “f**ktard.”


86 posted on 10/22/2020 10:20:37 PM PDT by HKMk23 (You ask how to fight an idea? Well, I'll tell you how: with another idea!)
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To: Ancesthntr

Great encomium. And I read every word.


87 posted on 10/22/2020 10:20:57 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: dp0622

I’m with you.


88 posted on 10/22/2020 10:21:12 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Ancesthntr

Great post, but, they are not blind to those facts. They hate Trump BECAUSE of those facts.


89 posted on 10/22/2020 11:07:11 PM PDT by Paul R. (The Liberal / Socialist goal: Total control of nothing left worth controlling...)
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To: packrat35

are there other executive orders that refer to the federal bureaucracy?


90 posted on 10/23/2020 10:27:49 AM PDT by ckilmer
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To: PK1991

It should have been done on Jan 20, 2017

Also all heads of cia, fbi, nih, cdc, irs, all us attornies, etc and more should have been fired that day.


91 posted on 10/23/2020 11:53:42 AM PDT by va22030
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To: PGR88
Government employees at all levels are the MOST protected employees that exist in America They work less, get paid more, have iron-clad benefits, rarely get fired, and never get laid-off.

And are RAT activists.

That's how they got their "jobs"....by being good soldiers.

92 posted on 10/24/2020 5:44:07 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Unlike Jeffery Epstein, George Floyd DID kill himself.)
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To: doorgunner69
The gubmint employees are apparently 90%+ democrats already.

That's why I call them bureaucRATs.

A taxpayer over-funded army of campaign workers...always there, always working against We The People.

93 posted on 10/24/2020 5:49:56 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Unlike Jeffery Epstein, George Floyd DID kill himself.)
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To: mewzilla

I was told by someone on this forum that the EO was eventually put into law. Not sure if that’s true.

But you are 100% correct.


94 posted on 10/24/2020 6:35:51 AM PDT by qaz123
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To: Howie66

One of the best things they could do is start moving some of them out of DC, which they tried to do with the Interior Dept. And, of course, all the DC-vermin that work there cried that they didn’t want to move to the Midwest. The upper management likes living in Georgetown. How dare they live among us common folk. Same should go for the Dept of Agriculture. Ain’t no corn or wheat being grown in DC. Put that place where it belongs. Let the Secretaries of these agencies have a small office there for when they’re in DC dealing with the President or Congress. Other than that, work where the work is. With air travel, government planes at their disposal and Zoom, no need for that bureaucracy to be in DC anymore.

And then, in his 2nd term, order all agencies to cut 2% from everything the first year, from every level in the agency. Most of that could probably come from unfilled positions and folks eligible for retirement, who are just there collecting checks and doing NOTHING. Then up it to 4% the next year. Give folks the opportunity to move to laterally transfer to another agency if an opening is there and their skill set will fill it. Next year, 8%, same thing. Final year, 16%. By then the ship will be fully engulfed in flames and they’ll be bailing out like no one’s business.


95 posted on 10/24/2020 6:43:45 AM PDT by qaz123
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To: qaz123

One sure fire way to drain that Swamp would to be the relocation of our Nation’s Capitol to MINOT, North Dakota. That would also put an end to the “Career Politician” critter.


96 posted on 10/24/2020 7:26:02 AM PDT by Howie66 ("Ghislane Maxwell Didn't Kill Herself")
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To: Ancesthntr

I just came upon and read your long and excellent post. Thanks.


97 posted on 10/27/2020 8:24:55 PM PDT by olivia3boys
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To: olivia3boys

Appreciated!


98 posted on 10/28/2020 11:35:36 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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