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"'Stunning’ Executive Order Would Politicize Civil Service" - Define Stunning
Government Executive Magazine ^ | 10-22-2020 | Erich Wagner

Posted on 10/22/2020 1:42:46 PM PDT by PK1991

President Trump on Wednesday signed an executive order creating a new classification of “policy-making” federal employees that could strip swaths of the federal workforce of civil service protections just before the next president is sworn into office.

The order would create a new Schedule F within the excepted service of the federal government, to be composed of “employees in confidential, policy-determining, policy-making, or policy-advocating positions,” and instructs agency heads to determine which current employees fit this definition and move them—whether they are members of the competitive service or other schedules within the excepted service—into this new classification.

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KEYWORDS: 202010; 20201021; 202101; 20210119; civilservice; classification; executiveorder; federalemployees; policy; schedulef; trump
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To: fortes fortuna juvat

“And I would add that at least a third of them could be laid off tomorrow, government agencies at every level would continue to operate, and most would do so more efficiently than they do now.”


I find it to be deliciously ironic that when there is some huge snowstorm in the DC area, roughly half of the “non-essential” government workers are told to stay home. It’s like some force compels a government spokesman to admit that half of the workers aren’t needed...which, of course, begs the question of “if they’re non-essential, then why in Hell are we paying them?”

Note: in the case of the government, efficiency is generally measured by how LITTLE it does. Less done = more efficiency.

As to your entire post, an uncle of mine who retired from a career with the Dept. of Agriculture about 5 years ago has agreed with you since shortly after he started his career there.


61 posted on 10/22/2020 3:53:40 PM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: PK1991

The objective of this move is to set up the ability to fire the politicized SES and similarly situated creeps that actually run the country for our elected puppet actors.


62 posted on 10/22/2020 3:55:49 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: PK1991

If you want to be rat-f**kers, you stay in the General Schedule.


63 posted on 10/22/2020 3:56:30 PM PDT by jimfree (My 20 y/o granddaughter continues to have more quiality exec experience than an 8 year Obama.)
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To: Cboldt

It will probably end up like the U.S. Attorneys now where they all are cleared out with a new administration.


64 posted on 10/22/2020 3:58:24 PM PDT by PK1991
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To: cgbg

How about we run the bureaucracy our way for four years and then cut it to the ground when we leave? DJT is just the man to do it.


65 posted on 10/22/2020 3:58:37 PM PDT by Rockingham
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To: mewzilla

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_10988


66 posted on 10/22/2020 4:13:14 PM PDT by packrat35 (Pelosi is only on loan to the world from Satan. Hopefully he will soon want his baby killer back)
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To: PK1991
I think this is an excellent and well over due reclassification to a portion of the federal bureaucracy. Keep in mind that for one page of law writing coming out of Congress, 100s to 1000s of pages of implementing regulations are typically ginned up that implement the law. These regs are too often a tangled mess generated by agenda driven decisions and collusion with special interests. Even well intentioned and crafted laws can be and often are twisted by regs to be not recognizable or even the opposite of the lawmakers intent.

Persons setting policy, regulations and supervision need accountability for their actions and the quality of their performance. Entrenched civil servants are virtually immune from accountability.

67 posted on 10/22/2020 4:14:02 PM PDT by Hootowl99
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To: Jim Robinson

Need to purge the obama and clinton rot that infests all the agencies


68 posted on 10/22/2020 4:15:27 PM PDT by ronnie raygun ( Massive mistakes are made by arrogant fools; massive evils are committed by evil people.")
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To: cgbg

Since Trump announced this before the election, he must have decided he didn’t have a chance of winning Virginia.


69 posted on 10/22/2020 4:22:22 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Re-imagine the media!)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

See Post #13 on this thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3896421/posts?page=50#50

I did not post this, so I cannot vouch for its accuracy, but you can make of it what you wish.


70 posted on 10/22/2020 4:28:03 PM PDT by cgbg (Biden n-2020: Criminal enterprise using cokehead as bagman.)
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To: fortes fortuna juvat

I “lived” and worked in WDC for 30 years. So many government “workers “ at all levels are self-entitled, rude and completely unproductive in any sense.


71 posted on 10/22/2020 4:40:43 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp???)
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To: PK1991

You mean civil service can’t sabotage the administration


72 posted on 10/22/2020 4:44:31 PM PDT by dila813
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To: BigEdLB

I’ll call, and raise. Get rid of everybody who has been there more than five years. Eff ‘em.


73 posted on 10/22/2020 4:47:40 PM PDT by Hardastarboard (Three most annoying words on the internet - "Watch the video")
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To: cgbg
Assume that post is correct and VA is tied. Lots of swamp jobs in VA, and in fact that is a major reason why VA has been voting blue.
74 posted on 10/22/2020 5:22:03 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Re-imagine the media!)
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To: PK1991

Awesome!


75 posted on 10/22/2020 5:24:33 PM PDT by TianaHighrider (God bless President Trump)
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To: ducttape45

Collective bargaining.


76 posted on 10/22/2020 5:27:04 PM PDT by arfingcat
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To: PGR88
and never get laid-off.

Now, now they get laid off when the evil Republicans shut the government down.

Of course they are rehired as soon as the government is funded again and they deserve back pay for all that work they missed.

No way I am going to add this </s> to this post.

77 posted on 10/22/2020 5:31:17 PM PDT by itsahoot (The ability to read auto correct is necessary to read my posts understanding them is another matter.)
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To: RedStateRocker
The danger is that this means that the Democrats, once in power, can fire any Trump supporter, or even Republican.

If there actually were any, sure.

78 posted on 10/22/2020 5:47:28 PM PDT by itsahoot (The ability to read auto correct is necessary to read my posts understanding them is another matter.)
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To: PK1991
Starting about 20 years ago, I began seeing the merits of returning to the "Spoils System" of government.
79 posted on 10/22/2020 5:47:32 PM PDT by Oatka
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To: FLT-bird

Hasn’t he been rather busy being under investigation and under attack? Or have you forgotten the impeachment hearings? We do not always see *everything* that goes on.


80 posted on 10/22/2020 5:50:14 PM PDT by mbj
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