Posted on 10/22/2020 7:19:15 AM PDT by artichokegrower
A judge dismissed the third-degree murder charge, but the more serious charge of second-degree murder, along with all other charges against the defendants, remain.
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How do you charge someone with both 2nd AND 3rd degree? Doesn’t seem to make sense.
Can’t they just put his death into the COVID-19 category and move on? /s
“”””How do you charge someone with both 2nd AND 3rd degree? Doesn’t seem to make sense.”””””””””””””””
How do you charge four cops with murder due to a guy dying from a fentnyl overdose?
3rd deg dropped. Judge said no probable cause.
You find for one or the other, sometimes early in the trial one gets dropped, or at instructions.
That’s so odd. You’d think that prosecutors would have to commit to one or the other from the start.
> How do you charge someone with both 2nd AND 3rd degree? Doesn’t seem to make sense. <
I think it’s done to give the jury a choice.
Has the judge been doxxed yet?
These men arrested a career abuser and criminal who had just moments before robbed a store and had a way-beyond-deadly dose of fentanyl in his body.
The perp is now a national hero.
These men will be tortured to death in prison.
Nobody will want to be a cop - or at least arrest a “person of color,” - again.
The owners of the store continue to try to “make amends” for calling the police.
These are America’s last days.
As Joseph Farah said: “fat, lazy, immoral, and stupid.”
How could it be murder?
Floyd overdosed on Fentanyl. His death was his own fault.
Floyd had not robbed a store; he tried to pass a counterfeit bill.
I think that was Brown who had just robbed a store, the got shot when he attacked a cop.
Jury gets to decide which it is, I believe.
This is the most intentionally underreported aspect of this trial, Chauvin and St. George knew each other.
George Floyd and Derek Chauvin knew each other and had a workplace row, former colleague claims
"David Pinney, a former co-worker, said the two men had a history and claimed they knew each other "pretty well".Ms Santamaria said she had employed Chauvin, when he was off-duty from his role as a police officer, to sit in his police car outside El Nuevo Rodeo for 17 years.
Ms Santamaria said Floyd frequently worked as a security guard at the club in the past year. She said both men worked on Tuesday nights."
This woman is gonna fold like a cheap suit on the stand. Plunkett is going to her a hostile witness then cross the everlasting slack out of her:
Yes, I suppose you are right. I get confused with all the robberies, rapes, burglaries, assaults, and murders, all of which, I learn, are my fault. I guess I was referring to our hero Floyd’s gun-to-the-belly robbery of a pregnant woman in the days before. And, of course, grabbing things from a store and not paying for them isn’t robbery, but rather, Social Justice. Sometimes I just can’t sort the perps out. My bad. Where’s Dian Fossey when you need her?
Many times the elements of the crime fulfill most if not all of the charges, leaving the jury to find if the mens rea was present to actually fulfill Murder 2 instead of Murder 3, etc.
But Murder 3 was a bad fit with Murder 2 in these fact circumstances.
"Depraved heart" is impossible since these men knew each other, and you could have testimony from El Rodeo employees that Chauvin had done a solid for St. George even just once, and out goes Murder 3. In fact I would presume that is actually the case, which is an interesting preview to my earlier post.
Note finally that the prosecution left Manslaughter 2 charges in, that now becomes the jury's fallback, as Manslaughter 2 is Minnesota's preferred biased charge against law enforcement.
What we learned after is key and the department is negligent for not releasing the video sooner.
Video is ALREADY public- in that anyone could have been watching out in public.
He looks like all his weight is on his BACK FOOT - not the foot on top of the man, but he was dumb for continuing to do it when there was clearly no more resistance... but he did not kill him.
The video proves the man was struggling to breath BEFORE he was on the ground. Did he swallow all his drugs to avoid arrest?
throw everything at the wall and see what sticks?
I’ll say it again: He used a method approved in a police manual, so if he’s charged with murder of any sort then the people who signed that manual should also be charged with murder. I’m guessing that would include the chief of police, the city manager, the mayor, and maybe all members of the city council. I’m not holding my breath though.
They bash their own head off the ground.
Chauvin did exactly what he was trained to do.
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