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Malcolm X met the Klan to discuss a separate black state
The Times UK ^ | 12th October 2020 | Mark Bridge

Posted on 10/12/2020 5:43:58 PM PDT by Ennis85

A previously unpublished interview with a Nation of Islam minister has revealed a detailed account of a secret two-hour meeting involving Malcolm X and the Ku Klux Klan that discussed an extraordinary unholy alliance.

The conversation on January 28, 1961, detailed in a forthcoming biography of Jeremiah Shabazz, reveals how, on behalf of Nation of Islam leader Elijah Muhammad, Malcolm X and a fellow minister sought the white supremacist terrorist group’s help in acquiring a “separate state” for black Americans opposed to integration.

According to Malcolm X’s fellow minister, the Klansmen offered Nation members the right to wear “purple robes” as Klan partners and sought in vain to enlist the Nation’s help in assassinating Martin Luther King Jr.

The meeting occurred after the landmark Brown versus Board of Education judgment in 1954. Organisations such as the National Association for the Advancement of Coloured People and civil rights leaders such as Dr King aimed to accelerate the pace of desegregation — in the face of stiff opposition from parents, school boards, and the terrorist tactics of the Klan.

The black nationalist Nation of Islam also opposed integration from its side of the race divide, prompting its leader to accept the KKK’s invitation and send Malcolm X to “meet with them devils” at the home of Shabazz, an Atlanta-based Nation minister. The ministers were to discuss common ground and pitch for land in partial reparation for slavery and the Jim Crow segregation era.

Drawing on an interview with Shabazz, who died in 1998, The Dead Are Arising: The Life of Malcolm X, based on 30 years of research by the late journalist Les Payne and his daughter Tamara Payne, describes how Klansmen arrived in the minister’s black Atlanta neighbourhood in a ten-car motorcade.

Malcolm X said the meeting had been authorised by Muhammad.

A Klansman identified as WS Fellows sought to break the ice at the meeting by attacking Jewish people, whom he assumed were a mutual target and claimed were stirring up agitation among Southern blacks.

He bragged that he had been present in 1915 at the lynching of a Leo Frank, a young Jewish man who was convicted on flimsy evidence of raping and murdering a 13-year-old girl. Frank was posthumously pardoned in 1986. “You should have seen that little Jew’s eyes bulge when we pulled that rope,” Shabazz recalled Fellows saying.

After Malcolm X made his case for “complete separation of the races”, as opposed to segregation or integration, enabled by the acquisition of land, Fellows replied: “Whatever you [. . .] want, it’s fine. Call it whatever you like. As long as you stay over there and you’re glad to be black, good.”

At the meeting, infiltrated by an FBI informant in the Klan, Fellows then suggested that Nation of Islam members could be “partners” of the Klan.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Israel; Miscellaneous; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 1915; 1961; antisemitism; blacknationalists; blackseparatists; democratscandals; elijahmuhammad; israel; jerusalem; kkk; leofrank; letshavejerusalem; lindasarsour; louisfarrakhan; lynching; malcolmx; martinlutherkingjr; nationofislam; noi; racism; segregation; shabazz; waronterror; womensmarch; wsfellows
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To: PAR35
And Reinhard Heydrich was probably part Jewish.

Racism is not logical or sane.

21 posted on 10/12/2020 6:38:38 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (And lead us not into hysteria, but deliver us from the handwashers. Amen!)
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To: Hieronymus
That said, with Christianity, purple for a variety of reasons became a liturgically penitential colour, and white trumps purple.

Liturgically perhaps. But I was speaking of the symbolism of political power.

Purple is the color of Emperors and Kings.

22 posted on 10/12/2020 6:40:34 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit)
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To: dp0622
Leave them alone!!

They don’t bother anybody.


Well, they have a culture which values education, hard work and achievement. That apparently breeds a lot of resentment. Asian-Americans and Indian-Americans are experiencing a lot of the same thing these days - mostly from liberals.
23 posted on 10/12/2020 6:42:20 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: Wiz-Nerd

I am from East Texas and they can come on down. I just know they would be met with open arms.

Do I really need the little /s?


24 posted on 10/12/2020 6:43:06 PM PDT by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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To: Ennis85; MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
On August 15, 1959, the FBI sent a story to the Chicago New Crusader newspaper, stating that Fard was a "Turkish-born Nazi agent who worked for Hitler in World War II".[35] According to the FBI story, Fard was a "Muslim from Turkey who had come to the United States in the early 1900s. He had met Muhammad in prison … where the two men plotted a confidence game in which followers were charged a fee to become Muslims."[35] After the story was published, Elijah Muhammad and Malcolm X subsequently charged Black media outlets, who reprinted the accusation in large numbers, with running the story without requesting a response from the Nation of Islam.: Wallace Fard Muhammad

The Nation of Islam’s initial contacts with white supremacists had, naturally, been quite negative. In one instance, the Nation of Islam bought a plot of Alabama farmland. Soon, a Klan-led effort leased all the land around their farm as an intimidation tactic — and the black Muslims found that their dairy cows kept getting shot. But by 1961, Klan members began to view black nationalism as a pleasing alternative to the growing U.S. movement toward nonviolent integration. As a goodwill gesture, the Klan even reportedly offered more than 20,000 acres of Georgia land to the Nation of Islam, intending to kickstart an exodus of American blacks to segregated homelands. Speaking just before his 1968 death, Malcolm X said that he personally reviewed the Klan’s land offer, and brokered a truce between the two organizations. “From that day forward the Klan never interfered with the Black Muslim movement in the South,” said X. . .: The weird time Nazis made common cause with black nationalists

25 posted on 10/12/2020 6:43:24 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: SunkenCiv; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ..

“How about that for ahead of his time — a two state solution! /s”

SunkenCiv, you are one of the most knowledgeable poster’s here. As usual, spot on. History is important. Very important. Thank you.


26 posted on 10/12/2020 6:43:51 PM PDT by Wiz-Nerd
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To: wbarmy

“I am from East Texas and they can come on down. I just know they would be met with open arms.”

What part? North or South? I am from Northeast Texas. Same here. Those Texas boys will be waiting on them with Welcome Baskets /s.


27 posted on 10/12/2020 6:47:54 PM PDT by Wiz-Nerd
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To: Ennis85

Paging Dave Chappelle...


28 posted on 10/12/2020 6:52:48 PM PDT by rfp1234 (Caveat Emperor)
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To: Ennis85

>>Malcolm X said the meeting had been authorised by Muhammad....

And then he flew off in his UFO.


29 posted on 10/12/2020 7:17:35 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Joe Biden- "First thing I'd do is repeal those Trump tax cuts." (May 4th, 2019)l)
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To: Ennis85

Desegregation didn’t work in the old days.

People were still separated by color.

And, up till recently, people could still be racist/bigoted, even if wrong.

But...

Everything was fixed in the last year or so.

We now have BLM and Antifa, who have corrected all the wrongs of the past. We are all now living in the land of love and merriment. No more racism, and equality has been achieved, and we have to thank those government/political officials in liberal-blue-states who went along with the demands of BLM and Antifa. That fixed everything.

No more hate and no more looting or violence or racism.

It’s a whole new world out there.


30 posted on 10/12/2020 7:18:06 PM PDT by adorno
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To: icclearly

And yet other nations that brought in more slaves don’t get such global condemnation.


31 posted on 10/12/2020 7:19:25 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Joe Biden- "First thing I'd do is repeal those Trump tax cuts." (May 4th, 2019)l)
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To: Ennis85

More recently, too.

https://www.nytimes.com/1985/10/03/us/klan-figure-met-with-farrakhan.html


32 posted on 10/12/2020 7:25:13 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: dp0622
Leave them alone!!

They don’t bother anybody.

Yeah, but they win way more than their share of Nobel prizes and create way more than their share of lifesaving vaccines.

It just ain't FAIR!

33 posted on 10/12/2020 7:28:38 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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To: Ennis85

Doubtful


34 posted on 10/12/2020 7:33:41 PM PDT by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: Ennis85

Strange bedfellows.


35 posted on 10/12/2020 7:33:45 PM PDT by JerseyDvl ("If you're going through hell, keep going.")
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To: Wiz-Nerd

Lake O’ the Pines, toward Big Sandy. Lots and lots of cousins up there.


36 posted on 10/12/2020 7:37:24 PM PDT by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

SS member #2 was part Jewish. Hitler had to intervene on his behalf (Emil Maurice). Fired when he got caught bedding Hitler’s niece, but retained official protection.

Hitler even protected at least one full Jew from persecution (his mother’s physician).

Then there was Field Marshal Milch. Stephanie von Hohenlohe (protected by Himmler) and Sophie Lehar (protected by Goebbles probably to keep Hilter happy).


37 posted on 10/12/2020 7:37:43 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: dp0622

Gee whiz, no Anne Frank jokes at the meet-up ? What a bunch of pikers.


38 posted on 10/12/2020 7:41:34 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Want Stalinazism More ? PLUGS-WHORE 2020 !)
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To: PAR35

I get a kick out of the folks here who think Malcolm X was Zero’s daddy. If that were the case, Zero would’ve looked as Caucasian as the Wendy’s girl.


39 posted on 10/12/2020 7:45:54 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Want Stalinazism More ? PLUGS-WHORE 2020 !)
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To: Wiz-Nerd
Thanks for the kind remark!

40 posted on 10/12/2020 8:22:11 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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