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COVID-19 Update - 10/11/20
My own workup | 10/11/20 | DoughtyOne

Posted on 10/11/2020 8:11:33 PM PDT by DoughtyOne

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1 posted on 10/11/2020 8:11:33 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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2 posted on 10/11/2020 8:11:51 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (If you're neverTrump at this point, drop the charade, you're just never the United States.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Increased finding of cases is good.
It means cases are found and treated earlier- leading to better outcomes for the patient and the public.
Need ICU and hospitalization numbers.


3 posted on 10/11/2020 8:17:32 PM PDT by mrsmith (US MEDIA: " Every 'White' cop is a criminal! And all the 'non-white' criminals saints!")
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To: DoughtyOne

No PA Department of Health press release today, so no LTC death update. Maybe tomorrow, certainly Tuesday.


4 posted on 10/11/2020 8:22:30 PM PDT by lightman (I am a binary Trinitarian. Deal with it!)
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To: lightman

Wolf’s playing with the numbers.


5 posted on 10/11/2020 8:25:08 PM PDT by caww (...This constant pretending the president is a problem is pure evil!...)
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To: caww

Bingo.

One of the reasons why I post them every day. Too many days when LTC new deaths exceed the “total” new deaths.

And they seem to alternate with days with extremely low (even zero) new LTC deaths.

Of course when your Secretary of Health doesn’t know which restroom to use confusion is inevitable.


6 posted on 10/11/2020 8:33:50 PM PDT by lightman (I am a binary Trinitarian. Deal with it!)
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To: mrsmith

Thanks for pointing out that angle on it.

The positive testing does remain below 5%, but I’m not seeing
a further move down.

Although what you say does make some sense, globally finding
50% more positive cases now than we did 5-6 weeks ago,
does not encourage me.

It’s beginning to look like another run up developing.


7 posted on 10/11/2020 8:34:23 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (If you're neverTrump at this point, drop the charade, you're just never the United States.)
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To: lightman

Thank you. Look forward to your report tomorrow.


8 posted on 10/11/2020 8:34:45 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (If you're neverTrump at this point, drop the charade, you're just never the United States.)
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To: lightman

They were botching the deaths up before....so it’s not surprising they’re late and or playing around with the numbers.


9 posted on 10/11/2020 8:37:25 PM PDT by caww (...This constant pretending the president is a problem is pure evil!...)
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To: DoughtyOne

” another run up developing.”
In what? Deaths?

I don’t see that, I’m looking to treatment and early discovery.
Seems a reasonable position to me.


10 posted on 10/11/2020 8:50:03 PM PDT by mrsmith (US MEDIA: " Every 'White' cop is a criminal! And all the 'non-white' criminals saints!")
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The first couple of weeks of June, there was a flattening.

New Cases picked up after that. Then around two - three
weeks after that our fatalities spiked up to 1,500-1,800,
and for weeks after that we had 1,000 plus days some in
the mid 1,500s range.

Now that our cases are starting to grow again, I’m very
leery of what is going to be taking place two to three
weeks from now. Serious/Critical cases are growing right
now. They had fallen off pretty good.

Our Active Cases are right now at their highest levels
after about 4-5 weeks of dropping down about 50-60
thousand.

We’ll see how it goes.


11 posted on 10/11/2020 9:06:00 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (If you're neverTrump at this point, drop the charade, you're just never the United States.)
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What is going on with Netherlands?


12 posted on 10/11/2020 9:14:19 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: DoughtyOne

Won’t even try to fault anyone who thinks what happened before will happen again.

We’ll see.

Appreciate your efforts. Would like to see more on metrics that are more current. Don’t know that it can be done.


13 posted on 10/11/2020 9:19:15 PM PDT by mrsmith (US MEDIA: " Every 'White' cop is a criminal! And all the 'non-white' criminals saints!")
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Well...my 94+ MIL went to ER Fri with a lowering blood oxygen level, breathing issues (Congestive heart issues) and lethargy.... ..Sat diagnosed with covid, transferred to another hospital today (bigger city, better for her)...but she seems to be doing pretty good ...we’ll see. Steroids tonight, maybe remsvider (sp) if they can get her kidneys better. ..her Asst Living place will now be scrutinized...but we consider it very good. All there were tested 2 weeks ago...staff tested regularly, etc. Will be interesting.


14 posted on 10/11/2020 9:30:33 PM PDT by goodnesswins (The issue is never the issue. The issue is always the revolution." -- Saul Alinksy)
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I’m tied up for the next two hours, prepping for then
working on data collection.

If I’m still coherent at that time, I’ll try to respond to
you all. If not, I will in the morning.

Thanks for the comments.


15 posted on 10/11/2020 10:09:49 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (If you're neverTrump at this point, drop the charade, you're just never the United States.)
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To: smokingfrog

In raw numbers it doesn’t look good.

If you look at the cases per million, it’s a lot better
positioned.

At this point I prefer to judge nations by their own prior
figures. If a nation goes for five months, then in the
next two months triples it’s numbers, that’s not good no
matter how you slice it.

The Netherlands isn’t the only nation showing a propensity
to add new case way beyond what they were. Both charts
show two or three that are in danger of doing what the
Netherlands is.

It is good to keep the CPM in mind too though.

Yeah, the Netherlands doesn’t look too good right now.

I don’t know why, but some folks have suggested the
winder months are coming, colder temperatures, and such.

Of course the Netherlands has been growing new cases
several months back by now. That wasn’t winter.

Beats me...


16 posted on 10/11/2020 10:51:34 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (If you're neverTrump at this point, drop the charade, you're just never the United States.)
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Explain what you’d like to see, but my bar is pretty high
now about what I add in. I’m pretty maxed out.


17 posted on 10/11/2020 10:52:58 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (If you're neverTrump at this point, drop the charade, you're just never the United States.)
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To: goodnesswins

Best wishes for you. Sorry to hear about that.

I’m not sure who MIL is to you, but I don’t like the idea
of someone special to you having this at that age.

Sounds like your doctors are on top of it. Glad to hear
that. Prayers up...

Take care of yourself too...


18 posted on 10/11/2020 10:55:21 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (If you're neverTrump at this point, drop the charade, you're just never the United States.)
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Yeah, the Netherlands doesn’t look too good right now.

I don’t know why, but some folks have suggested the
winder months are coming, colder temperatures, and such.

Of course the Netherlands has been growing new cases
several months back by now. That wasn’t winter.

Beats me...”

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Do you have an update on the number of
cases of death due to things like cancer
over the past few years and can you compare those numbers?

Seems like death by Cancer is on the decline.


19 posted on 10/11/2020 10:57:07 PM PDT by missthethunder
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To: missthethunder

I do not.

I’m pretty sure I know why you ask.

It would be my guess that you want to make the case that a
lot of other diagnosis related deaths expected, were
misdiagnosed as COVID-19 for payment’s sake. Maybe some
were.

Let me ask you this.

IF a person has bee diagnosed with Cancer and has six months
to live, should they be considered a death from Cancer if
they die in two moths from COVID-19?

I could look up the numbers for you, but would it prove
anything? If COVID-19 took that cancer patient before their
time, even if time was short, isn’t it still a death from
COVID-19? Is that wrong?

I could have COPD and be expected to die in two years.
If I die of COVID-19 this year, is that legit?

Where do we draw the line?

If it’s within six months of a diagnosed death due to cancer,
do we consider it a death from cancer if they die of COVID-19 in say four months?

How about three months, or two?

Where do we draw the line? At what point is it reasoned
to state that it is legit for the cancer deaths to be
lower one year because something else took those patients
first?

What if a cancer patient has two more months to live, but
dies an an auto accident? Was the diagnosis of death from
blunt force trauma in an auto accident incorrect?


20 posted on 10/12/2020 12:27:20 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (If you're neverTrump at this point, drop the charade, you're just never the United States.)
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