Posted on 10/08/2020 8:02:58 AM PDT by Kaslin
And by the way, the reason guitar players like the Bouree in E minor is it has a lot of contrary motion in it. Perhaps you know what I mean by that. Anyway, it’s a nice piece to study and influenced a lot of rock back in the day.
No they aren’t. Some sure. But you can’t make the blanket statement. For one thing there’s too many subsections of rock and their audiences. Prog rock audiences tend to be very well versed in classical music, prog tends to tie very tightly to it. Oddly enough there’s a subsection of metal audiences that are also well versed, because there’s actually a significant overlap between prog and metal. It’s a big world, blanket statements tend to be wrong.
>> I never found one thing VH did that was novel.
Finger tapping?
There’s an abundance of crapsical music out there, or garbage that pretends to be “classical” music.
He was amazing.
I’d already been playing guitar for a few years when he blasted onto the scene in 1978; I was 17, and grew up learning Mick Taylor, Keith Richards, Ronnie Woods, Ritchie Blackmore, Jimmy Page, Jeff Beck, Hendrix, and Eric Clapton’s guitar licks.
I remember thinking “Good lord... how the **** is he doing that???” and then immediately set about trying to emulate his technique and his sound.
He launched an entirely new style of rock guitar playing with a mastery that was dazzling and inspirational.
His death is very, very sad to me...
RIP Eddie... and thank you for all the music.
People can disdain rockers all they like, but it doesn’t change the fact that many are extremely talented musicians. Ian Anderson, Keith Emerson, Matthew Bellamy, Prince, Pete Townshend, Brian May, too many too list.
Yeah. I was mostly pointing out his stupidity. “No rock fans play instruments”. So where do all these bands come from?
I’ve always thought Hair Metal came from British Glam Rock. I mean were Def Leppard and Motley Crue influenced by Van Halen?
There’s kind of a whole continuum. British glam didn’t really do well here. Then the LA thing blew up and they took some of glam’s look, EVH’s guitar style (best they could) and DLR’s lyrical style and BOOM hair metal. Def Leppard is interesting cause they’re British and changed. At first they were following Maiden and Saxon in the NWOBM movement. But nobody really cared, and honestly they weren’t good enough (NWOBM has a high degree of musicianship). Then the hair thing exploded in America and Leppard reinvented themselves. Crue are probably the closest adherents to what Van Halen did. Mick Marrs went heavily for that high tone guitar, Vince Neil was all blond and pretty, and most of their songs are about partying. They’re kind of the guys that turned it into a form, next thing you know everybody playing on the strip is changing their tuning and dying their hair. Then the A&R guys show up and give contracts to everybody that looks like VH or MC if you squinted hard enough. I’ve heard it described as The Raid cause it just seemed like guys in suits showed up and took everybody away. Crazy time in music.
Friday bump
Right, LA hair metal was an imitation of VH with glammy style compensating for the shortfall in musicianship.
Go find Eruption. Listen to it with no visuals.
I once watched a south american exchange student (who played brilliant classical guitar) reproduce the sound on a classical guitar. The song is actually very good.
I am a VH enthusiast, but I will simply advise that you listen - not watch - the song. It is worth it, IMHO.
For my age group (58) Kiss was kind of our starter band in 1973 and they will always have a special place in my CD case. Ace, well... he did his job when he was with the group; solo — OUCH.
I get it with Geddy’s voice — I would observe that the ‘screech’ or ‘nasal’ or ‘whine’ elements of his vocals had been smoothed over quite a lot as he got older. https://youtu.be/BT8d4NNtZJI Headlong Flight from Clockwork Angels for example.
For us pushing 60 guys, you gotta add Jimmy Page onto that list too... He was at the top of the heap 1970-1978 between Hendrix and Van Halen.
How lucky were we, to get to hear the music those guys made as it was happening?
One of the highlights of my life...Rainbow and Gamma in 1978, Syracuse, NY...second row seats in a theater setting...about twenty feet away from both Ritchie Blackmore AND Ronnie Montrose on the same night...OMG!
There was rhythm in there? /jk
I imagine that probably what made Ozzy leave and try to find his own EVH, in the form of Randy Rhodes.
DLR pretty much copied Jim Dandy, of Black Oak Arkansas.
Eruption - 102 seconds that changed Rock forever.
Yes, well I missed all that. My son however lapped it all up like honey flowing from heaven. He insisted on taking his ten year old son to a concert. Strangely, my grandson was not impressed
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