Posted on 09/27/2020 7:41:53 AM PDT by nwrep
For Democrats and supporters of Joe Bidens presidential campaign, the hope is that the version of the former vice-president who faced then congressman Paul Ryan back in 2012 shows up to debate Donald Trump on Tuesday in Ohio.
The Biden who showed up for the Ryan debate helped turn around Barack Obamas re-election campaign. Ask just about any Obama campaign alumna or Democratic strategist and they will concede that Obamas performance against Mitt Romney in the first debate was lacking.
I would describe what he did in 2012 as a circuit breaker, said Tad Devine, who ran Vermont senator Bernie Sanders 2016 presidential campaign.
Obamas performance was just miserable, Devine said. Biden went in there against Ryan and, boy, he was appropriately aggressive. On point. Really drove the thing and I think staunched the bleeding.
The Biden who took the stage alongside Ryan surprised some. He was energetic and policy literate. And he didnt produce the verbal missteps that for years he was famed for. As Ryan ticked off statistics or delivered carefully crafted attack lines, Biden switched between stern seriousness and exasperated eyerolls. Seven minutes in, Biden used one of his trademark phrases Malarkey! to parry a remark by Ryan.
Not a single thing he said is accurate, Biden said with a determined smile, then went on to detail how Ryan, as chairman of the House ways and means committee, had a hand in cutting off funding for a US embassy in Benghazi.
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It would be an improvement over his 2008 performance, when Sarah Palin wiped the floor with him.
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Donald Trump is NO Paul Ryan ..... dream on, Dementiacrat Demon Rats.
Sounds like theyre hoping for a miracle.
blech- Ryan vs Biden, 2 a holes for sure.
Trump is no Ryan.
Biden is 8 years older.
I cant imagine how many drugs his handlers will need to give him to stimulate his brain and body for an hour. The levels may kill him.
And virtually nothing he said was true.
I hope they dont take Biden too lightly. He will be juiced to the gills to make him as lucid as possible. The media will trumpet his mere appearance Tuesday as a resounding victory.

OTOH, Victims of domestic abuse said it was too painful to watch then-VP Biden debate Ryan.
They could not watch........ as Biden reinforced the abuse they received.
VP Joe Biden reminded them of their abusers tactics
<><> the smirking,
<><> the put-downs,
<><> the laughing when they tried to make a serious point,
<><> not listening to their concerns.
One example was when Ryan mentioned JFK to make a point. Biden jumped in laughing uproariously, "So now you're Jack Kennedy!!"
Folks you forgot Biden has dementia.
Ryan probably agreed with everything Biden said.
Ryan was the biggest wuss I have ever seen run for office.
I could have kicked his ass in a debate.
President Trump knows how to deal with every kind of person there is. He knows when to be gentle and he knows when to pound someone into the ground.
Undoubtedly...........
LOL....good one....Biden may even need a “shot break.”
I’m more worried about Chris Wallace than Biden. Trump will be debating 2 people.
Has the media declared Senile Joe the winner yet?
The Guardian as usual is full of it. Biden came off like a fool. Laughing like an idiot instead of addressing Ryan’s points.
Ryan took the job to pass the tax bill
Ryan crafted and passed the largest tax cut and Reformation to american taxation in history. His job was not to bow to conservative whims
Ryan worked hand in glove with the Republican President Donald Trump to get it accomplished.
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