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Biden’s team hopes for repeat of his 2012 performance as Trump debate nears
Guardian ^ | September 27, 2020 | Staff

Posted on 09/27/2020 7:41:53 AM PDT by nwrep

For Democrats and supporters of Joe Biden’s presidential campaign, the hope is that the version of the former vice-president who faced then congressman Paul Ryan back in 2012 shows up to debate Donald Trump on Tuesday in Ohio.

The Biden who showed up for the Ryan debate helped turn around Barack Obama’s re-election campaign. Ask just about any Obama campaign alumna or Democratic strategist and they will concede that Obama’s performance against Mitt Romney in the first debate was lacking.

“I would describe what he did in 2012 as a circuit breaker,” said Tad Devine, who ran Vermont senator Bernie Sanders’ 2016 presidential campaign.

“Obama’s performance was just miserable,” Devine said. “Biden went in there against Ryan and, boy, he was appropriately aggressive. On point. Really drove the thing and I think staunched the bleeding.”

The Biden who took the stage alongside Ryan surprised some. He was energetic and policy literate. And he didn’t produce the verbal missteps that for years he was famed for. As Ryan ticked off statistics or delivered carefully crafted attack lines, Biden switched between stern seriousness and exasperated eyerolls. Seven minutes in, Biden used one of his trademark phrases – “Malarkey!” – to parry a remark by Ryan.

“Not a single thing he said is accurate,” Biden said with a determined smile, then went on to detail how Ryan, as chairman of the House ways and means committee, had a hand in cutting off funding for a US embassy in Benghazi.

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
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1 posted on 09/27/2020 7:41:53 AM PDT by nwrep
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It would be an improvement over his 2008 performance, when Sarah Palin wiped the floor with him.

:)


2 posted on 09/27/2020 7:43:34 AM PDT by Dana1960
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To: nwrep

Donald Trump is NO Paul Ryan ..... dream on, Dementiacrat Demon Rats.


3 posted on 09/27/2020 7:43:54 AM PDT by Qiviut ("I have never wished death upon a man, but I have read many obituaries with pleasure" Mark Twain)
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To: nwrep

Sounds like they’re hoping for a miracle.


4 posted on 09/27/2020 7:44:17 AM PDT by Col Frank Slade
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To: nwrep

blech- Ryan vs Biden, 2 a holes for sure.


5 posted on 09/27/2020 7:44:33 AM PDT by ronniesgal (Q. why did the chicken cross the road? A. It's Trumps fault and you're a racist!)
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To: nwrep

Trump is no Ryan.
Biden is 8 years older.


6 posted on 09/27/2020 7:44:34 AM PDT by Ouchthatonehurt
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To: nwrep

I can’t imagine how many drugs his handlers will need to give him to stimulate his brain and body for an hour. The levels may kill him.


7 posted on 09/27/2020 7:44:45 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: nwrep
He was energetic and policy literate. And he didn’t produce the verbal missteps that for years he was famed for.

And virtually nothing he said was true.

8 posted on 09/27/2020 7:44:56 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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I hope they don’t take Biden too lightly. He will be juiced to the gills to make him as lucid as possible. The “media” will trumpet his mere appearance Tuesday as a resounding victory.


9 posted on 09/27/2020 7:45:23 AM PDT by ScottinVA (First, letÂ’s deal with the election; then weÂ’ll deal with BLM.)
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To: Dana1960

OTOH, Victims of domestic abuse said it was too painful to watch then-VP Biden debate Ryan.

They could not watch........ as Biden reinforced the abuse they received.

VP Joe Biden reminded them of their abusers’ tactics
<><> the smirking,
<><> the put-downs,
<><> the laughing when they tried to make a serious point,
<><> not listening to their concerns.

One example was when Ryan mentioned JFK to make a point. Biden jumped in laughing uproariously, "So now you're Jack Kennedy!!"

10 posted on 09/27/2020 7:45:54 AM PDT by Liz ( Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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Folks you forgot Biden has dementia.


11 posted on 09/27/2020 7:46:18 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: Liz

Ryan probably agreed with everything Biden said.


12 posted on 09/27/2020 7:47:16 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: nwrep

Ryan was the biggest wuss I have ever seen run for office.

I could have kicked his ass in a debate.

President Trump knows how to deal with every kind of person there is. He knows when to be gentle and he knows when to pound someone into the ground.


13 posted on 09/27/2020 7:48:04 AM PDT by shelterguy
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Undoubtedly...........


14 posted on 09/27/2020 7:48:08 AM PDT by Liz ( Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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To: PGR88

LOL....good one....Biden may even need a “shot break.”


15 posted on 09/27/2020 7:48:54 AM PDT by Liz ( Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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To: nwrep

I’m more worried about Chris Wallace than Biden. Trump will be debating 2 people.


16 posted on 09/27/2020 7:51:04 AM PDT by Helicondelta (Deplorable)
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To: nwrep
Biden will just do his angry crazy man act and the MSM will eat it up


17 posted on 09/27/2020 7:51:13 AM PDT by Kid Shelleen (Beat your plowshares into swords. Let the weak say I am strong)
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To: ScottinVA

Has the media declared Senile Joe the winner yet?


18 posted on 09/27/2020 7:51:13 AM PDT by bray (Pray for President Trump)
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To: Liz

The Guardian as usual is full of it. Biden came off like a fool. Laughing like an idiot instead of addressing Ryan’s points.


19 posted on 09/27/2020 7:52:04 AM PDT by gibsonguy
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To: shelterguy

Ryan took the job to pass the tax bill

Ryan crafted and passed the largest tax cut and Reformation to american taxation in history. His job was not to bow to conservative whims

Ryan worked hand in glove with the Republican President Donald Trump to get it accomplished.


20 posted on 09/27/2020 7:54:07 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) t Zip-a-dee-doo-dah, zip-a-dee-ay My, oh, my, what a wonderful day)
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