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State Dept. Spox: ‘There Is No Military Solution to the End of the War in Afghanistan’
Breitbart ^ | September 12 2020 | Ian Hanchett

Posted on 09/13/2020 7:14:19 AM PDT by SmokingJoe

On Saturday’s broadcast of the Fox News Channel’s “Fox & Friends,” State Department Spokesperson Morgan Ortagus discussed negotiations for a peace deal in Afghanistan and stated that “there is no military solution to the end of the war in Afghanistan.”

Ortagus said, [relevant remarks begin around 3:50] “We have had 19 years of fighting in Afghanistan, 19. … This is the hardest stuff that we do in diplomacy, to get to the end of a war. We know that there is no military end to the — there is no military solution to the end of the war in Afghanistan. So, we are going to try our best to bring all sides to the table, women, civil society, the government of Afghanistan, and the Taliban to end America’s longest war.”

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; bahrain; uae
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Long past time to get the heck out of Afghanistan. Right now there is zero reason to remain there and billions of dollars worth of reason's to to get out. The worst than can happen after we leave is that the Taliban takes over, well so what? The Taliban effectively control most of the country right now anyway. Outside of the serious stuff, that Morgan Ortagus is HAWT! Never even heard of her before.
1 posted on 09/13/2020 7:14:19 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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we are going to try our best to bring all sides to the table

Do it over the phone.

2 posted on 09/13/2020 7:17:18 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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There IS one military solution, but I don't think anyone wants to do it.


3 posted on 09/13/2020 7:19:26 AM PDT by MuttTheHoople (What if the Lord sent COVID-19 to immunize the world from something more deadly?)
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Instead of ending the war we should stir it up getting the entire country fighting (they’ve been fighting among themselves for centuries so it is their natural state), then pull out. If someone or a group gains dominance then send in special ops to take them out and stir things up again.

Keep them fighting within the country so they don’t have the resources to export terror.


4 posted on 09/13/2020 7:22:40 AM PDT by where's_the_Outrage? (Drain the Swamp. Build the Wall.)
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To: SmokingJoe

Well, there is.

But it won’t be used.


5 posted on 09/13/2020 7:23:24 AM PDT by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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Of course there is a military solution to Afghanistan as the place has been successfully conquered and controlled militarily several times.

Timur, Great Khan, islamic armies and tgr Soviets (up until American intervention) plus others all had conquered the place.

The common denominator?

Extreme brutality with mass killings on a grand scale.

America won’t do that - so pull out.


6 posted on 09/13/2020 7:24:25 AM PDT by 2banana (Common ground with islamic terrorists-they want to die for allah and we want to arrange the meeting)
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To: MuttTheHoople

You beat me to it.


7 posted on 09/13/2020 7:24:37 AM PDT by KC_Lion
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To: 2banana

Genghis Khan


8 posted on 09/13/2020 7:25:28 AM PDT by 2banana (Common ground with islamic terrorists-they want to die for allah and we want to arrange the meeting)
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To: SmokingJoe

Unless you are prepared to commit genocide you will never win a war against an un-organized group of people without a strong central government.


9 posted on 09/13/2020 7:25:48 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN (I am not an expert in anything, and my opinion is just that, an opinion. I may be wrong.)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Don’t have to stir them up, they are Muslim. Murder is their religion.

There is only a spiritual solution, and that they have to do for themselves.


10 posted on 09/13/2020 7:27:02 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Afghanistan did not export terror.

A bunch of Saudis, and an Egyptian, living there did.


11 posted on 09/13/2020 7:27:51 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Think like youÂ’re right, listen like youÂ’re wrong)
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To: SmokingJoe

There is a solution, but the U.S. does not have the will, or the necessity of performing the solution. That solution is/would have been to, from the start, conduct the war in WWII style - no targets are off limits and the necessary targets would be where ever the Taliban were, which would have included in Pakistan as well; and we would have fight like hell with every means we had until unconditional surrender. There was never going to be enough public sentiment for that and everyone from GWBush on has understood that. BUT that would have won the war and nothing else was going to. We could have admitted that truth years ago. Only Trump has been willing to admit it.

It all still makes me feel very bad, for our troops that died in Afghanistan. We have some guilt that we never gave them everything to win in the first place, and guilty too that we will leave having gained nothing. I say gained nothing because the odds favor the Taliban again dominating Afghanistan.


12 posted on 09/13/2020 7:36:31 AM PDT by Wuli
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There was never any reason for us to have boots on the ground there.
They do not want to join the 21st century.


13 posted on 09/13/2020 7:36:52 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents|Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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Afghanistan hqs been invaded by the British, the Russians and sadly the Americans. Each despite their modern weaponns and power have been badly bloodied by a people who simply will not tolerate foreigners dictating policy in their medeival culture and homeland. If Trump gets a second term, believe that he will purge the globalists in the Pentagon and manage a total withdrawal. Next the Chinese will take a crack at Afghanistan. They will be lured by all those minerals said to be untouched in those mountains. Things will get very interesting for the Chinese.


14 posted on 09/13/2020 7:37:28 AM PDT by allendale
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What does Afghanistan produce which brings in money? What serves as motive for fighting over control of territory?

The poppy fields.

Have drones patrol the region at high altitude. When they spot a poppy crop, drop a bomb which disperses herbicide all over the field. No boots on the ground, just destroy the basis of the terrorist economy.

Let them eat rocks.


15 posted on 09/13/2020 7:43:28 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (A Leftist can't enjoy life unless they are controlling, hurting, or destroying others)
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bttt


16 posted on 09/13/2020 7:47:04 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: allendale

The Chinese will have no problem exterminating the Afghans, and repopulating the area with their own people.

As with the Uighurs, they will take the young women and distribute them among themselves.


17 posted on 09/13/2020 7:47:10 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (A Leftist can't enjoy life unless they are controlling, hurting, or destroying others)
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To: Wuli

Question is do we even want to conquer and control the country? To what end?
We’ve already wasted over a trillion dollars in that hell hole country, a lot of it in nation building on stuff like roads, bridges, electricity plants etc, which the Taliban promptly blew up after completion.
Afghanistan is of no value to this country. If they want to slaughter each other in perpetuity, that’s not our problem.


18 posted on 09/13/2020 7:49:52 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: SauronOfMordor

Why would the Chinese or anyone want to invade Afghanistan? Of what value are they to anybody?


19 posted on 09/13/2020 7:51:38 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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What does Afghanistan produce which brings in money? What serves as motive for fighting over control of territory?
The poppy fields.

We haven't been able to stop coca plants and cocaine from South America and Mexico after spending hundreds of billions of dollars to support the militaries in those countries. What makes you think we can stop the cultivation of poppy in Afghanistan?

20 posted on 09/13/2020 7:55:45 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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