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Britain could ban large social gatherings until Christmas as Europe sees rise in coronavirus cases
Fox News ^ | September 9, 2020 | Stephen Sorace

Posted on 09/09/2020 10:24:47 PM PDT by familyop

The limits are set to stay in place for the “foreseeable future,” potentially until or even through Christmas, British Health Secretary Matt Hancock said Wednesday...Sweden drew sharp criticism for its strategy of avoiding a lockdown altogether as deaths spiked earlier this year. More than 5,800 have died in the country, many times higher than the death tolls in neighboring Nordic countries such as Denmark, which has reported 628.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: covid19; draconian; health

1 posted on 09/09/2020 10:24:47 PM PDT by familyop
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To: familyop

Must be Donald Trump’s fault.


2 posted on 09/09/2020 10:32:27 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: familyop

There is a reason we rebelled


3 posted on 09/09/2020 10:36:35 PM PDT by mylife (Opinions: $1, Today's Special, Half Baked: 50c)
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To: All

either bug herd immunity is being reached, or not.

either sweden bug strategy is a win, or not.

which is it??


4 posted on 09/09/2020 10:38:28 PM PDT by SteveH
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To: familyop

Ain’t happening here.

Whatever, we won’t allow it.


5 posted on 09/09/2020 10:43:25 PM PDT by mrsmith (`(US MEDIA: " Every 'White' cop is a criminal! And all the 'non-white' criminals saints!")
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To: SteveH

Lot of good to learn from Sweden’s response.
But too soon to say more.


6 posted on 09/09/2020 10:46:38 PM PDT by mrsmith (`(US MEDIA: " Every 'White' cop is a criminal! And all the 'non-white' criminals saints!")
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To: mylife
Indeed. I'm not exactly an Anglophobe but certainly I'm no Anglophile either. The Brits, for the most part , seem to act as if their our keepers or something and we need their approval for what we feel protects or advances our security and freedom at home and aboard.

One of the particular things that gets under my skin is their anti-2nd. Amendment attitude.

It's worse under my ancestral people the Irish. They simply don't understand our reasons for firearms ownership and open their gobs(mouths) whenever possible to chastise us for reserving ourselves that right.

7 posted on 09/09/2020 11:26:47 PM PDT by jmacusa (If we're all equal how is diversity our strength?)
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To: familyop

They are using tests there that are the same as we use. They “amplify” the sensitivity until they get a positive result from people who have so little virus that they will never have symptoms or be a danger to anyone.


8 posted on 09/09/2020 11:38:08 PM PDT by fireman15
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To: familyop

Croatia or Poland, those are the only two European countries I’d consider visiting...the rest is dead to me.


9 posted on 09/10/2020 3:40:30 AM PDT by CincyRichieRich (2020: Broken glass election)
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To: SteveH

I suspect the fact that the UK is stuck with the NHS has a lot to do with this...


10 posted on 09/10/2020 3:41:56 AM PDT by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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IOW, this is less about WuFlu than the utter national nightmare that the NHS has become.


11 posted on 09/10/2020 3:43:28 AM PDT by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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Last I knew the NHS was/is the UK’s largest employer with over 1,000,000 employees.

Think about the ramifications of that for a bit.


12 posted on 09/10/2020 3:45:28 AM PDT by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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To: SteveH
either bug herd immunity is being reached, or not.
either sweden bug strategy is a win, or not.

There's been a second wave in Europe. Take Spain for example: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/spain/ The first wave had 9,000 cases per day, the second wave had 7,500 cases per day (at the peaks). The first wave peaked at 866 deaths per day. The second wave has 62 deaths per day.

No herd immunity in the way H1N1 created herd immunity by 1920. But the vulnerable people have died. Also treatmemts have improved. Also the second wave is younger healthy people who aren't going to die and will help achieve herd immunity. Also herd immunity is local. Some parts of cities have it right now.

13 posted on 09/10/2020 4:50:08 AM PDT by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways from Sunday)
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To: SteveH
either sweden bug strategy is a win, or not.

Here's Sweden: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/sweden/ Deaths down to one per day on average. Looks like a win? Not that simple. Their economy dropped by 8% in the second quarter about the same as ours. Their drop was greater than all the other Scandinavian countries, although others like Norway were close. Their deaths immediate went much higher than ours, but are now a bit lower. There are no easy wins against the virus. Not possible.

14 posted on 09/10/2020 4:54:41 AM PDT by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways from Sunday)
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To: familyop

The goal is to eliminate Christmas. That will make the invading masses of “immigrants” feel right at home.


15 posted on 09/10/2020 5:42:40 AM PDT by I want the USA back (First debate Sept 29, 9 PM, New York time. Watch Trump knock biden out in the first round.)
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To: familyop

The continually ignored questions:

1. How do they define a “case”?

2. How serious are the real cases — the ones with symptoms?

3. And what about padding of the death statistics by false attribution?


16 posted on 09/10/2020 5:53:47 AM PDT by Socon-Econ (adical Islam,)
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To: familyop

Fast forward to Christmas, “Gatherings are banned until Easter.”

Fast forward to Easter, “Gatherings are banned until fall”.

Rinse. Repeat. How to destroy a nation in 2 easy steps. We are doing the same idiotic thing. I hold out no optimism that US governors will open up after Trump wins re-election.


17 posted on 09/10/2020 5:54:47 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Love your neighbor as yourself. Love your enemies. Turn the other cheek.)
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To: mrsmith
"Ain’t happening here.

Whatever, we won’t allow it.
"

True that throttling production and distribution business activity doesn't make sense. The article includes some hype with emotional triggers, and the real emphasis is on large, drunken crowds. ;)

18 posted on 09/10/2020 7:18:35 AM PDT by familyop ( "Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy".)
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To: SteveH
Britain is the “fat man” of Europe. NHS data shows that in England, 67 per cent of men and 60 per cent of women are now overweight or obese and, by 2030, 10 per cent of the population will have type-2 diabetes on current trends. - https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/boris-johnson-could-solve-britains-obesity-crisis-not-without/

More https://www.quora.com/Does-COVID-19-truly-warrant-a-nationwide-shutdown

19 posted on 09/10/2020 5:36:40 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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