Posted on 09/08/2020 7:57:37 AM PDT by Hojczyk
As the rest of Europe and the world remains under the grip of draconian rules and the threat of new lockdowns, Sweden, which allowed its citizens to remain free throughout the entire pandemic, has pretty much declared victory over the coronavirus.
The country now has one of the lowest infection rates on the planet, and it’s difficult not to admire how it has handled the past year, with no strict lockdown or compulsory face mask rules. All businesses, schools and public places remained open in Sweden for the duration.
“Sweden has gone from being the country with the most infections in Europe to the safest one,” Sweden’s senior epidemiologist Dr. Anders Tegnell commented to Italian newspaper Corriere della Sera.
“What we see now is that the sustainable policy might be slower in getting results, but it will get results eventually,” Tegnell clarified.
“And then we also hope that the result will be more stable,” he added.
Tegnell previously warned that encouraging people to wear face masks is “very dangerous” because it gives a false sense of security but does not effectively stem the spread of the virus.
“The findings that have been produced through face masks are astonishingly weak, even though so many people around the world wear them,” Tengell has urged.
Last week, the European Center for Disease Prevention and Control confirmed Sweden’s drop in infection rate, with only 12 cases per million, compared to 18 in neighbouring Denmark and 14 in nearby Norway.
At the peak of the Sweden’s outbreak, it was seeing 108 new infections per million people, as it pursued a “herd immunity” strategy.
The figures also show that out of 2500 randomly selected and tested people in Sweden, none tested positive, compared to 0.9 percent positive in April, and 0.3 percent in May.
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“a victory lap. Sweden has the 13th highest national per capita fatality rate. Indeed, they were on par with NYS in terms of killing the elderly.”
Sweden’s death index per million is lower than Italy, which had the most draconian lockdown as far as I know.
So, you’re wrong in asserting Sweden’s non-lockdown was harmful compared to lockdown countries.
My ex sister in law who I talk to weekly has a daughter who lives in Sweden.
Swedes are not huggy people.
Swedes are healthier, they eat lot of moose, elk and non-processed foods.
Swedes walk everywhere. It costs 2K to get a license to drive a car
Her daughter teaches classes outdoors,even in winter (not all schools do this, but her school does)
Swedes have national health care office visit 15.00 vs. 120.00 in US.
Nor do I, but I wasn't speaking of mere differences of opinion.
I have great resentment to those whose posts made then appear to have been on the payroll of the Chinese with their constant, irrational over the top panic mongering.
Travis McGee is one of those, and his adept use of colorful graphics, similar to a score of other political thugs of the last hundred years, set him apart from the rest and was especially irritating.
I don’t disagree that there were some FReepers who were clearly panicked. I did not pay special attention to any specific FReepers.
I think most of us would love a do-over for 2020. It has been the most bizarre and unsettling year of my life and I suspect most would say the same.
I have friends who could care less about the virus and shrug and I have friends who have been extremely anxious about it from the outset and are still afraid of it.
My only point was that everyone reacts differently to stress and the unknown, the media really did not help, and I continue to blame China for it.
Exact same trend in the good ol' USofA:
US deaths over time graph (click on US in left most column, click on the > button at the lower right corner, see the graph...)
Farr’s Law holds too. The virus will run its course regardless of what we do. ~ JeanLM
Being one of the latter I guess I can speak for my group and say the country wide lockdown was not worth the cost. I stayed safe and survived. All the little businesses around me won’t survive or will suck up huge amounts of government borrowed capital.
I compared Swedens numbers to New Jersey because they have similar populations of around 10 million. People in both are closer to one another than in the US as a whole. NJ still had 3X the deaths of an open country, so what did the lockdown get us? Lots of old farts like me dead maybe a few months early and a bonkrupt state... oh wait , we already were bankrupt.
I check the curves on Worldometer daily. The death by day curve with 7 day average is my favorite. The US curve has 2 bumps. NJ and Sweden only have the initial rise and the slow decline. Shapes of the curves are identical in the time scale but the death axis for NJ is 3X Sweden’s.
Shutting down a trillion dollar economy wasn't a medical decision, it was a deliberate, malicious political act.
Deliberately placing infectious patients in close quarters with the very most vulnerable populations where there were safe options (Javits center, USNS Comfort) was not a medical decision, it was murder.
Me too, as did my 92 yo mom.
Perhaps I should resurrect my old tag line?
"Quarantine the sick. Shield the vulnerable. Free everyone else!"
Not to mention the psychological effects on children, especially only children, being in what amounts to solitary confinement for six or more months.
Solitary confinement is difficult for hardened criminals, how much more so for innocent children?
Democrats, always ‘for the children’ from abortion on...
“I have great resentment to those whose posts made then (sic) appear to have been on the payroll of the Chinese...”
Eff you, you effing drunken a$$hole, and eff the effing horse that effs your drunken dilated a$$ morning, noon and night, before you turn around and pleasure the horse with your effing facial orifice.
Regarding Sweden COVID-19 “victory,” if I understand correctly, low second peak death rate in Sweden is because virus killed all high risk people in first peak. But isn’t that arguably a pyrrhic victory?
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Most of the deaths in the USA also involved high risk people. Communicable diseases always hit this group the hardest, but life has to go on. The masks, quarantines, and social distancing over this far from lethal disease are killing the quality of our life. The best approach is probably to quarantine and assist the vulnerable rather than quarantine the working people who pay the bills for everyone else.
I never asserted that "Sweden’s non-lockdown was harmful compared to lockdown countries.. But one would have to be daft to cheer about being in the 6th percentile.
So Sweden is satisfied that it’s deaths per million is only 5 to 10 times worse than it’s nearest neighbors. It does not seem to realize that the first lockdown enabled us and doctors to discover common nutrients that are protective and more effective treatments of severe symptoms, so for those who were the most careful, I doubt the overall death percents will ever be as high as Sweden’s.
I doubt that Sweden had a high number of tourists coming back from China where people had gone to celebrate the New Year, or from Italy where high numbers of Chinese fashion workers returned to the Milan area where infection spread to the other tourist areas of Italy. When our tourists were coming home they were questioned about China travel, Italy travel was ignored. Also it is suspected that there are at least 2 major varients of the Covid-19 bug and the one that hit the east coast was the worse one, unlike the cases on the west coast.
Our media used this to bash Trump. Never let a crisis go to waste.
Weekend figures are often too low as the people who report these facts are not at work until Monday, or Tuesday when it is Labor Day or some other holiday. The latest worldometers figure is over 400.
I don’t disagree. Fear, chaos, and misery is their election plan with a healthy does of “social justice”.
NJ isn’t blessed with a large returning Chinese population. NYC is but really NJ and the rest of the Northeast are unique in terms of the death rate if you look at the four or five states as say one equivalent European country. I like your virulent strain idea better.
Italy also has a lot of Chinese workers and that may have influenced their numbers.
Anyway Cuomo, and Murphy play the role of crushers of the virus when in fact they presided over the worst death toll in the world. Whatever they did didn’t affect the viral toll.
If I do a 7 day rolling average, we have to go back to mid July to get a similar death rate. The overall trend is a 8X lower rate on a falling trajectory.
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