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Solar Panels Are Starting to Die. What Will We Do With The Megatons Of Toxic Trash?
American Experiment. ^ | August 27, 2020 | Isaac Orr

Posted on 09/01/2020 11:52:50 AM PDT by george76

Most people seem to believe that wind and solar panels produce no waste and have no negative environmental impacts. Unfortunately, these people are wrong.

In reality, everything that humans do has an environmental impact, whether it be mining, using a coal-fired power plant, or even tourism. When it comes to energy and environmental policy, the real question to ask is not “will there be an impact?” but rather, “can the impacts be minimized?” ...

Because everything has an effect on the environment, it is important that everyone understands the impacts of all energy sources so we can make the best possible energy decisions. We are constantly making trade-offs in our lives whether we recognize it or not.

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Unlike other forms of electricity generation, like nuclear plants or coal plants, there doesn’t seem to be any foresight on how to deal with the waste that will be generated when solar panels and wind turbines reach the end of their short lifetimes. Remember, nuclear plants can run for 80 years, as can coal plants with proper maintenance and upkeep, but even the best wind turbines and solar panels will last for just 25 years, creating staggering amounts of waste products.

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solar panels are expected to generate 866 times more waste in the next 30 years than nuclear power has generated in the last 50. And unlike nuclear waste, which is safely stored on site, nobody knows what will happen to these solar panels at the end of their useful lifetime because solar panels are not easily recycled.

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Unfortunately, most people still don’t understand that wind and solar require enormous amounts of metal, and that much of this metal is mined in Third-World countries that have few protections for workers or the environment.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanexperiment.org ...


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To: stars & stripes forever

Throw them into a Hawaiian or Mexican volcano


Not a good idea because after they melt, the noxious gases and metals would be thrown up into the atmosphere.

Going the volcano route however is workable, if we use the Yellowstone caldera, because while the same processes would happen as in the smaller volcanoes, when it erupts some hundreds of thousands of years from now, the noxious fumes and metals would be the least of our worries.


101 posted on 09/01/2020 3:09:58 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: DoughtyOne
They pay no more now than they did before they installed the system. In five more years, their whole set-up will be paid off, and they will be able to sell power back to the grid without any costs each month.

Only possible with government intervention in the form of subsidies and mandated above- market rates for power sold back to the grid. Eliminate those and it wouldn't be viable.
102 posted on 09/01/2020 3:15:45 PM PDT by armydoc
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To: armydoc

How much above the going rate are they paid for what they
sell back to the grid?


103 posted on 09/01/2020 3:41:36 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Some of the folks around these parts have been sniffing super flu.)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

Yet they hate nuclear power, the cleanest of all.


104 posted on 09/01/2020 3:55:55 PM PDT by Phillyred
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To: george76

I saw this a few weeks ago:
Wind energy companies will have the option of using decommissioned wind turbine blades as backfill material when reclaiming surface coal mine sites soon, thanks to a new bill signed into law earlier this year.

There is a pic that is laughable.
https://trib.com/business/energy/wind-turbine-blades-in-coal-mine-pits-theres-a-new-law-in-wyoming-to-allow/article_df17dbc9-f6db-5eb6-8164-32b25275aa9b.html


105 posted on 09/01/2020 4:55:53 PM PDT by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll eventually get what you deserve)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Nuclear produces no greenhouse gases

Really? That's not even 1% true. The $20 billion price tag should be your first clue. Despite the triple meltdowns at Fukushima using American technology, building a nuclear plant is still allowed, but the idea is now radioactive.


106 posted on 09/01/2020 5:54:09 PM PDT by Reeses (A journey of a thousand miles begins with a government pat down.)
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To: Reeses

That is steam ...


107 posted on 09/01/2020 5:56:14 PM PDT by bankwalker (groupthink kills ...)
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To: bankwalker

Steam is the number one greenhouse gas.


108 posted on 09/01/2020 6:02:30 PM PDT by Reeses (A journey of a thousand miles begins with a government pat down.)
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To: Red Badger

No, they cannot be recycled, at least not without wasting a lot of energy and material.

Solar cells are made with gallium arsenide, hideously toxic.

They have a half life of 15 to 20 years, which means you only get half the energy output after 15 to 20 years.


109 posted on 09/01/2020 6:04:31 PM PDT by Westbrook
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To: Reeses

Those stacks are releasing steam—not CO2!


110 posted on 09/01/2020 6:30:43 PM PDT by jonrick46 (Cultural Marxism is the cult of the Left waiting for the Mothership.)
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To: jonrick46

111 posted on 09/01/2020 6:37:03 PM PDT by Reeses (A journey of a thousand miles begins with a government pat down.)
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To: george76

It seems to me that any energy policy that requires emergency backup on a daily basis, is the definition of waste and redundancy.


112 posted on 09/01/2020 6:45:19 PM PDT by Gumdrop
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Typical liberal thinking. They do not think things through to the inevitable ending.

There is a reason why most liberals are not part of the STEM portion of the education system. They gravitate to ‘studies’, social sciences, etc. Such subjects never think through the consequences whereas STEM subjects have a correct answer, not an opinion answer.


113 posted on 09/01/2020 6:49:50 PM PDT by Gumdrop
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To: Gumdrop
No, it is stupidity! I helped design energy portfolios for six utilities. I would have been fired if I put “renewable energy”, aka incorruptible services in my firm peak day portfolios. This country is full of idiots who are convinced they are brilliant.
114 posted on 09/01/2020 7:05:59 PM PDT by Chgogal (ALL lives matter. If you disagree with me, YOU are the racist.)
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To: george76

Bury them together with the broken wind turbines.


115 posted on 09/01/2020 7:06:39 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: Dilbert San Diego

>>I think nuclear power should be a major part of our energy future.<<

If we can’t develop our oil&gas industry, we have to go nuclear unless we expect our Armed Forces to accept the Tesla technology.


116 posted on 09/01/2020 7:19:32 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: george76

Pack the panels in cargo nets. Use choppers to fly the nets over active volcanoes, like Mauna Loa, and release the nets.

Nature has provided these furnaces for our usage.


117 posted on 09/02/2020 2:45:43 AM PDT by octex
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To: Westbrook

but it’s GREEN ENERGY!.........................................................../S


118 posted on 09/02/2020 5:57:10 AM PDT by Red Badger (Sine Q-Anon.....................very)
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To: george76; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ...

Waste disposal?
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119 posted on 09/03/2020 6:58:20 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

It would be great to find a way to use the enormous amount of power the sun dumps on the earth each day. I don’t think solar panels are any more than the starting point. Some of the mirror and stirling engine technology looks interesting.


120 posted on 09/03/2020 2:01:47 PM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory.)
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