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Declare Fentanyl a Weapon of Mass Destruction
Townhall.com ^ | August 28, 2020 | Martha Boneta

Posted on 08/28/2020 6:58:52 AM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 08/28/2020 6:58:52 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Saint Floyd died of a fentanyl overdose. Look how much that cost us.


2 posted on 08/28/2020 7:01:59 AM PDT by shelterguy
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To: Kaslin
‘From the abuse of a thing, there is no arguing against its use.”


3 posted on 08/28/2020 7:02:29 AM PDT by LIConFem (I will no longer accept the things I cannot change. it's time to change the things I cannot accept)
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I suggested 3 years ago that sanctions be placed on China for the production of fentanyl. Crippling sanctions.

It is costing our nation billions of dollars a year via overdoses and treatment of overdoses. The taxpayers pay for almost all of this one way or another.

It is not just a problem here in the US either. This poison has spread throughout the world.


4 posted on 08/28/2020 7:17:10 AM PDT by volunbeer (Find the truth and accept it - anything else is delusional)
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To: LIConFem

I think you are saying the mere fact a thing can be abused is not an argument against its legitimate use. Is that right?


5 posted on 08/28/2020 7:20:10 AM PDT by ecomcon
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Fentanyl is just the tip of the iceberg. There are much, much worse drugs out there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equianalgesic

(I strongly recommend bookmarking this link for future reference.)

This Equianalgesic table compares the relative strength of painkillers, using oral morphine as its baseline of “1”.

Oxycodone is just rated 1.5 (times as strong as morphine)

Fentanyl is rated at 50-100

Carfentanil is 10,000 times as strong. A dose for a human is *one microgram* (1.0 µg) (It is also very cheap, with a *kilogram* costing only $5,000 - $10,000. The RCMP estimates that just 50 micrograms will almost certainly kill an adult human. Two traffickers have been busted with it, one with a kilogram, the other with 4 kilograms.


6 posted on 08/28/2020 7:22:55 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("All men and women were created by the, you know, you know, the thing.” -- Joe Biden 3/3/20)
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His son, Thomas, injured himself in a roller blading accident and was prescribed opioids to deal with the pain.

Sounds to me like Fentanyl is too dangerous to prescribe to the general public. I can see using it in hospitals or clinics (or hospice) where it can be strictly controlled, but it sounds too potentially lethal to let people dose themselves with it for pain. There are other less lethal meds.

7 posted on 08/28/2020 7:23:20 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte (Does the left like anything about America?)
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A’yup.


8 posted on 08/28/2020 7:23:21 AM PDT by LIConFem (I will no longer accept the things I cannot change. it's time to change the things I cannot accept)
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Except it’s a legitimately prescribed drug.


9 posted on 08/28/2020 7:23:36 AM PDT by discostu (Like a dog being shown a card trick)
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The reason the drug deaths are not politically important and will not stir action is the same reason the daily shootings in Chicago are ignored. They involve an “unimportant” crime subculture and not mainstream America. Sure, plenty of innocent people get hurt or killed, but they are not generally part of the tax paying populace. If software engineers and PTA members were dying through no fault of their own, you would hear a great cry for action.


10 posted on 08/28/2020 7:24:49 AM PDT by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud?)
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To: volunbeer
China has conducted biological warfare through the airline industry and chemical warfare through the Mexican cartels.


That is all.
11 posted on 08/28/2020 7:25:37 AM PDT by IWontSubmit
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China’s response to the Opium Wars, they have long memories


12 posted on 08/28/2020 7:27:13 AM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: LIConFem

For those who need it, fentanyl is a gift from God. I was given a dose when I underwent a bronchoscopy, didn’t feel a thing and walked home less than three hours later.


13 posted on 08/28/2020 7:30:42 AM PDT by Squawk 8888 (I don't run; if you see me running, you should run too.)
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CHY-NA is the weapon of mass destruction!

Chuck Fina!

14 posted on 08/28/2020 7:33:33 AM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (Freedom Is In Peril! Defend it with your life.)
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Fentanyl factories are fixed in place.

Tell the ChiComs to blow them up tomorrow, or we will the next day with cruise missiles.


15 posted on 08/28/2020 7:40:30 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Rioters for Biden!)
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To: Sans-Culotte
I think if you look that the general public has never been able to have fentanyl prescribed, it is a highly regulated drug. The place the general public, a very small segment of the general public, gets it is from illegal sources......drug dealers who get it from illegally from China who sends it to the streets of America...........illegally.

I think you are confusing the son being legitimately prescribed pain medications for an injury with him buying an illegal drug Heroin after he was addicted, and it says something that if he turned to illegal sources his doctor wasn't a shyster pill pusher, and being sold illegal fentanyl which he OD'd on.

I get kind of tired of the demonization of opioids which many of us use legitimately for chronic pain, as I have for many many years, and never get addicted. The author does it in this story by setting up opioids as the bogey man despite the fact that the individual didn't get help for his addiction and turned to illegal drugs from illegal sources, and those are thee drugs that caused his death.

I fell for the parents but we only have one side here and that is from a grieving parent who wants something other than his son to blame.

16 posted on 08/28/2020 7:52:21 AM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Sans-Culotte

Speaking from personal experience I can say that it is amazing when used for certain procedures. I didn’t feel a thing when they shoved a camera down my windpipe and scraped out the inside of my lungs, I have no memory of the experience, there was no hangover and I walked home less than three hours later as though nothing had happened.


17 posted on 08/28/2020 8:09:22 AM PDT by Squawk 8888 (I don't run; if you see me running, you should run too.)
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the general public has never been able to have fentanyl prescribed, it is a highly regulated drug.

Yes, the article led me to believe they had prescribed it to the injured young man.

I get kind of tired of the demonization of opioids which many of us use legitimately for chronic pain, as I have for many many years, and never get addicted.

I had a problem getting Tramadol refilled. I have taken it for years, but I do not take it often. My primary doctor was no longer allowed to prescribe it because it now has to be prescribed by a pain specialist. So, I mad an appointment with the orthopedic doc who did back surgery on me in 2012. He wrote me a new prescription which I filled in October. He wrote a bunch of refills for it, but I am not even a third of the way through the bottle. I only take it on bad pain days, and usually manage to subsist on celecoxib.

I don't understand why people get addicted to pain meds. I only take them if I have pain. Getting a euphoric feeling from meds has never appealed to me. But that's just me. If people want to get wasted, they can drink a picher of martinis or margaritas.

18 posted on 08/28/2020 8:13:36 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte (Does the left like anything about America?)
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The worst thing about the Drug War is the fact that so many patients are being under-medicated. I have a friend who uses a morphine patch; it lasts for two days but his prescription is to replace it every third day. His daily activities revolve around “patch day” because he spends the day before in debilitating agony.


19 posted on 08/28/2020 8:14:34 AM PDT by Squawk 8888 (I don't run; if you see me running, you should run too.)
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To: Sans-Culotte

A lot of research has suggested that most people only become addicted if they continue using the medication after it’s no longer needed.


20 posted on 08/28/2020 8:16:53 AM PDT by Squawk 8888 (I don't run; if you see me running, you should run too.)
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