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1 posted on 08/26/2020 10:28:22 AM PDT by Drew68
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I saw people chasing him and I saw him shooting in self defense after he fell.


89 posted on 08/26/2020 10:53:12 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Where do you find the word "except" in the 2nd Amendment?)
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Overcharge him. Jury acquits him.

Push back on the DA to bring Felony Murder charges against the survivors who attacked him. They were committing a felony assault when their fellow rioters were killed.

DA fails to do bring Felony Murder? Drag them into the wrongful death suit as an accessory after the fact.

93 posted on 08/26/2020 10:53:37 AM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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Need to roll with a gofundme page pronto. He will get millions to be used for his defense.


94 posted on 08/26/2020 10:53:56 AM PDT by greenishness
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Why was a 17 year old kid walking around with an AR? I can see staying in one spot defending your house or business with that AR. No problem. Why be on the move surrounded by these idiots? Yes, if he was forced to move that’s a different story. Where are his parents?

All that said I don’t think he should be prosecuted. Just wondering why he was on the move in that environment. Nothing good was going to come of it. Now he’s screwed.


96 posted on 08/26/2020 10:55:10 AM PDT by strider44
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He’s a juvenile.

Why are they publishing so much information about him?

Whatever happened to sealing the record of a minor?

Were the two he killed antifa?

All this does is encourage people defending themselves to snipe and guerilla warfare. It’s not worth the consequences to do otherwise.


98 posted on 08/26/2020 10:55:23 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith.)
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It appeared to be self defense to me but I've only seed videos in which he was being chased, knocked to the ground, and confronted by the individual he shot in the arm who appears to have had a handgun. I see two problems for him. First, he was in illegal possession of a rifle if he's under 18. There are no open hunting seasons in the city Kenosha. And we don't know what happened before he was chased. If he contributed to an argument which led to the chase, that will be a problem. Presuming the prosecutor is a liberal, he'll probably argue that, though WI is an open carry state, possession (even legally) was contributed to whatever disagreement led to the chase. Then there's disturbing the peace. Urban cities in WI have used that to prosecute legal open carry.

That said, and perhaps some of FR's attorneys could weigh in as I'm not, it seems to me the individuals chasing him, all of them, are complicit in the killings. I'm sorry it happened, this is going to mess up this kid's life.

100 posted on 08/26/2020 10:55:43 AM PDT by SJackson (wondered...what 10 Commandments would have looked like if Moses had run them through..Congress, RR)
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He should’ve stayed at home.


110 posted on 08/26/2020 10:58:50 AM PDT by equaviator (If it seems like it's too bad to be true then maybe it isn't.)
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I just watched what I think is the entire video. The initial shots on camera appeared to be self-defense to me. However, prior to that you can hear guys in the crowd asking “What did he do?” with an answer “He shot someone”. Also there appeared to be several follow-up shots well after those assaulting him cleared out. It looked like he fired a few random shots as he was walking away and somebody in the distance fired some as well. But they may have all come (or not come) from him....too hard to tell.

I don’t know if what we see on video is what is warranting the entirety of the charges or if he is also being charged for something that happened prior to that. Also, I wonder if those follow up shots might also comprise some charges.

If he committed a felony PRIOR to being assaulted (by shooting somebody NOT in self-defense), then I’d guess self-defense would be thrown out the window as the rioters would have been trying to subdue a shooter rather than an innocent bystander being assaulted by rioters.

I found it interesting that he appeared to be trying to turn himself in at the end, but the cops appear to have gone right by him. The gun wasn’t exactly hidden. But I’d conclude that the cops’ first priority was getting to the injured.

I suppose I’ll wait until more of the facts come out here. Just trying to look at this as objectively as possible.


114 posted on 08/26/2020 10:59:18 AM PDT by mmichaels1970
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ping


117 posted on 08/26/2020 11:00:48 AM PDT by Drew68
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Wow, I was in high school at 17.

Kids nowadays are out rioting and killing.

What a difference 50 years makes.


123 posted on 08/26/2020 11:01:59 AM PDT by hattend
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CWII is coming soon.


132 posted on 08/26/2020 11:05:11 AM PDT by Stravinsky (Politeness will not defeat the Marxist revolutionaries)
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Thank you Governor Evers and Dumbass AG! You just handed Trump Wisconsin! Keep it up!

For what it’s worth, DemocRATS, my late father told me when I was young and stupid, “Don’t start a war. You never know how it is going to end.” Well, DemocRATS, MSM, Big Tech, Fortune 500 Corps, Blue State and Cities, you started, promoted, emboldened and donated to this civil war. How are you going to end it?

137 posted on 08/26/2020 11:06:08 AM PDT by Chgogal (ALL lives matter. If you disagree with me, YOU are the racist.)
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The Antifa/BLM crowd were engaged in an organized effort in attacking the man with the rifle. The entire organizations, including those who are funding it, should be charged with attempted murder.


142 posted on 08/26/2020 11:08:52 AM PDT by Petrosius
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Fine him a dollar, he can mail it in.


146 posted on 08/26/2020 11:09:28 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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Nobody is going to tolerate this, NO WAY.

Storm the prison if necessary and get the kid out of jail.

It’s crystal clear he was defending himself.


147 posted on 08/26/2020 11:09:59 AM PDT by Professional
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Suddenly I don’t see any knee-slapping prison rape quips on Free Republic.


161 posted on 08/26/2020 11:12:18 AM PDT by The Toll
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There are a few things that throw a bit of a monkey wrench into a self-defense claim on his part:

1. He’s from Illinois. What was he doing in Kenosha, Wisconsin?

2. Can be legally carry an AR-15 in Wisconsin if he lives in Illinois?

3. Can be even OWN an AR-15 if he’s only 17?

186 posted on 08/26/2020 11:21:59 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("We're human beings ... we're not f#%&ing animals." -- Dennis Rodman, 6/1/2020)
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Innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.


199 posted on 08/26/2020 11:26:29 AM PDT by 1Old Pro (#openupstateny)
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Could have been worse. A fat woman could have had a heart attack nearby.

James Fields was chased by an armed crowd, ran into a few of them with his car trying to get away, and a tremendously overweight woman had a heart attack nearby (unclear at best if Fields’ car struck her). Fields is in prison for life for her murder. This kid’s chances in court are slim.


200 posted on 08/26/2020 11:26:32 AM PDT by cdcdawg (Biden has dementia.)
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Hi.

Sad part is that after a few FReepers saw the video, they posted that the victim would be charged. Hate these type predictions.

CWII can’t be far away.

5.56mm


212 posted on 08/26/2020 11:30:36 AM PDT by M Kehoe (DRAIN THE SWAMP! Finish THE WALL!)
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