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This is for those who think everyone left in CA are liberal stooges. We escaped CA and moved to Arizona about 2 years ago and found a high desert paradise with lots of freedom. Freedoms that would get ya thrown in cages in California. No joke.

After finding our property and moving, I wasn't sure about one of our new neighbors down the road, who've lived here decades before we got here. (Btw, they're originally from Michigan). Until this morning when we saw a Mark Kelly bumper sticker on one of their vehicles. Say no more...lol. FWIW, being from CA, I wouldn't vote for that anti-freedom leftist under direct threat. And the rest of the neighbors we've met? I'd say 60 percent are from CA, and their great freedom loving people who mind their own business. So many from CA, you can see those folks from CA looking for property here as they cruise the areas with CA plates. Same thing we did. In fact, once we drove from S. CA to AZ and back in one day, just to see a property before it got snatched.

Before bailing while still CA enemy territory, I thought a lot about it, and year after year we watched one after another of our patriotic conservative friends and neighbors bail out of CA. From what I've seen, I guess about 70 percent of those bailing out of CA are conservative patriots. They were like us, and reached their own breaking points.

More on this article here below, but it's a pay site and or want your information, and I all but ignore sites like that.

https://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/op-ed/2020/08/24/move-california-arizona-fine-but-leave-your-policies-home/5620418002/

1 posted on 08/25/2020 4:45:34 PM PDT by dragnet2
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This is bad for us. We moved to Phoenix two years ago as renters with a plan to buy a house once we got settled in and knew the area. These %^$# Californians will drive up the prices and cannot be good for the politics or culture.


2 posted on 08/25/2020 4:51:00 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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Then why is AZ turning purple?


3 posted on 08/25/2020 4:54:32 PM PDT by 03A3 (If we can defund the police, we sure as hell can defund the FBI)
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I have a winter house in Arizona and I’m getting out before the Caltards turn Arizona into a total s**thole.


4 posted on 08/25/2020 4:55:08 PM PDT by AlaskaErik (In time of peace, prepare for war.)
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Arizona: the next failed state.

When will the people leaving California realize that, California did not fail. What failed is the people who elected the governments which turned the state into a failure.

When the people of California moved to Arizona, the new state will become the same as the state they left.

When people bring their failed politics with them, failure is bound to follow.


5 posted on 08/25/2020 4:55:35 PM PDT by adorno
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I hope they remember why they left.


6 posted on 08/25/2020 4:58:05 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (In this circus called the Democrat Party, Biden is the monkey and Harris is the organ grinder...)
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https://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/op-ed/2020/08/24/move-california-arizona-fine-but-leave-your-policies-home/5620418002/

They “give” you 10? free articles a month without signing up.


8 posted on 08/25/2020 4:58:12 PM PDT by Do_Tar
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“California Is A Failed State. How Do We Know? They’re Moving To Arizona In Droves...”

California Is A Failed State. How Do We Know? They’re Moving To Arizona In Droves...which is now also turning into a failed state.


12 posted on 08/25/2020 4:59:55 PM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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Californians are moving to Texas in large numbers too.


16 posted on 08/25/2020 5:02:58 PM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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And New Yo’kers to Florida too. Never in the summer have I seen so many NY license plates south bound on 95


17 posted on 08/25/2020 5:06:39 PM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security in hates:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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It is axiomatic that liberals move where there is plenty of money, warm, and inviting. They are like locusts devouring everything in their path. It is a sad fact that if you want to be free, you have to go to where they do not want to go. Forget the seashore.


18 posted on 08/25/2020 5:12:02 PM PDT by Whatever Works
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Wife and I are thinking of a home in the Prescott area, but the stuff we see of interest does not last long.


21 posted on 08/25/2020 5:23:42 PM PDT by doorgunner69 (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading - T Jefferson)
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..we moved to AZ last year. Experienced a mixture of relief and grief. California used to be amazing—now it’s a nightmare...


24 posted on 08/25/2020 5:29:56 PM PDT by WalterSkinner (In Memory of My Father, WWII Vet 2007 , and Mom, the Best Mother Ever 2019)
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Feel bad for the Arizonans, we here in Washington and Oregon got invaded by fleeing Californians in the ‘80’s and ‘90’s, and as everyone knows both states have become liberal crap holes.


26 posted on 08/25/2020 5:38:01 PM PDT by PROCON (Voting Democrat in November is tantamount to kneeling on the throat of Lady Liberty.)
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The problem seems to me to be that someone can be conservative on a relative scale (comparing that person to the average California lefty, for instance), yet not be very conservative at all. A lot of these folks move out of California, thinking they’re quite conservative, but they’re not when it comes to voting.


27 posted on 08/25/2020 5:40:33 PM PDT by HartleyMBaldwin
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Elitists in CA DO NOT CARE. The super-elite can live anywhere. They love THEIR STATE. THEY DISDAIN ALL OTHERS. Population reduction by any means necessary. They will then have their utopia. If 1/2 to 3/4 left the state tomorrow, the elites would say mission accomplished. Population reduction is paramount. Think like an elitist. Those leaving are non-essential, wasting valuable resources. They secure their dominance over THEIR STATE FOREVER. Like Islam...once a territory conquered it’s never given up. Welcome to our life non-essentials. We are a nobody in the big picture if we do not submit to their agenda and become their work/tax slaves. You can visit, but there is a price to pay...move...price to pay...eat...price to pay...etc., etc. Always have been, always will be non-essential. Tax the non-essentials out of the state. Adjust accordingly. Abort your children. Take our mandated vaccines. The work/tax/service slaves can live in undesirable housing with undesirable medical care and further restriction on their voice freedom, gathering freedom, food freedom and movement freedom. Stay and pay to watch their propaganda, watch their distractions, become medicate by their pharmacists, drugged by their pushers, indoctrinated by their educators and media, watched by their technocrats/data collectors. The non-essentials can be harassed, beaten, raped, arrested, murdered at will and fight & die in their wars. We the elite are the legislators, the judges, the juries, the executioners and make all rules. We are nobodies with no power, no recourse. How easy is that?

See? 1984 in 2020 on STEROIDS. Oh well...er Orwell. WELCOME to your nightmare in real time. Dystopia for thee, satisfaction for me.

Adios Americans.


34 posted on 08/25/2020 6:11:39 PM PDT by PGalt (Past Peak Civilization?)
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I have made it a point to discuss politics every chance I get. I live in FL, in a purple area, and I’ll be darned if I let blue people come down here and think they will convert us peaceably.

When they come down here, they better know they are coming down to a red area, and why it is the way it is, and I am in their face about it.

I always ask why they came here, and taxes is always mentioned - how low they are - and I ALWAYS say, I hope you learned your lesson and remember not to vote Democrat and vote them up!


43 posted on 08/25/2020 7:56:33 PM PDT by I still care (The left's goal never was tolerance. It always was fascism.)
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CA flushed the toilet and it’s running toward other states.


44 posted on 08/25/2020 8:04:19 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (0bama's agenda�Divide and conquer seems to be working.?)
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AZ swinging blue.


51 posted on 08/25/2020 10:14:52 PM PDT by lurk
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> Freedoms that would get ya thrown in cages in California. No joke.

It’s easy to prove on just 2A alone.


54 posted on 08/26/2020 5:20:57 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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Like termites, finding new places to foul.


57 posted on 08/26/2020 7:04:54 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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