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Does “offered” early retirement mean you’re free to decline the “offer”?

Or is this like an offer you can’t refuse?

1 posted on 08/23/2020 2:43:28 PM PDT by rintintin
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To: rintintin

Since most jobs no longer offer retirement plans beyond 401Ks, what is the benefit of early retirement over you’re fired>? Semantics?


2 posted on 08/23/2020 2:49:08 PM PDT by pnut22
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I would probably except,,,
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Do they dangle a Tasty little cash incentive???


3 posted on 08/23/2020 2:51:00 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (TRUMP vs Biden-----------Any Question?)
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What are those folks going to do for health insurance?


4 posted on 08/23/2020 2:53:31 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000)
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“Does “offered” early retirement mean you’re free to decline the “offer”?”

Yes.

But then later they may simply be laid off. So it’s a gamble.


5 posted on 08/23/2020 2:54:14 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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“Or is this like an offer you can’t refuse”?

Yes. I have a friend who is in his 50’s. Works for Marriot Hotels in their Cyber Security dept. He was notified 2 weeks ago that he will be “offered” early retirement.


10 posted on 08/23/2020 2:58:16 PM PDT by ocrp1982
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12 years ago they didn’t call it early retirement, they basically gave me six months go away money.

And my health insurance expired at 5 pm that evening.

If I got the offer now, I’d ask for my pension to be bounced up to what it would be when I turn 65 and give them a hearty wave.


11 posted on 08/23/2020 2:59:17 PM PDT by cyclotic (The most dangerous people are the ones that feel the most helpless)
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Some people at my work are waiting for the “golden handshake” to be offered. They are eligible to retire now, but the handshake will make their retirement better.


17 posted on 08/23/2020 3:06:42 PM PDT by moviefan8
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As if the pension funds are not toast.


19 posted on 08/23/2020 3:09:45 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (When exposing a crime is treated as committing a crime, you are being ruled by criminals. -E Snowden)
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‘Early retirement’ packages vary greatly from company to company and position to position. I went through several rounds of this. They are looking to RIF people so maybe they bump up your years of advice to qualify you for a plan. Maybe they offer some money for education. Maybe they offer continuing medical benefits for six months or a year. Regardless they want you off the books and OTP*.

*: Off The Premises .... or.... Out To Pasture..... and these options are generally offered to those whom the company perceived as Old Tired People.


25 posted on 08/23/2020 3:31:54 PM PDT by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. Support Israel.d)
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Just carnage for senior workers...bring on the foreign workers!!!!


26 posted on 08/23/2020 3:33:32 PM PDT by fuente (Liberty resides in three boxes: the ballot box, the jury box and the cartridge box--Fredrick Douglas)
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One of my sons is a pilot for a MAJOR airline. They’ve offered early retirement to 14,500 pilots. It is VERY generous and 2,300 of them accepted it. Most were due to retire within the next 2-3 years anyway. They almost couldn’t afford to turn it down.


28 posted on 08/23/2020 3:34:47 PM PDT by WASCWatch
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I'm one. Will be officially gone in early October. If I had turned it down, there was no guaranty that I wouldn't be laid off later (6 months?) with no package. As it is, the package stinks, but it's better than nothing...

Feeler already out for something new and interesting...

32 posted on 08/23/2020 3:41:43 PM PDT by Dubh_Ghlase (Oh boy!)
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Early retirement can come with a benefit package (extended health care, company discounts) and usually also comes with a non-disclosure contract saying you won't turn around and work for the competition or disclose any proprietary knowledge.

I was laid off from Time Warner Cable in 2010. It happened in November and I had until the end of December to declare if I would accept their severance offer. The offer was to pay me one month's salary for every year I had been with them. I had worked there for 19 years. After taxes, it came out to over $56,000.

Among the smartest things I ever did was to wait until Christmas to send back my agreement, knowing all the HR folks would be on vacation and they wouldn't cut me a check until 2011, thus avoiding a heavy bite in IRS taxes. I wound up working only about seven months of 2011 whereas I had already worked 10 moths of 2010.

In my mind, I saw that $56,000 check and thought "nest egg". God told me, "no, you'll need this". I was laid off again in 2011 and spent almost an entire year out of work during the Obama Depression. I got back into employment with about $2000 of that nest egg left but God spent a lot of time that year hammering home some important points about our relationship I won't soon forget. When God hands you a wad of cash, He already knows what He's going to use it for and that's probably not what you were planning.

37 posted on 08/23/2020 4:00:09 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (Face masks are simply mouth diapers for liberals.)
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Interesting. I accepted an early retirement offer last month. Sweet deal and I was going to retire in the next year or two anyway.


43 posted on 08/23/2020 4:22:15 PM PDT by phoneman08 (qwiyrqweopigradfdzcm,.dadfjl,dz)
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The ObamaCare employer mandate plays a much bigger role in this than these companies would ever admit.


47 posted on 08/23/2020 4:43:49 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("We're human beings ... we're not f#%&ing animals." -- Dennis Rodman, 6/1/2020)
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I took a VERP a year ago due to the downturn in the oil industry. I got a year’s salary, medical for 5 years and my stock options vested.

The issue is Age Discrimination is real. I’ve applied for jobs I’m fully qualified for but getting an interview has been impossible.


50 posted on 08/23/2020 5:05:52 PM PDT by OC_Steve
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I need to offer myself early retirement.


52 posted on 08/23/2020 5:48:47 PM PDT by umgud
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To: rintintin; pnut22; WildHighlander57
For answers respectively (based on my company's offer) "offered" means that, they offered, if I don't accept I still keep my job, can't speak for other companies.

I wondered (when I heard an offer was being considered but no details were yet available) what they could offer since we only had a 401k plan, turns out it was 12 weeks of vacation plus 4 weeks for each 5 years of service beyond the first 5 years, so since I'm just now hitting 10 years I'm getting 16 weeks of PTO. Plus I already have a PTO bank of almost 60 days so that will be on top of the money.

Health Insurance? My company offered it to 63 and older (I'm 65) and they are offering to pay their portion of COBRA for up to 18 months so I'd only have to pay for my insurance that I pay now if I take COBRA (which I expect to do). Otherwise since I am 65 and my wife is on disability (severe Alzheimer's) so we both have Medicare part A I'd have to sign both of us up for part B, her for part D, then get either a supplemental plan or an advantage plan.

Didn't think I'd take the offer until I saw it. I was planning on retiring at 66 and 2 months (next March) for full SS but now I can go at the end of this year (2 months and a day early) and get 16 weeks of pay plus my unused PTO so I couldn't see a reason to not take it.

59 posted on 08/24/2020 7:48:14 AM PDT by Dad was my hero
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