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No California Shouldn’t Decriminalize Adult Sex With 14-Year-Olds
The Federalist ^ | AUGUST 12, 2020 | Chad Felix Greene

Posted on 08/18/2020 11:35:52 AM PDT by Mount Athos

LGBT activists have pushed reasonable notions of equality to its limits with obscene perversions. State Sen. Scott Wiener, D-San Francisco — the same lawmaker who co-sponsored a bill in 2017 to remove the felony penalty for knowingly exposing another person to HIV — has introduced a bill, Senate Bill 145 to give judges more flexibility in sentencing gay men who abuse minors.

Under current law — which Wiener, who is gay, describes as “horrific homophobia” — a straight 24-year-old male who has sex with a 15-year-old girl can avoid being put on the sex-offender list if the judge feels the situation does not deserve it, but a gay man in the same scenario with a similar-aged boy would not be given the same option.

Wiener’s argument is one of evolving social standards. In 2015, the California Supreme Court upheld the long-standing separation of vaginal sex from other forms of sex-based on the misguided idea that if pregnancy occurred, placing the father on the sex-offender list could ruin his chances of providing for his family. The extreme of the scenario would be an 18-year-old man with a 17-year-old girlfriend.

Wiener’s bill, however, is not so straightforward. He argues all forms of sex should be treated equally under the law.

The Law Will Protect Exploitation of Minors Moreover, while there is room for flexibility in a ruling in which a boy turns 18 while his girlfriend is still 17 and her father presses charges, the bill defines the age minimum at 14. Recognizing that minors cannot legally consent to sex, Wiener argues that if a minor age 14 to 17 voluntarily has sex with an adult who is less than 10 years older, the judge should decide based on the individual facts of the case whether the adult should be placed on the sex-offender registry. Data provided by Wiener’s office states, “[A]t least 2,400 people on the [CA] sex-offender registry, and potentially hundreds more, have been convicted of non-vaginal sex with a minor age 14 or older.”

The argument on its own sounds like a simple proposal for equal treatment under the law. As Los Angeles Deputy District Attorney Bradley McCartt told state lawmakers, “Remember, it’s not the punishment for the crime. It’s a public safety issue that has to do with crime-solving and keeping track of predators.”

But it is the mindset behind the age issue that is most concerning. “We need to stop criminalizing teenage sex,” Wiener said. “At a minimum, we should not be forcing these kids onto the sex-offender registry and ruining their lives.”

The problem is that it isn’t about teenagers having sex. It’s about adults exploiting minors sexually and being legally protected in doing so. What possible justification would there be for a 24-year-old to have sex with a 15-year-old of either sex? The rational answer, of course, is there is none. Rather than addressing this reasonable concern, however, left-wing and LGBT sites decided opposition was homophobic and hateful.

Left-Wing Media Smears Conservative Detractors Mother Jones, for example, titled an article, “A California State Senator Introduced a Bill Pushing LGBTQ Equality — and a QAnon Mob Came for Him.” The article begins by arguing, “Scott Wiener is used to being targeted for his legislation. The California State Senator represents San Francisco, and has long championed the kind of progressive reforms that have attracted the ire of right-wing culture warriors and their online trolling.”

But what is progressive about decriminalizing the intentional exposure of HIV to innocent victims and now pushing legislation to reduce the crime of sexually abusing 14-year-olds?

LGBTQ Nation also jumped on the victim story with an article titled, “Rightwing launches disgusting attack on ‘pedophile’ gay lawmaker over equality legislation.” Making it sound as though the only opposition boils down to anti-LGBT hate from right-wing extremists, the article says, “A gay lawmaker in California has been targeted by rightwing media as part of what they believe is a pedophile conspiracy because he introduced a bill to treat LGBTQ sex offenders the same as straight sex offenders.”

As has become far too common, opposing perceived right-wing attacks is more important than critically addressing dangerous legislation.

When It Comes to Sex, We Can’t Treat Minors Like Adults This all comes down to the LGBT fixation on treating minors as adults capable of adult decision-making. Yet there is simply no reason for someone between the ages of 14 and 16 to be in a relationship with an adult. This should be non-negotiable, regardless of the sexes involved.

The only gray area involves teenagers on the edge of lawful adulthood who might cross over just enough to fall into legal issues. For example, McCartt provided a story of a 17-year-old girl whose mother did not want her dating a girl and pressed charges against the daughter’s 18-year-old girlfriend.

Providing reasonable legal accommodation to this very specific and narrow experience should not be an open invitation for adults to exploit young teenagers by engaging in sex with them. Unfortunately, Wiener and other California lawmakers, who have had no formal pushback on this legislation so far, are more interested in pursuing grand social ideals rather than writing simple, rational law. Left-wing media is all too happy to use labels of “hate” and “conspiracy theories” to dismiss legitimate concerns.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: bradleymccartt; calif; california; genderdysphoria; homosexualagenda; losangeles; normalizepedophilia; whoopigoldberg
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1 posted on 08/18/2020 11:35:52 AM PDT by Mount Athos
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To: Mount Athos

Normalizing pedophilia.

We all knew it was coming.


2 posted on 08/18/2020 11:38:57 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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To: Mount Athos

Homosexuals are upset about not legally being able to sodomize underage boys. This is where “love is love” leads


3 posted on 08/18/2020 11:39:52 AM PDT by mrmeyer (You can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him. Robert Heinlein)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

4 posted on 08/18/2020 11:42:55 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Mount Athos

NAMBLA motto: Sex before eight, or it’s too late.

HOMOSEXUAL, because there’s nothing GAY about it.


5 posted on 08/18/2020 11:43:09 AM PDT by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: Mount Athos
No California Shouldn’t Decriminalize Adult Sex With 14-Year-Olds

California shouldn't let hundreds of thousands of druggies sleep, shoot up, defecate, and panhandle on the streets of its cities and suburbs.

California shouldn't replace its high-tech energy infrastructure with bogus green power nonsense that can't work. Maybe the "science" says it can, but the "thermodynamics" says it can't.

California shouldn't let years of dead vegetation build up around and under its power lines.

There are all kinds of things that California shouldn't do, but that doesn't stop California from doing them, while at the same time claiming to be smarter than the people who advise them not to.

6 posted on 08/18/2020 11:44:48 AM PDT by Steely Tom ([Seth Rich] == [the Democrats' John Dean])
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To: Mount Athos

The demoncraps want to decriminalize this before adam schitt ends up going to jail.


7 posted on 08/18/2020 11:51:02 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (They are openly stating that they intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live.)
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To: Steely Tom

Kruger-Dunning Effect. Seriously. All Progressives have it.


8 posted on 08/18/2020 11:51:53 AM PDT by Seruzawa (TANSTAAFL!)
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To: Mount Athos

Another Democrat sexual pervert with the name Weiner’’.


9 posted on 08/18/2020 11:52:37 AM PDT by jmacusa (If we're all equal how is diversity our strength?)
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To: Mount Athos

The Sexual deviante predators want legal access to your children.....the enemy of mens souls roams about in these people seeking whom they may devour.


10 posted on 08/18/2020 11:54:25 AM PDT by caww ( Trump - the most pro-life president in History !)
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To: Mount Athos

Can the leftists crawl down any lower? Don’t answer that.

Of course they can.


11 posted on 08/18/2020 11:55:07 AM PDT by frank ballenger (End vote fraud,harvesting,non-citizen voting & leftist media news censorship or we are finished.)
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To: Mount Athos

During my tenure as a moderator for Facebook, last summer a new word was being trial-ballooned on social media:

PEDOPHOBE.


12 posted on 08/18/2020 11:55:50 AM PDT by Old Sarge (We are seeing the birth of the Socialist Putsch)
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To: mrmeyer
This is where “love is love” leads.

Exactly.

13 posted on 08/18/2020 11:56:26 AM PDT by Obadiah
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To: Mount Athos

“can avoid being put on the sex-offender list if the judge feels the situation does not deserve it”
“If the judge feels”
That’s the issue, feels shouldn’t be involved at all.
Laws don’t need to be changed to allow pedophilia, laws need to be enforced.


14 posted on 08/18/2020 11:57:14 AM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

So why are they so upset with Epstein then?


15 posted on 08/18/2020 11:58:21 AM PDT by funfan
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To: ClearCase_guy
Pervert predator Senator Scott Wiener..(Left)


16 posted on 08/18/2020 11:59:45 AM PDT by caww ( Trump - the most pro-life president in History !)
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To: Mount Athos

In San Francisco? The meteor needs to hit there


17 posted on 08/18/2020 12:01:31 PM PDT by BigEdLB (BigedLB, Russian BOT, At your service)
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To: JimRed
Senator Scott Wiener on attending Up-Your-Alley fair!


18 posted on 08/18/2020 12:04:50 PM PDT by caww ( Trump - the most pro-life president in History !)
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To: Steely Tom

As stated..”it isn’t about teenagers having sex. It’s about adults exploiting minors sexually and being legally protected in doing so.

What possible justification would there be for a 24-year-old to have sex with a 15-year-old of either sex? The rational answer, of course, is there is none.


19 posted on 08/18/2020 12:07:57 PM PDT by caww ( Trump - the most pro-life president in History !)
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To: jmacusa
It truly breaks my heart when these LGBT gain official positions in Government and elsewhere. The scourge they leave on society will surely endanger our children as surely as a knife in their backs. Our national leaders do not understand nor do they care to that if you want to destroy a nation go after their children. It's heartwretching to see society bend to these people and that willingly!

I fear God will not tolerate nor show mercy to us much longer. Sodom and Gomorrah we have become.

20 posted on 08/18/2020 12:15:53 PM PDT by caww ( Trump - the most pro-life president in History !)
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