Anyone who's worked with Stahn-ford people know that they ain't that great, just usually rich kids...and a few smarty pants
Posted on 08/18/2020 8:21:05 AM PDT by george76
Stanford University will remove admissions test requirements for the upcoming school year in response to COVID-19...
Most notably, Stanford Medicine, one of the top medical schools in the country, will not require the MCAT.
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Stanford’s School of Medicine will not require students to take the Medical College Admission Test (MCAT), the standardized test for medical degree candidates. Stanford Medicine said that applications can be submitted without the MCAT through September 30, 2020 “in fairness to all applicants.”
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Stanford's physics department will not have to submit scores for the Graduate Record Examinations (GRE) or the GRE subject test in physics.
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The Stanford College Republicans said in a statement to Campus Reform that it disagrees with the move.
"The move by Stanford's medical school to drop the MCAT is a mistake. America needs her future doctors to be the most knowledgeable and well trained in the world. Out of Stanford medical school come many of the doctors and researchers on the front lines of working to combat the China Virus," the group said. "It'd be a shame if unqualified applicants come to Stanford as a result of this policy and we suffer the consequences in the coming decades."
National Association of Scholars Communications Coordinator Chance Layton also expressed concern regarding Stanford’s move.
Layton explained that even during the COVID-19 pandemic, there still needs to be a baseline standard for admission.
“All college programs should have some baseline for a standardized assessment of applicants. The GRE and MCAT provide that
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Layton said that this mentality “would erode the quality of higher education.”
Though other indicators of intellect and potential success exist, “none are as easily quantifiable as standardized test scores.”
(Excerpt) Read more at campusreform.org ...
As my buddy the doctor used to say, you know what you call a medical school graduate with a c average?
Good point-what else does it say when after decades of “equality” measures, standards still continue to be lowered because some groups in general continue to be unable to meet them? Even after they’ve been repeatedly lowered? Unfortunately thus lowering standards for everyone, and then the mediocre in all groups pass through the net. No one even needs to try very hard anymore to pass, forget standing out from the pack (of course, being a “team player” and making individualism a dirty word is killing initiative too).
Dear God - I know this is the UK but it is probably a problem here in the US.
Soon, if this trend continues, our hospitals will be places of horror akin to the “hospitals” that were in the old USSR.
God help us!
This is nuts.
The gate for "fairness to all applicants" was undergraduate admissions.
If after four years the college student still needs "fairness" to get to the next level, they don't belong there.
-PJ
Stanford, and other places, are finding it is lucrative to bring students onboard for high prices due to the prestige. They really don’t care if they drop out - “they weren’t ready” is all they have to claim. They still got the money students had to commit to...
Anyone who's worked with Stahn-ford people know that they ain't that great, just usually rich kids...and a few smarty pants
I think some medical schools have a simple pass/fail grading system.
Oh, this is excellent. Nothing like putting people in a program (no doubt on scholarships based on “diversity”) where they will fail or be the worst of a debased class of students.
“I think some medical schools have a simple pass/fail grading system.”
Yes, they do, and the pass has a low standard.
“by the time you get into medical school you’ve earned a ton of As in classes “
Not true. They can earn a C in a bachelors degree program and still pass and still be accepted into medical school. The Association of American Medical Colleges states they believe a 3.7 is average for entry into med school. I’ve read stories of a C average getting into med schools.
That is my understanding as well. That might not have been a problem years ago for the top medical schools. The University of Chicago accepted about 150 students from 4000 applicants. The school could have filled the entire class with students with Ph.D’s in chemistry, or biology, or physics! A case for diversity could be made-admit students who will be good medicl doctors and can do well in a rigorous academic environment.
Stanford - we’re just basing it off your melanin quotient now.
stanford, being the race obssessed morons, just care about the externals and feelings
wonderful
i dont see this impacting medical care in america in any negative way
look for iatrogenic deaths to sharply rise
a phd or doctorate almost always requires a thesis work that has to be approved by a panel of professors.
Chintz Clintoon got a degree in less than 3 yrs with barely stepping on campus...how good could a Stanford degree be if it allows that....
In medical schools the students are typically the top 1-5 % or so of college students from rigorous scientific college majors. They are thoroughly screened and weeded out prior to entering medical school. Once in it is assumed barring unforseen circumstances you will graduate,and most classes are pass/fail. At some point trying to stratify the top stratus ceases to be productive. There are national standardized exams given throughout med school that are used to prove competence and scores are used for the most competitive residencies as well
“a phd or doctorate almost always requires a thesis work that has to be approved by a panel of professors.”
Read any? I’ve read countless and most are stupifying as to how they passed the boards.
There are very few programs in the US as hard to get into as medical school. Ask all those who have been rejected. The PhD landscape is peppered with people who tried to get into medical school, and didn't. I know what I'm talking about, but would be very, very happy to debate this point. Also remember that you have to take STEM-type classes to get into medical school. You don't have to be a STEM major, but you have to have a specific educational background that most liberal arts majors don't. In that context, the 3.7 average GPA means even more.
“that has to be approved by a panel of professors.”
You mean those ‘professors’ who applied and didn’t get into medical school? There are a ton of them.
Organic Chemistry was class that determined if you got into Med school. Without an A you had to apply to a school in South America
Stanford Medical School Class of 2024...of questionable qualifications.
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