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Stanford scraps admission test requirement for medical students
Campus Reform ^ | Aug 17, 2020 | Ben Zeisloft

Posted on 08/18/2020 8:21:05 AM PDT by george76

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To: CodeToad

As my buddy the doctor used to say, you know what you call a medical school graduate with a c average?


41 posted on 08/18/2020 9:50:45 AM PDT by suthener
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To: dsrtsage

Good point-what else does it say when after decades of “equality” measures, standards still continue to be lowered because some groups in general continue to be unable to meet them? Even after they’ve been repeatedly lowered? Unfortunately thus lowering standards for everyone, and then the mediocre in all groups pass through the net. No one even needs to try very hard anymore to pass, forget standing out from the pack (of course, being a “team player” and making individualism a dirty word is killing initiative too).


42 posted on 08/18/2020 10:01:14 AM PDT by mrsmel (I wonÂ’t be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: spokeshave

Dear God - I know this is the UK but it is probably a problem here in the US.

Soon, if this trend continues, our hospitals will be places of horror akin to the “hospitals” that were in the old USSR.

God help us!


43 posted on 08/18/2020 10:04:16 AM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: george76
“in fairness to all applicants.”

This is nuts.

The gate for "fairness to all applicants" was undergraduate admissions.

If after four years the college student still needs "fairness" to get to the next level, they don't belong there.

-PJ

44 posted on 08/18/2020 10:11:12 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (Freedom of the press is the People's right to publish, not CNN's right to the 1st question.)
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To: george76

Stanford, and other places, are finding it is lucrative to bring students onboard for high prices due to the prestige. They really don’t care if they drop out - “they weren’t ready” is all they have to claim. They still got the money students had to commit to...


45 posted on 08/18/2020 10:18:31 AM PDT by jettester (I got paid to break 'em - not fly 'em)
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To: george76
Future Stanford Doc!

Anyone who's worked with Stahn-ford people know that they ain't that great, just usually rich kids...and a few smarty pants

46 posted on 08/18/2020 10:27:29 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: CodeToad

I think some medical schools have a simple pass/fail grading system.


47 posted on 08/18/2020 10:31:36 AM PDT by Maine Mariner
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To: george76

Oh, this is excellent. Nothing like putting people in a program (no doubt on scholarships based on “diversity”) where they will fail or be the worst of a debased class of students.


48 posted on 08/18/2020 10:37:02 AM PDT by wildbill (The older I get, the less 'life in prison" means to me)
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To: Maine Mariner

“I think some medical schools have a simple pass/fail grading system.”

Yes, they do, and the pass has a low standard.


49 posted on 08/18/2020 10:46:27 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
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To: neverevergiveup

“by the time you get into medical school you’ve earned a ton of As in classes “

Not true. They can earn a C in a bachelors degree program and still pass and still be accepted into medical school. The Association of American Medical Colleges states they believe a 3.7 is average for entry into med school. I’ve read stories of a C average getting into med schools.


50 posted on 08/18/2020 10:49:31 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
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To: CodeToad

That is my understanding as well. That might not have been a problem years ago for the top medical schools. The University of Chicago accepted about 150 students from 4000 applicants. The school could have filled the entire class with students with Ph.D’s in chemistry, or biology, or physics! A case for diversity could be made-admit students who will be good medicl doctors and can do well in a rigorous academic environment.


51 posted on 08/18/2020 11:46:57 AM PDT by Maine Mariner
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To: george76

Stanford - we’re just basing it off your melanin quotient now.

stanford, being the race obssessed morons, just care about the externals and feelings

wonderful

i dont see this impacting medical care in america in any negative way

look for iatrogenic deaths to sharply rise


52 posted on 08/18/2020 11:47:38 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: CodeToad

a phd or doctorate almost always requires a thesis work that has to be approved by a panel of professors.


53 posted on 08/18/2020 11:49:18 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: george76

Chintz Clintoon got a degree in less than 3 yrs with barely stepping on campus...how good could a Stanford degree be if it allows that....


54 posted on 08/18/2020 11:51:48 AM PDT by cherry
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To: CodeToad

In medical schools the students are typically the top 1-5 % or so of college students from rigorous scientific college majors. They are thoroughly screened and weeded out prior to entering medical school. Once in it is assumed barring unforseen circumstances you will graduate,and most classes are pass/fail. At some point trying to stratify the top stratus ceases to be productive. There are national standardized exams given throughout med school that are used to prove competence and scores are used for the most competitive residencies as well


55 posted on 08/18/2020 12:00:10 PM PDT by Mom MD
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To: Secret Agent Man

“a phd or doctorate almost always requires a thesis work that has to be approved by a panel of professors.”

Read any? I’ve read countless and most are stupifying as to how they passed the boards.


56 posted on 08/18/2020 12:22:52 PM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
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To: CodeToad
If you are a minority you might. Otherwise no.

There are very few programs in the US as hard to get into as medical school. Ask all those who have been rejected. The PhD landscape is peppered with people who tried to get into medical school, and didn't. I know what I'm talking about, but would be very, very happy to debate this point. Also remember that you have to take STEM-type classes to get into medical school. You don't have to be a STEM major, but you have to have a specific educational background that most liberal arts majors don't. In that context, the 3.7 average GPA means even more.

57 posted on 08/18/2020 12:58:02 PM PDT by neverevergiveup
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“that has to be approved by a panel of professors.”

You mean those ‘professors’ who applied and didn’t get into medical school? There are a ton of them.


58 posted on 08/18/2020 1:00:14 PM PDT by neverevergiveup
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To: neverevergiveup
you've earned a ton of As in classes - including chemistry/organic chemistry/P-chem,

Organic Chemistry was class that determined if you got into Med school. Without an A you had to apply to a school in South America

59 posted on 08/18/2020 2:30:10 PM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is EVIL and needs to be eradicated)
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To: george76

Stanford Medical School Class of 2024...of questionable qualifications.


60 posted on 08/18/2020 4:18:24 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Rats Just Can't Get Over The Fact That They Lost A Rigged Election!)
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