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Here comes the Army's first laser battalion
Task and Purpose ^ | 6 August, 2020 | Jared Keller

Posted on 08/17/2020 7:13:06 PM PDT by marktwain

The Defense Department expects to stand up its first battalion of Stryker vehicles outfitted with high-powered laser weapons by some time next year, Army officials say.

“Expect to have the first battalion fielded in 2021 with four battalions by 2023,” U.S. Army Space and Missile Defense Command chief Lt. Gen. Dan Karbler told the audience at the virtual Space Missile Defense symposium on Tuesday 

The so-called "laser battalion," as Defense One described it, would eventually deploy the new 50 kw Directed Energy-Maneuver Short-Range Air Defense (DE-MSHORAD) Stryker that the Army is working to field by 2022, a ten-fold power increase over the 5 kw-class system that artillery soldiers have been testing in Germany since early 2018.

Artist’s conception from Northrop Grumman of a directed energy prototype solution on a U.S. Army Stryker combat vehicle.

Defense contractors Northrop Grumman and Raytheon are currently competing to manufacture the new laser system, with plans for a "shoot off" between the two prototypes at Fort Sill in Oklahoma some time in May 2021, according to Breaking Defense.

A platoon of four laser Strykers prototypes will end up in the hands of an actual combat unit some time in 2022, according to Breaking Defense, with the laser system integrated into the vehicles' existing hardware as soon as this December.


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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: army; banglist; laser; warfare
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To: marktwain

21 posted on 08/17/2020 7:31:08 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: biggerten

I have heard one method is ignition of a gas. After each shot the gas is replaced.


22 posted on 08/17/2020 7:31:27 PM PDT by Dennis M.
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To: Pikachu_Dad

I’m thinking that the big use of these are going to be clearing out UAVs.


23 posted on 08/17/2020 7:31:37 PM PDT by glorgau
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To: Blood of Tyrants
I don’t know about that. That would mean that the laser beam is transferring heat to the air and not to the target.

Correct.

It is hard to be 100% perfect with anything.

With this sort of power, just a tiny leakage/variation has effects.

A big problem has been to prevent "blooming" because of heading the air, and scintillation effects.

I was mildly associated with that work in the late 1980's.

It might not be near as depicted in the artiste's scene; but there is likely some effect.

Air quality and composition can vary a significant amount, especially with water vapor and particulates ( as noted previously).

24 posted on 08/17/2020 7:32:14 PM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: marktwain

Do they have a special unit of sharks with laser beam helmets?


25 posted on 08/17/2020 7:33:24 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: marktwain

Agreed. The atmosphere will have a great deal to do with it.


26 posted on 08/17/2020 7:34:40 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Where do you find the word "except" in the 2nd Amendment?)
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To: marktwain
The biggest problem in space is: How do you dump the waste heat?

If you are just taking a small number of shots, you use a heat sink, and dissipate over time.

27 posted on 08/17/2020 7:36:59 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (A Leftist can't enjoy life unless they are controlling, hurting, or destroying others)
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To: biggerten

Dilithium crystals


28 posted on 08/17/2020 7:37:22 PM PDT by dp0622 (I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO ABOUT THE COVID GODFATHER I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO. YOU CAN ACT LIKE A MAN!)
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To: marktwain
We could use that battalion in Portland, OR to go up against the antifa scum with their green lasers. Wouldn't that be sweet?

"Take THAT, antifa scum!"


29 posted on 08/17/2020 7:38:53 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom ("And oft conducted by historic truth, We tread the long extent of backward time.")
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To: marktwain

“DE-MSHORAD”

That rolls right off the tongue. They need a new person in charge of naming weapons systems.

“Hey, Sarge, the DE-MSHORAD is busted again.”

Yeah, that works.


30 posted on 08/17/2020 7:40:16 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom ("And oft conducted by historic truth, We tread the long extent of backward time.")
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To: Dennis M.; All
I have heard one method is ignition of a gas. After each shot the gas is replaced.

As I recall, we used that with the Air Borne Laser (ABL). It was able to shoot down a missile tens or hundreds of miles away at the edge of space... I think, it used an Iodine and Oxygen laser.

I supported that program with some TDY people from my team, as I recall. Maybe they were a backup team. It has been a decade or more...

31 posted on 08/17/2020 7:41:45 PM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Agreed. The atmosphere will have a great deal to do with it.

That's where my old outfit came in.

32 posted on 08/17/2020 7:43:45 PM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: SauronOfMordor
If you are just taking a small number of shots, you use a heat sink, and dissipate over time.

Significant heat sinks need a lot of mass. Mass is hard to come by, in space.

Yes, dissipation is the solution. In space, it requires radiation of the heat.

I am sure you realize... tradeoffs!

33 posted on 08/17/2020 7:46:00 PM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: glorgau

A far more important use is shooting down hypersonic missiles for which we have no defense at present.


34 posted on 08/17/2020 7:48:37 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom ("And oft conducted by historic truth, We tread the long extent of backward time.")
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To: marktwain; Blood of Tyrants
Here's the solution. A second 100 femtosecond laser punching a hole through clouds just before you shoot the big guy.

Scientists want to bore holes through clouds using lasers from satellites

35 posted on 08/17/2020 7:51:34 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom ("And oft conducted by historic truth, We tread the long extent of backward time.")
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To: marktwain

I remember a leaked photograph of some kind of laser-armed vehicle back in the 1970s.


36 posted on 08/17/2020 7:55:28 PM PDT by PLMerite ("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too." - Robert Conquest)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
Here's the solution. A second 100 femtosecond laser punching a hole through clouds just before you shoot the big guy.

Can't say more. Pretty sure I have not revealed anything classified, so far.

37 posted on 08/17/2020 7:59:06 PM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: marktwain

my dod worked on one in the mid seventies.


38 posted on 08/17/2020 8:01:53 PM PDT by shineon
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To: marktwain

This would be great to use on the “peaceful protesters” using lasers on cops. Personally, I want a phased plasma rifle in the 40 watt range.


39 posted on 08/17/2020 8:02:37 PM PDT by BipolarBob (The cost of abortion is a human sacrifice.)
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To: marktwain

Sounds like the “Star Wars” missile defense system that Reagan proposed and “everyone” (Democrat stooges in the press, or “the press”) called him crazy. I think they should be called “Ronnie Ray Guns” in memory of one of our greatest presidents.


40 posted on 08/17/2020 8:03:40 PM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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